[Statement]

What banned on a made up charge? The problem is proving it.

Innocent until proven guilty or are you like the rest and just have us all guilty and bigots.

I do not hate Catholics, have my friends and relatives are Catholics, my mothers a catholic.

It does not offend them, Why is that? Because they are not fenians and do not hate the Uk or the queen.

Just think my own mother a catholic in court and a list of friends and family who are Catholics also,

Non f them would call me a bigot,

A blue nose, Rangers fan etc but not a bigot.

I was at a funeral at St Bernard's chapel last month, a close family friend, would a bigot sit throw a full mass?

But because I sing a song I'm now a bigot?

As I said prove it.

You want me to prove something I didn't say? I think you would be found guilty based on the law, cases and what you are saying your defence would be. It is an opinion on the verdict the court would give, not up to me to judge.

I haven't used the word bigot or suggested you hate catholics, I don't think I have even used that word either.

[Statement]

So which Billy does the song refer to? Billy Fullerton?

Why does the song not say "we are the Fullerton boys" if it's only associated to a razor gang ?

There are a fair few papes called Billy so it doesn't really make sense

As I understand it, the Billy refers to King William, not Billy Fullerton, and that his gang took The Billy Boys moniker from that, when it gets to The Brigton Billy Boys, then it is very clearly referring to that.

[Statement]

So you do not or have never spoken to anyone growing up in the area?

Yet your an expert?

So not tell me or others about the area and facts about where they grew up.

As for where you grew up? I'm sure you know a lot more than me about it.

But hey take the view of our enemy's on their meaning of the song, they were not interested in the meaning until they could not ban Fenian as sectarian, so now it's offensive as we are gloryfying Billy Fullerton?

What a load of shite, my father was called Billy from Bridgeton I say it's about him. And again prove otherwise ?

You really need to bring more to the table than the shite your spouting. Like facts and not hear say

If your case is that the song the Rangers fans all song has its origins with your father being called Billy, that is fine, it sounds entirely plausible.

I haven't even said it is offensive, just what the origins are. The only reason I mentioned it is because people want to stick with an original definition of Fenian, but an updated definition of Billy Boys, which is somewhat hypocritical.

You keep saying that I am accusing you of not knowing about the place you grew up in, your whole point seems to be that you don't know about it.

Carry on singing it, just not where the club would ask you not to, if you please.

[Statement]

Tell you what Copland Bear, just go for it. Sing it loud and proud (not inside the stadium), get arrested, tell the judge that you know everything in the world about Bridgeton (apart from some gangs that you have never heard of) and what Fenian means and I will wish you the very best of luck.

I suggest you would be found guilty and probably banned from Ibrox, but genuinely hope not.

[Statement]

Do you even know where Bridgeton is? I have forgot more than you know about that area of Glasgow yet you have the balls to try and lecture me about the area and its origins?

As I said my father was born there And lived in Franklin St before moving to the Main St .

What's your knowledge on the people and area if any?

You are doing a fantastic job of not answering the challenge of giving us any other origin to The Billy Boys.

I do agree that it is possible that you have forgotten a lot of stuff though.

Do you think it is only possible for me to know the origin of the song if I lived there?

[Statement]

And your proof is?? Because you say it is? Prove me or any other fan sung it with the meaning you say??

Legalbegal by fuck you would need to be a magician to prove that.

If I say I did not sing it for those reasons then how the fuck can anyone prove otherwise?

Do the beat a confession from you?

It's what it is about. You haven't given me any other idea as to its origins, other than you just want it to be something different.

[Statement]

We all know the origins of the song but your simply at the noise up to say we're all singing about a razor gang.

With the greatest respect, the guy who is banging on about it does not know the origins of the song.

[Statement]

Why is it slightly different?

In the song I quoted Billy refers to a Rangers supporter and Tim refers to a septic supporter, BB may have its origins in the praise for a razor gang but like the word Fenian it has taken on a new meaning.

When I was young I knew nothing about the razor gang, I believed I was singing in praise for King Billy and ergo a Rangers supporter

Because even the Billy Boys were named for King William, not Fullerton. So, you could go with Billy for that. Billy Boys was synonymous with the gang. I genuinely don't really give a monkeys, and very few people are offended or care about that part of the song anyway, we all know what they have a problem with.

[Statement]

can we not get some of our elected and non elected fans groups representatives to pen a letter of to the club, spfl sfa. and the snp dictator to what can be sung as I cant see what is offensive with the EBT or Big Trophies versions.

I think we have tried in the past. The problem tends to be that you can't do anything about what people will actually sing. I don't think the club would go along with EBT anyway, because it would be well, not really something for them to endorse.

It always takes me back to the old days when we would get a full version of Simply The Best before the game, it was pulled for 'add-ons' and the club brought it back, practically begging the fans to leave out the FTP.... And it lasted about 2 weeks.

[Entering 2016]

Massive year for us, and if we make as much progress all around as we have in 2015, I will be a very happy man.

[Statement]

Im lacking knowledge? I have forgot more about the east end of Glasgow than you will ever know.

So the tune is not about a razor gang then? They sung it before the so called razor gang or does the razor gang have the copy rights to the tune?

So what is your prove that it sung about a razor gang? You have none it's all hear say

The Billy Boys is absolutely a song about that gang. It isn't hearsay it is absolutely a fact. If you want to enlighten us with your version of events, you go for it.

[Statement]

You tell me your the one calling him it ?

Your lack of knowledge about songs we have sung over the years is quite startling.

