jamescolin

Been similarly researching same history of late and recently came across this quite extraordinary association to your topic, from an old Glasgow Herald, online, article and wondered if it might be of interest: 'The man who sacked Scot Symon' Published Friday 29 December 1989 Alex G. McBain: an appreciation: JIM RODGER writes: Yesterday's obituary of my dear friend Alex G. McBain recorded that he was only the second non-Catholic Scot to receive a papal knighthood. It was the late Archibishop McIntosh who discovered a financial genius, but his work for the Roman Catholic Church in London, Liverpool, and Scotland was not the only side of his brilliant talent. He was financial adviser to Rangers, the John Lawrence Group, and was the 'mystery businessman' who sacked the late Scot Symon, the Rangers manager, in 1967. As a sports writer on the Scottish Daily Express at the time, I tracked him down to a little office two stairs up in Waterloo Street, Glasgow, where I found him eating a couple of sandwiches. He told me: "I just went to see Mr Symon and told him I was there to give him some help and make sure that he was given the proper financial advice". Scot Symon didn't see it that way: he thought it should have been done by the board. [End]

"Neil Razor Ruddock 'sheep shagger' football chant". It's on YouTube!

This one mate?: http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=yDeXDpPALmM

Is that maybe why he comes across as so comfortably revealing his feelings?

Murzo' wrote: "Can't look into the future and say how good it was. Wallowing in the past, it's just reminiscing about some great times. Each to their own but I personally love seeing all the old games from yesteryear and remembering what we were and hopefully be back to in the future". 'siddiqi_drinker' added: "And many more younger Bears not even a glint in their faithers eye when we hammered Leeds, who will appreciate watching archive footage. You have to know your history". 'NamibianBear' noted: "Anybody, in any walk of life, will remember what they achieved in the past and be rightly proud of it. Ask any veteran. I do not see that as wallowing in the past, rather reminiscing the good (or bad) times. With the advantage of decent video footage now available, we can do it so much more rather than replying on the BBC running a rerun at some point. Look to the future, remember the past. The past is our history and has been threatened in recent years and we have defended it vigorously. Should we give it all up?". And 'eskbankloyal' affirmed: "Of course the future should be the focus but our club has an unrivalled history that should be celebrated and remembered for what it is". Man Utd were relegated in 1973/74, Chelsea in 1987/88 and Man City dropped to *Div 2* in 1997/98. Although those clubs have since spectacularly bounced back through investment... it took them all years to do that. Obviously, Rangers are presently at a nascent financial stage in comparison. Excepting these last few years though, no, not on the pitch, where it mattered, as evidenced in these increasing available and warming, online facts of that history. 'MisterC' lamented: 'It's all very well looking at the past but what good does it do and is it even relevant today". I think it might just be a championed attribution about what the club and support actually mean to the aforementioned respondents and others similarly. Sure, like Utd, City and Chelsea, for example, we can all fall on tough times, for years and whatever the circumstances. However, nothing, no matter what deplorable financial fraud may have taken place, derails the fact that on the pitch, our genesis, as shown, remains the foundation of our future.

Superb, cheers, and you've reminded me of this supporters archive as well: "Oct 2010 - Rangers fans enjoy the 3-1 win at Parkhead against Celtic". I don't know how to post a link, but it's on YouTube under: "Rangers fans at Parkhead" Just incredible.

I'd have a bet Warburton will have them..."READY"!

It's one of those interviews that you really need to read over, time and time again, to let it all sink in. So many snippets that could be posted on the dressing room wall. "And if all else fails, there is always that video. 'Oh yeah, I showed it to the players,' he said. 'The likes of Andy Halliday, born 200 yards from Ibrox, know all about it but all the boys coming in from down south, its different for them. 'So we put it on the big screen, turned it up to full volume and then you see it. It's just magnificent. 'I showed them pre-season and I will still keep showing them. This is what it's about to be a Rangers player. This is what we are here for.' [End] "...and I will still keep showing them". In my fifty odd years, never heard any manager speak like this since Shankly.

Wow! Just cheers, mate. It's this kind of thing, part of history, which is maybe long forgotten and in highlighting the OP, thought maybe the younger Bears would especially appreciate same. Aside from which, with all the utter S@#%&E going around just now, wondered if we could all just simply focus back to Rangers fitba!

Looks like we're not alone here! And just found this online: "I still shudder at the thought of it smacking you on the bare leg in the middle of winter. Ouch". It's from an article which sums up that entire 'first experience as playing fitba as a kid': http://sundayclocksarestriking.blogspot.co.uk/2007/12/mouldmaster-or-torture.html?m=1 Notably: "The Ball There is a variety of types of ball approved for Primary School Football. I shall describe the most popular: The rough-finish Mitre or Trophy 5. Half football, half Portuguese Man o War. On the verge of a ban in the European Court of Human Rights, this model is not for sale to children. Used exclusively by teachers during gym classes as a kind of aversion therapy. Made from highly durable fibre-glass, stuffed with neutron star and coated with dead jellyfish. Advantages: looks quite grown up, makes for high-scoring matches (keepers wont even attempt to catch it). Disadvantages: scars or maims anything it touches". The entire article is hilarious and brings back so many memories, most of them painful!

Fabulous interview. So many fundamental insights and positives to take forward.

It was a smaller version of a basketball, about ten times denser and I've yet to be convinced it had a hollow centre. And when that ball got soaking wet, it was just brutal!

In a similar vein and perhaps no need to start a new topic.. If you search on google for "helicopter sunday Rangers" and then select "Images" instead of "Web", there are pages of truly fantastic photos, especially of the fans. Love that one with the banner declaring, "You're Just Not Good Enough".

