drunkenfsi

fair point sir .... ... but I like to think I beat the system so that I can give it directly to my club so that the b@stards that said that they didn't need our club get as little of my money as possible. Don't misunderstand .... I officially pay my way for what I watch and use proxy servers to watch matches via the Rangers TV site so that our club gets the money - actually ends up costing me more over the course of the year but at least it goes to the club ... my option 3 is something I know of but have no interest in as I do not watch any match that doesn't involve Rangers ... posted as more of an aid for fellow bears that may have an interest .

so you have BT BB and phoneline with a Sky TV service and have got BT sports activated on your sky card for free. Fair play to you sir , but obviously as you will know from your monthly bill it not cheap to have it that way. I only posted the basic variations but if your granny has BT BB and you transfer your sky tv to her house (just on paper) you can add BT sports to you sky card for free aswell ... or you can get together with your mates and .............

3 ways .. 1. switch to BT broadband infinity and get it free but you then have an inferior overall tv service 2. Add it to your Sky card via BT and pay £12 for SD or £15 for HD 3. Do some research on the net and you will find out about a box of dream that you connect to your BB router. (rearrange the words between "a" and "that" and remove one of the words and join together then search on google - don't want to post anything too exact that may cause the forum any problems) 4. Use a proxy server and watch the games via the official site so your money goes to the club! personal opinion - go for 4! but failing that use 3! For the 2p that the bastards are giving us in TV rights I'm damned if I'm giving my money to the c#nts so that they can give it to the b@stards that said they don't need/want us! Would gladly pay £20 a month to BT if they did a deal with solely Rangers but the c#nts chose to support the Scottish Premier Footbal Liewell so they can go take a royal fuck to themselves ...

semis of the CL ??? needing Marseile to lose 3-0 and ourselves win 5-0 if I remember correctly is not reaching the semi-finals of the CL! Lloyds never shat it over the BTC it was the other 700m pounds that MIH owed Lloyds that was the problem!

not hindsight sir ... OP said Ally is only person we can trust 100% ... I have given 2 examples of his judgment being flawed! If your mate said to you X person is the dogs bollocks and then 2 weeks later X person screwed you over would you not ask questions of your mate? And if he then turned round and said X person is a c#nt 3 weeks later would you trust his judgement on anyone else in the future? Simplistic way of putting my point across but swaying with the wind is not something anyone of us should be putting our faith in! I didn't see through CW .. I do not claim to have but I didn't have a day to day working relationship with him - posters on here were abused for questioning CW because they could - Ally working with him couldn't! Further example - the summer that CW took over we heard not one peep of disgruntlement from Ally - in the Traynor interview he said I didn't get the players I wanted or the money I was promised - why was this not said at the time? Why did Ally not come out in summer 2011 and say this guy promised me this and he is not delivering? 3/4 million pounds a year is why not - imo!

ally on cw - 3/2/12 - 11 days before admin - "I've got a fantastic, healthy relationship with Craig and have done since he came to the club. Like all healthy, working relationships, we don't agree on everything. I believe if we did it would be unhealthy, but we never fall out and we don't have a problem." http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/134490.html ally after initial cw revelations in October 2011 - "He's been great, absolutely smashing," said McCoist, the Rangers manager, of Whyte. "I spoke to the owner this morning as I always do and we had a good chat. We've got a good working relationship." http://www.theguardian.com/football/2011/oct/22/rangers-craig-whyte-administration That is how much we can trust Ally's judgement on what goes on at the club! If anyone can show me one single quote from Ally - pre-admin in which he gives even an inkling of anything being wrong I would stand corrected. Exactly the same with Charles Green - there is not a single quote or comment from Ally against Green UNTIL Green questioned the quality of team and results towards the end of last season. Up until then it was exactly the same - smashing relationship , talk everyday , most important relationship at a club etc etc.