[Statement]

Many believe? They can believe what they damn like about the word Fenian, but the dictionary to our language says something different.

Made up facts again by our enemy's.

Making up quite a few facts yourself to suit whatever you would like the truth to be.

But to humour me, why was Tommy Burns a 'sad, Fenian bastard'? Was he an enemy of the crown and a terrorist?

[Statement]

I don't? Where did you grow up? Was it the east end? If not then how the fuck would you know how I or anyone else thought while singing this song.

Maybe in the 50's and 60's but I'm 45 and I have never thought of it as a razor gang song, it's a catchy tune that can't be rivalled,

Here me thinking the song was something about Georgia in America originally

The tune is Marching through Georgie, which is neither here nor there. Also, your lack of knowledge when you sing it is entirely your own affair, the song is about what it is about.

[Statement]

Not that complicated, do we not sing "I'd rather be be a Billy than a Tim" ?

Does anyone find that offensive ? I don't think so

The reference to Billy in present day terms is quite straight forward.

That is very similar, but also slightly different.

Many believe that in present day terms the reference to Fenian is also quite straight forward.

[Statement]

Again why do we have to prove this?

It's driven by bigots who hate us.

Well, you have to prove it because you are saying something that isn't true, having some basis for saying it would be handy.

[Statement]

Are you from the east end? My father was from Bridgeton all his days and I was brought up a stone throw from it also, when I sung it in the late 70's, 80's, 90's I was not glorifying a razor gang I was singing our anthem.

I have never heard anyone from Brigdeton over the years refer to it as a razor gang, So if you don't sing we are the Bridgeton Derry boys at the end of it and sing we are the cambuslang Derry boys, or any other district in Scotkand fir that matter.

So how is it a razor Gand song? My dad was Billy. My older brother is Billy, the guy next to me at Ibrix is Billy, I meet a few guys at half time two of them are called Billy.

Are you saying the word Billy is illegal? As at no point do these people refer to Bridgeton or a razor gang in any way shape or form, just we are the Billy boys and Fenian blood which again is not sectarian.

It really isn't my fault if you don't know the derivation of the song. That is what the song is about, deal with it.

[Statement]

i think we all know the origins of the song but in the modern day, a Billy is just a term for a Rangers fan and nowt to do with a razor gang (as we all know). This part for me would be laughed out of court.

So, we mean the original definition of Fenian, but an updated definition of Billy Boys... This is complicated stuff.

[Statement]

meanwhile what are you doing? Look I don't want to argue or fall out with you over this but they have no basis to ban the song.

As I have stated it has nothing to do with Catholics and the razor gang shite just does not wash.

This is nothing more than censorship and no other race or creed would be treated as such.

So it's offensive ? If it offends you then you are a traitor to the UK.

Do Protestants not support Celtic and the IRA?

If someone was singing F Catholics then yes they should be jailed.

But TBB being banned is nothing short of a disgrace brought upon for bigoted reasons by our enemy's.

Sorry if I want to fight our corner, I am no bigot or Loyalist, but now I'm a bigot for singing TBB.

They say something often enough then it's true? That's what this is based on nothing more or less.

The board need to get this cleared up once and for all, Did anyone sing FTP after it? Again if they did then they should be charged but this song attacks no religion just traitors and enemy's to our great country.

How does the song have nothing to do with the razor gang?

[Statement]

The club do not want or need the hassle associated with all of this stuff, the club have asked fans repeatedly for many years to stop it, even had Walter Smith talking about it at a press conference.

Fans who are so bloody minded that they cannot stop themselves from going against the club's express wishes should take a look at themselves and ask why they believe they are bigger than Rangers.

If you want to be a test case then go and sing it outside a police station and fight your way through the courts, I think you will most probably lose, because this ridiculous law exists and is interpreted in an extreme way, nonetheless, go for it.

But don't go against what the club repeatedly ask for and then tell anyone who disagrees with you that they aren't true fans, just because they abide with the club's wishes.

[Are We At A Crossroad As A Club?]

Ban fans for singing a song that is offensive.

They offend me and every Rangers fan by complaining, so is that also a crime?

No, that isn't a crime.

[El Hadji Diouf Calls Ex-Celtic Boss Neil Lennon A D***head]

He is a complete fruit loop but he certainly has a point. Strange how the Celtic-minded in the media who told him to go home were absolved of any suggestion of racism....

[Are We At A Crossroad As A Club?]

Legal begal was it not David Murrays position? I know of no supporter who has been coming longer than before Murray turned up at our door who agreed with this.

So as a club we did not get a say? Did you? I never. Put it out to season ticket holders and you will get the clubs true stance.

No, the club's stance is in what the club say, not what the fans say. After Murray, there have always been messages asking fans to refrain. The club also give bans out to fans who are arrested for singing and chanting. The reason the SFA have not been able to fine us so far is because the club makes all efforts to discourage it and therefore aren't held liable for it.

And if anyone thinks that in the middle of trying to get representation at the top level of Scottish football, still fighting off the odd title stripping attempt and generally trying to get the infrastructure right that the club are going to launch into a battle with the football authorities and probably the Scottish government over this, then I am afraid they are deluded.

[Are We At A Crossroad As A Club?]

As a club we are not at a crossroads, the club have made their views clear on this for many, many years and that is not going to change.

[Danny Wilson]

He is fine, no idea why there is such a dislike of him here. It wasn't him at fault for either of the goals on Monday, both of which had pretty glaring errors, so why he is picked out to get criticised is just baffling.