The point is, saying it's the UB is saying it's the full group. Which it most definitely isn't. No where near it. So no your not right Craig. Which means your talking shite pal. No offence, and as I said I don't dislike you, far from it, just give the UB bashing a rest. Most are decent guys, you know that also, so instead of starting threads about them have a word with your mates and tell them to wind it in. The trolling timothys will be loving all this shite.