If I might suggest a search on google under 'Glasgow Rangers tea towel' or 'King Billy tea towel'. Some extraordinary finds there!

So... I'm about ten years old again, playing on a red ash pitch somewhere in Maryhill. Made two sliding tackles and legs shredded on the red ash. A 'mouldmaster' ball, crafted by Satan himself, descends from the bleak Glasgow skyline. You already know a 'mouldmaster' weighs around a ton, bit this one is soaking wet as well.. "Heid it!!" comes the cry from your teammates. Time slows down as the infernal ball seeks you out. So you header it and... Think it was at that point any ambitions about studying Physics at University evaporated in an instant. Can still feel that impact and bet I'm not the only one here.

Absolutely agree and even if it didn't work out, surely get most/all of the money back on a transfer out next summer. As an aside, although not unrelated, what was the final bid for Scott Allan?

From the Daily Telegraph, 8 June: The first question a potential manager normally asks of would-be employers apart from the level of his own salary, of course is the upper limit of his budget. Theres no upper limit, said King. Were talking in a sensible environment where the guy knows what hes doing. Hes not going to go and sign Ronaldo. We all understand that. If he comes along and says, Ive got a guy here and and hes going to cost X thousand pound a week, and hes not in the budget but I think hed make a difference to the club and hed help us over the next couple of years, Id say take him. Unless this position has changed, then maybe the money is there as required. Last month's appointment of Frank McParland as Head of Recruitment, does seem to suggest funds are available to strengthen as deemed necessary.

If that's 'Scottish Borders', 'bordersbear', you won't be a million miles from where I'm posting! Delighted yourself and others have appreciated just highlighting these online memories from the club's history and respondents have profoundly added to our knowledge.

Many thanks to: 'Redwhiteandblue' 'Ibroxholm' 'tannerall' 'soulboy' 'baxterboy' and all for latest responses. If I may, please, briefly reply: 'Redwhiteandblue' noted: "Also, think the British cup ran until the '70's, might be wrong though. Pretty sure there's one in the trophy room". Anyone else love to see a photo of this trophy!? 'Ibroxholm' wrote: "Some great stuff. Is that Ibrox in the 1921 cup final against Thistle?" A couple of acquaintances, who are elderly Jags fans, had no idea this footage existed and are distraught the only Thistle Scottish Cup Final winning goal ever isn't shown! 'tannerall' explained: "During the 1930s when Arsenal and Rangers were the two greatest club teams in the world (thanks to Chapman and Struth) they played each other every year, then continued with the occasional game in the 50s and 60s" Had no idea about any of that. Incredible and grateful you have highlighted this as part of the club's history. Amazing. 'baxterboy' added: "Baxter was unbelievable. if you thought he embarrassed the english with his keepy uppy, it was nothing in comparison with his humiliation of septic in this game. it was the game the chant of 'easy easy' was born". That's just staggering to learn. If this is where chants of "easy, easy" *originated* and I have no doubt, it's a legendary football recollection and one that should perhaps be passed on elsewhere!

Never knew that! Just thanks and I'm sure not only on behalf of myself.

Sandy, thanks again and just a brief recap now that I've tine to see that uplaod. The fundamental difference seems to be that it's simpler to search for related items directly on the Pathe web site, plus their own has profoundly helpful background narrative. Having had a weekend free to actually spend time on the Pathe site, might I please highlight and recommend: "Scottish Cup Final Cuts 1928" "Scottish Cup Final 1934" "Scottish Cup - Final At Hampden 1936" "Dynamos Draw With Rangers 1945" "Hearts v Rangers 1957" "Rangers Beat Sparta 1960" (Why played at Highbury?) "Rangers 19th Cup 1966" (If not all the goals were recorded, sure you'll still get the gist of it). Paths is one of those sites,indeed probably the definitive site that when you reach my age, where you just know there must surely be some memories either long forgotten or simply maybe justify being 'bumped' here. If, for example, you search under "Ibrox Park": "Boys Brigade Display In Glasgow 1938" And... "Investiture At Ibrox Park" "Shots of large crowds packing the stadium. Soldiers line the edge of the pitch. Shots of King George V on platform presenting awards to nurses and wounded soldiers". Maybe the last sentence there mirrors the present endeavours of many on this forum - and of course elsewhere - keeping that tradition alive.

OK, last posting should have read - (I'm new to this... which is why I was scared of posting in the first place, but just thought that archive was spectacular): bluegecko, might want to keep the entire weekend free... if infinitely more priority family commitments permit! I did include in my initial posting (is that called an OP?) a wee heads-up - because I was experiencing how fascinating the Pathe site could suck you in and to be fair, I did use the word "compelling'. Looks like you have to experiment with searches, e.g. "rangers celtic" doesn't find the following which comes under "rangers won": Rangers v Celtic - Scottish Cup final (cuts). Hampden Park, Scotland Soccer (football). Glasgow's Cup Final. Rangers v. Celtic; c. 1920's. Typical shots of football match: 2 team captains & referee at start of game; coin toss; various shots of action from the game; players running out onto field. Rangers won the match 4-0. (End) There's another heading on that page which actually dates this rather than 'circa 1920's' to 1928. 4-0.... well I'll be.... 'EBT phone home'... or was there some other excuse... in hindsight, but just not at the time. I just hope you enjoy the glorious archive history and if others find something wonderful from a speculative search, we can be sure they'll share. It's out there... and EBT's just nodded same.

Anyone on the forum who was at the 1963 cup final and saw *that* Rangers side? Pretty sure your reminiscing would be somewhat welcome here.