I expected it from the beggars and some other teams,however i was saddened by the level of hatred from all. I was on the founders trail tour a few weeks ago and i spoke with Tiny(we women who does the tours) and asked her if she had any news,she said no that some days it was a step forward then the next two back the way,she stressed the biggest disappointment for all was the amount of people putting the boot in. watp.