Albertz 78

It's nice they have Rangers to talk about cause they can't really say much on the transfer front apart from desperately trying to punt Dembele before the window shuts. Cummings, Morelos and Murphy running at them at Ibrox will be a joy to watch.

Final post on this cause would rather chat about the footie. But I think the odds of Rangers defaulting were huge at that time I can't see anyway the club was paying that kind of money back. Also I was never of the opinion that Ashley was going to knock Ibrox down or anything but I suspect the plan was to rent it back to the club long term at maybe a million or year or so. As for Park, Letham that's a question I can't really answer one way or another I've not seen anything but that's not to say they never.

We already owed Ashley £6,000,000 at the time so the total debt to him would have been £16,000,000. When Rangers defaulted on the loans and that would have happened Ashley would have owned Ibrox and Auchenhowie. It was a case of selling the ground by the backdoor to be honest.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/30827483 Newcastle owner Mike Ashley is ready to provide a loan of about £10m to Rangers but wants security of Ibrox Stadium and the club's Murray Park training ground, BBC Scotland has learned. The so-called Three Bears consortium, led by the businessman Douglas Park, is believed to have offered a counter loan of about half that amount. That group wants two seats on the club board and security over Murray Park. However, it is thought the Rangers board feel the £5m loan is not enough. In a statement to the Stock Exchange at lunchtime on Thursday, Rangers said: "The directors confirm that they are currently considering various proposals to secure the financial future of the club, however no decision has been made at this time." The club needs a major injection of cash within the next few weeks just to continue as a going concern. Rangers released a statement last year assuring fans that the club's stadium would never be used as security.

It's certainly not ever mentioned at all on any supporters bus I've been on, And on other forums other than a fleeting mention this is never brought up. Frankly it's the kind of rubbish you would expect on a John James blog.

Ashley had plans to give the club a loan leveraged against Ibrox that is a fact! As for the nomad I've had a season ticket on and off since 1996 and never once heard any fan talk about a nomad. The only place I've seen it being mentioned at all is on here.

So saving Ibrox should not be counted in the boards favour or be used as a defence for them, but not having a nomad or something equally stupid can be used as a tool to beat them with?

Not really a deflection as such just a reminder of where we would have been right now without them. More than likely we would be renting Ibrox at this minute and fighting relegation.

Ashley proposed mortgaging off Ibrox weeks before being forced out. Yes I know that may have happened in the past under Murray but we were never going to default on any loans during that period had Ashley got his way Rangers would never have been able to pay back the £10m or so back. You can slag this board off as much as you want but had they not showed up believe me things would be a thousand times worse than they are now.

You just wonder at times where the venom is for the real villains like Murray,Whyte and Green at times these 3 have done a 1000 times more damage to our club than someone like Paul Murray yet they get about 1% of the abuse.

The point is no outstanding candidate exists at the minute so it's better to take a few weeks longer than rush in and hand someone not up to the job a 3 and a half year contract which will costs millions of pounds.

When MW was named manager the same posters that are now slagging off the board for appointing him were kissing Warbs backside telling everyone what a great appointment he was hindsight is a wonderful thing. If DM was appointed the moans would have been "he's not good enough" "the cheap option" "won nothing" blah blah And as for the time it's taken to get a manager in I've yet to see any of the support agree on who that should be.

It's a difficult one. We don't have the money to bring in a top quality European coach at the minute which would mean dropping down to mid level or lower level foreign manager who does not understand the Scottish game. The money down south is astronomical so getting a gaffer from the EPL is out of the question which leaves another Warburton style gaffer who would be a massive risk or DM who knows about the Scottish game and can steady the ship over the next few years.

King will be lucky to get face value for his shares far less make the supposed profit that keeps getting brought up on here. The idea that someone will come along and buy Kings 15% for a massive amount then buy the remaining amount of shares to take control plus fund new signings and cover big losses every year is fantasy.

For me the two biggest wasters at the club right now are Kranjcar and Rossiter probably looking at 10-15k being tossed down a drain every week with these two. For the one's that do play every manger we get seems to have a blind spot and just can't see how pish a keeper Wes Foderingham is and also no matter how many strikers we bring in we always go back to Miller who is 38.