port_bear

I've been getting slaughtered for even questioning his potential but like yourself I just don't see where the hype is coming from. His effort cannot be questioned, the lad gives 110% and more but the points you mentioned about being able to pick a pass, dictate temp and grab the game by the scruff of the neck are all points i've made myself. A few have highlighted his age but that's a moot point for me, at the same age Barry Ferguson was doing everything we mentioned, picking passes, dictating tempo, controlling the midfield, McCrorie on occasions just looks lost. I'm not saying he's not worthy of a place in the squad but for me that's all he is a decent squad player, the hype surrounding him just baffles me.

McLean was by far the best player on the park last night, was involved in everything they did. Why? because he was allowed to !

Ok so most in here are raving about McCrorie last night .. Someone can maybe answer this question for me .. If McCrorie (our holding defensive midfielder) had such an outstanding game, how come McLean (their attacking midfielder) had some much time and space to run the show and eventually get the sponsors man of the match?

I must have been watching a different game last night to everyone else, I thought he was sub standard at best. I lost count the number of times he got caught on the ball or gave possession away and don't get me started on his first touch. One of the first things you're taught as a kid is how to trap the ball at your feet or control a pass, at least 3 times I watched him try this only for the ball to run under his foot. Rarely goes looking for the ball, and when he has it he never drives forward with the ball always looking to get rid of it, either sideways or back.

Inter have been a mess since Mourinho left in 2010, sacking manager after manager, they've had 12 different managers in the past 7 years ffs !! As for the Palace debacle, to sack someone after 10 weeks in the job is more a reflection on the board than it is the ability of the manager.

I cant get my head around this ... People are dismissing FdB because he is foreign (no other reason) despite the fact the guys is a proven WINNER at managerial level. On the other hand they are asking for a Smith type, a "no-nonsense" winner and the name that keeps being mentioned is Clarke, a guy who has won NOTHING as a manager. I'm not saying Clarke isn't a legitimate candidate, of course he is but we cant just rule successful managers out just because of where he was born.

No one can argue with what Clarke has achieved with Killie. However the point I was trying to make was that you seem to think that will somehow guarantee him the same success if he got the job here. Just because he has had instant success at one club doesn't mean the same will happen at another. Its the same with FdB, just because he had failed spells with Inter and Palace doesn't mean his next will also end in failure. I seem to remember a certain MrClough who lasted only 44 days at Leeds before going onto win several European Cups with Forrest. EVERY new manager is a gamble.

So we are paying Alves and Pena peanuts are we? The likes of Dorrans, Murphy and Martin who have come from the mega rich Championship are they on pennies also? We may not have the budget they have but we aren't 100miles away either. The difference (whether you want to accept it or not) is they have a manager who has instilled belief in all his players and united them as team.

So you want a "winning football" mentality over a "good football" mentality and to achieve this you want a manger who has never won anything over a guy who has won 4 league titles in Holland?

That starting 11 that destroyed us yesterday was full of free transfers, end of contract signings and academy graduates, only Brown and Ntcham were big money signings. The difference yesterday was not how much money was spent, the difference was we were lacking a manager with any ability and a background team who aren't much better. Boyd picked up on it at half time, their subs doing proper warm ups and drills, our subs just aimlessly kicking balls about. We had a corner in the first half and I counted 4 blue shirts in the box, FOUR !! About 5 minutes later we had another corner and we only had THREE in the box. That has nothing to do with lack of money, that is down to bad management, poor preparation and lack of leadership from the dugout.

They cost me £240 .... bookies must have known

I was thinking more along the lines of risking one of our key players picking up an injury one week before one of the biggest games of the season in a match that we should easily win.

Hopefully with the celtic game just around the corner, Murty will rest Morelos on Sunday and start Cummings.

The 17pts dropped is a shocker of a statistic and for those who are saying Murty is the answer long term they have to look at that and re-evaluate their assessment. Look, don't get me wrong the guy was placed in a difficult situation and I applaud him for trying his best but I just feel had we appointed a more competent manager within weeks of the Pedro sacking we could have been in a much better position than we are now.

The problem is we are stuck with a board who is reactive when what we need is a board who are more proactive. They are sitting back with their fingers crossed, hoping that Murty does enough from now till the end of the season to win the fans over before announcing a new contract for him in the summer. Should he mess up or not live up to the fans expectations they will then be in panic mode trying to recruit a new manager. What they should be doing is scouring the market, sounding out agents and managers to see who is available / interested and trying to find the best possible option for the club going forward. I like Murty, he seems and really nice, intelligent, honest guy and you can't fault what he's done under the most difficult of circumstances, however for me he's just not the answer long term.