Bill Miller and Mr NG ..... and Sir Duped is surely due an interview sometime soon

tbh I could handle the poor results that may be coming our way but , possibly unfairly , I hold Ally partly responsible for the state we find ourselves in. As they say "if my auntie had baws ..." but I often think IF Ally had just managed to get us past Malmo and atleast into the Europa League admin and everything that happened thereafter might not have happened. All if's but's and maybes but the amount of potential income that we have lost out on through the early exits from cup competitions under Ally is approaching £30m (obviously including potential CL groupstage money in this calculation) and I find that to be unacceptable! Mind you I also think if that twat Cristian Daily had booted the flucking ball up the park against Kaunas instead of fannying about we could have got rid of the Lloyds debt and been masters of our own fate. Or if the 9IAR team had not royally fucked our co-efficient we might have had more success under DA in Europe and not had to play the likes of Parma in qualifiers which would have lead to less debt and more revenue. the big tax case would still have happened and MIH would still be up shit creek so god knows if anything could have prevented what happened from happening! Still , you have no doubt seen darker days - the mhanks 9iar , the early 80's etc. so maybe can be more objective and calm than those of us who have known mainly only success and dominance as Rangers supporters. ( made a point of putting the capital R in ... )

maybe a silly question but does someone not have to be willing to underwrite a share issue i.e. be willing to take up any shares not purchased? Think it was 2002 when Murray did the 50m/60m pound share issue and MIH took up all unbought shares from that share issue after only £2m or so worth were bought? Also - is it the BOD's that set the share price for a share issue and launch it or do you need to get exsisting shareholder approval before you can do anything like this??

don't know too much about share dealing but does Dave King basically want the current shares in issue to be diluted via a further share issue. The capital , less costs , would go in to the club. Just an example but if there are 1 million shares in issue at the moment and 1 million new shares are issued then everyone who currently holds shares would either have the choice to buy the same number again and maintain the same % stake in the company that they currently hold or not buy and continue to hold the same number shares but see their stake in the company reduced by half. Or have I got it completely wrong?

1. The troll comment was with regards to what the other chap posted . I misunderstood what you meant by Timothy loves you and thought it was a dig - apologies 2. I understand your point that it is how you end a season that is important but if starting the season by going out of cups (keeping in mind that in years gone by the start of a season included European matches and will also in the future) in the 1st round deprives the club of much needed revenue is it not fair to say that starting the season well is vital financially? A decent League Cup run would have 2/3 home games and a couple of televised games - how much income has been lost through the 1st round exit? Would the money generated from a League Cup run have come in useful in the next transfer window/next summer? 3. Berwick match has indeed been brought up several times in the past by various media outlets in the build up to cup matches - not constantly but has been done! More recent results will , imo anyway , be brought up a lot more in the future by the mhedia. was not my intention to cause offence and I apologies for any caused!

good job you didn't post this up in May otherwise we'd have been fighting off Man Utd's approaches for Ally .... they must feel like right twats paying compensation for Moyes when all along they could have got Ally in at a fraction of the cost ....

I am sure someone posted up results between our and newcastles youth teams a few months back ... pretty sure upto about u16 level we were destroying their youth teams and after that the tables were turned quite emphatically ....... there is a long long way to go from U13 to 1st team level and it is vital that we get the right coaching staff and structure in place at youth level to ensure as many of these players fulfill their potential not only as players that could break in to the 1st team but also those that may not be quite good enough for Rangers but could bring a few hundred thousand in transfer fee's and development fees in the future

so it's ok to refer to Rangers Supporters as trolls and timothy just because they don't share your viewpoint? your statement about losing to forfar sais it all .... 5-10 years from now you will be the 1st one greeting when before every cup match the likes of the BBC are showing clips of these defeats and during commentary bringing up these embarrassing results ...

it is irrelevant who put the 2.3m down - fact is that it was via Charles Green! What would have happened if that 2.3m hadn't been put on the table? How much did the Blue Knights , Brian Kennedy , NG or Bill Miller put on the table?