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I'm in the same boat, and I'm making my way through a sizable portion of humble pie right now. He's been indispensable for the last couple of months and has formed an excellent partnership with Kenny. As has been said, we get as many points for beating Hamilton as we get for beating Them, and without him we simply would not win the league this season, especially with Them looking to make a signing or two in January.

That's a man who won us two league titles you're talking about there.

Couldn't agree more - The Edinburgh Ned is quite simply an embarassment to the club. NA on the other hand is a true professional, a great ambassador and, most importantly, a good keeper to boot.

Two questions: 1. What do you do for a living; and 2. Where do you buy yer watches?! Oh, and ... 3. Can you gies a tap?

I put Thomson, but I wouldn't take it off Weir if he is still about. I think he should be , I just don't think he will be. But why no Davis choice?

I agree about him being a great player - he's too good to have been ignored all season for something not to have gone on. Whenever I saw Dailly or McCullouch (!!) in front of the back four I was always mighty annoyed, just lucky it didn't matter ultimately.

Cartman, this is what I mean. We have a bear here who beleives that by not doing our nuts about what Ally is doing here, we are somehow not standing up for "what Rangers stands for". This is an example of the misguided amongst us confusing traditions with bigotry. And yes, i bet he hasnt been to church since Primary 7, although I promise you this will be denied. Sounds like he hasn't been to Ibrox for a while either, the atmos has been shite since about 1990. Nothing to do with any traditions, and everything to do with removing the terracing. Exactly. "Liberal Rangers fans" - when did Rush Limbaugh start posting on Rangersmedia? It's not because of us liberals you can't sing your bilious wee ditties (although why you don't just join in with the rest of the circus acts belting out the famine song right now, I don't know), it's because society has moved on. Time for you and your Jurassic brethren to do the same!

The fact I actually took them and posted them might suggest something though... Or maybe I somehow acquired this collection of Rangers fan videos from a real bluenose, whom I have dispatched and buried in a secret location in a shallow grave, and infiltrating this forum is only the first step to blah blah.... Why a thread has to be side-tracked by this childish shite is beyond me - I thought RM was better than this Yawn, how boring that someone who posts something vaguely humourous and not of the "everybody's-against-us-write-to-your-local-MP" type of schtick gets the tired, hoary old "tim-poster" treatment. If I was a Celtic fan sad enough (and you'd have to be really, really sad) to come on here trying to provoke one of us into silliness why would I waste my time on a subject so ineffectual? I would be trying to goad people into making death threats against Mhanks or Rhepublicans or whatever, like that Sun journo did on that Islamic fundamentalist website last month. Anyway, Bobby Tait's dodgy timepieces spring to mind. And Mike "The Baptist" McCurry's performance against Dundee United had to be seen to be believed. This season, though we have been on the end of some brutal shaftings from the officials, and The Other Lot have been given some right gifts. But I take the view that any mistakes made are down to incompetence rather than deliberate malfeasance, myself.

Old flatmate of mine is a Leicester fan, said he at least tried to play football, but was far too lightweight, and the fans there called him sicknote for obvious reasons. He's as good as Flood, i.e. peesh.

The red socks got me thinking - will we be playing all in blue in Europe this year? That did my head right in!!!

Aye, or maybe just our UVF/UDA supporting scumbags.

Romanes eunt domus? "People called Romanes they go the house"?

My thoughts exactly...If the Rangers support consisted 100% of Bang drummin angry Orangemen then that really would be a sad day in the history of Rangers. The more diverse and different the fans become the better...that way we will truly become a football club that is open and supportive of all types of people from all backgrounds. Well, yes and no, What I really meant was we should be a support that welcomes the drum-banging orangemen as much as it welcomes you or I.

I've seen a lot of pish on here but that takes the biscuit. So Rangers FC were involved in the defence of Derry...well colour me purple and call me a sausage....you learn something everyday! I know we have had some good defenders at the club over the years...but I didn't know they were THAT good! "Cuellar... man those cannons...the fenians are attacking the south wall" You might not care about such things but many of us do. To celebrate the heroes of the seige of Londonderry is a great thing. Celebrating the people who refused to give in to tyranny whatever the cost to them personally? Who won a victory that was a milestone on the road the denocracy? Of course it has nothing drectly to do with football, but it was vital to the freedoms we cherish. If we did not live in such a bigotted society the heroes of Londonderry, the Apprentice Boys and the rest, would be talked about in the same way as The Alamo, William Wallace, and the brave few of the Battle of Britain. As it is those of us who appreciate and celebrate their sacrifices, face not only criticism from our enemies, who prefer tyranny to freedom, but from our own, with weasel words like 'it's nothing to do with football'. Well answer me this sherlock. Wtf has YNWA or FOA got to do with football? Watson, why do you expect your conduct to be judged against that of Celtic fans? Why the constant need on this board to refer back to them? This thread seems unnecessarily long - to some, Rangers means something religious, unionist etc (of which Manticore has been the most eloquent defender I think), to others, like me, it is all about the football. Both sides of the debate have engaged in some pretty low blows and poor standards, IMHO, when in fact both are compatible, are they not? Different meanings to different folk. Personally I'm not moved by the talk of Protestantism and Unionism, being a slight Scottish nationalist, an atheist and an unreconstructed lefty. (Tho from a historical and constitutional point of view, as Manti alludes to, I love the story of the defence of Londonderry and its wider significance) But if others see it differently, I'm not really bothered. Good for them to have passions. As long as they don't cross the line to bigotry and getting the club fines etc. i would say, tat given they are ourmain rivals, the, we are th yardstuck. A comparison is fair, no> A comparison may be fair, but what I mean is just because they sing it means nothing. It's no answer to someone who says "the songs we sing have nothing to do with football and so I don't join in" to turn around and say "but they do it over there."

I would add that the title of this post suggests some kind of problem - to me, it's not like that. I don't want to be part of some ideological mass-movement where we all clutch our wee blue books or whatever and think the same. A divided support - good! That works - with a little tolerance on all sides! What was it my gran used to say? "It would be a gey dull world if we were aw the same!"