GersGuy

At this point, do we just start blooding the youngsters!? I don't even know anymore man.

Only thing that might make a mark on this teflon-necked Board is if we all just vote with our feet and let them know we won't be turning up to watch this shite anymore.

Already gassed this season. Their falling like flies as well, so many injuries because their manager destroys their players. It's like having R1 glued down on Fifa on the PlayStation.

Small minded mentality, obsessed with us.

It feels like he puts fear into the opposition, but I agree he's not the full rounded quality we want, let's be honest, he wouldn't be up in the SPFL if he was. IF we had a few more dynamic players like him, willing to actually go forward, it would ease the burden on him. I'm not a Kent nuthugger - as I said, headless chicken, but I'm not going to say he's dross as a knee-jerk reaction. He's maddeningly inconsistent, but in flashes he had the beating of his man yesterday. Decision-making is off and needs support. Anyway, it's a moot point, no doubt he's wanting to fuck off to Leeds in January for pennies knowing our luck.

Had to take some time off and come back to it today, horrendous night. The killer here is that we weren't undone by class or skill or a technical ability above our players. It's simple things that this club is founded on, heart, grit, desire and always being up for putting it on them lot. It's a complete reversal of our attitude in the 90s. Our current crop, even for years, just don't get it. As a few Bears have said on here, losing is like a death in the family, but you can understand that it happens. But it's the sheer lack of passion. The lack of understanding about what this club is and what it means to thousands. The ramifications for us that need to interact with that lot during the week in work and not bleeding for the shirt. I like Kent as a player, but he's a headless chicken with no footballing brain. Gum the game up, pretend to take the throw in, stand in front of Macgregor's free kick for the second, even I know that and I've played sunday football/5s and 7s. never mind a professional footballer who has spent pretty much every day of his life training and playing the game. And I like a moany player, it shows they care, but all Goldson and Tav ever do is bitch and whine at each other instead of one growing a pair and accepting responsibility. I watched our players' reactions again this morning after each goal - there's no communication, no desire, no hurt. Davies for example just turns away from the goalie after pointing for the fourth and starts to roll up his socks. Empty jerseys and no passion, that's our problem - it's not ability. Too many happy to take up a wage and coast. Rant over.

Back and forth? You having a laugh? We were on our backs and the filth spread forth our legs, we did fuck all about it.

Not saying no, but who do we get instead? Rather get it sorted before we get too deep into the season.

Trying to see any positives but fuck sake, what can you do when you're giving them the ball to go one on one.

Not wanting to post with the blue specs on, but at least we're showing a bit of spirit here second half. They are looking gassed and it should show our boys that there's a lot of hype about them. Difference has been concentration on three dead balls.

Great point I never thought about that

no it doesn't excuse yesterday, I was as angry as anyone here. We shouldn't be losing to a team of cluggers like that. But big picture, has there been an improvement since last season and MW's halcyon days? IT's plain to see we have a better squad, once the new bodies bed in, I think we'll walk away with second and can then look to taking down those smug junkies.

Bit of a cunt aren't you? Who is ignoring anything you gobshite? I said that people are forgetting that we started from scratch in the 3rd division. Anyway, yeah, we were in the 3rd division, but I defy you to say that working our way up after the rest of Scottish football screwed us over wasn't some of the greatest and cathartic moments in our recent history. There was a feelgood factor about the club and we were like a big family. Have to be realistic and appreciate that we are constrained by the parameters we have - no finance, no magic money man, a poor playing squad that PC inherited and an adaptation to new methods. If this takes us half a season to get into gear but we then look like we're ready to start building upwards then I'm all for it. Still think you're a cunt but.

I actually really like Pedro, it's plain to see that he has been bitten by the bug and now really feels it like we do. I've seen the hard times in the early 80s and I've seen garbage. Genuinely believe that there is progression. I am the first to say that there is not enough progression. We, as we rightly should, have become accustomed to winning as a club and to have that long ingrained mentality constantly picked away at is soul destroying at times. We need to step back and take a look at the bigger picture though. After SDM/ Scottish football screwed us, we had literally nothing. We have had to essentially start again from scratch. Yes we had a wonderful stadium and training facilities, but apart from that we had to get in players that were not Rangers quality. So it has taken time, and I'm afraid it will take more time. We're not competing on an even playing field, surely to fuck anyone watching that assault on our lads yesterday could see that. celtic are currently the dominant team, and it WILL sting if they get 10, but their time at the top will come to an end, people will start to come in for their players and strip them out (personally I think most are overrated but with the money around these days you have to be realistic). In the meantime, we need to continue to grow, even if it is incrementally, as we have been doing. Remember, it took us two years to get out of the Championship ffs. I'm willing to give Pedro a chance until the end of the season - we need to secure 2nd and be challenging for the Scottish Cup. With a full season behind them, I can see no reason we can't make the Europa League group stages. That's when our curve should start to accelerate upwards. I'm generally not a patient man, but as long as I see solid foundations being put in place, I'll (reluctantly) allow a bit more time. Let that other mob jump about like the classless morons they are and let's concentrate on ourselves.

He's decent but I think that he is massively overrated. Would he get into our team - honestly, Candeias is really impressing me, quality delivery consistently.