Not being a business guru, can someone more commercially experienced tell me how common is it that a company's own shareholders lends money to said company and secures it against assets. Really seems to the Lehman like yet another corporate gangbang. On another note, when Whyte was in office this place in general blamed everything on Murray and followed Whyte blindly into near oblivion. Then came Green who despite spouting endless obvious lies was supported to the hilt, with Whyte being the fall guy. Enter Wallace, the shit starts flying, again, and guess who goes under the bus? The saviour himself, Green. There is a pattern here which might be sheer coincidence but should be noted folks. The alarm bells start ringing in my ears the minute these guys get caught out spinning blatant lies. I get the feeling they think we are gullible simpletons. They might be right.