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He wasnt playing for Dundee before that. He was injured/downed tools along with others in the Dundee squad. One of the worst teams in the modern Premier League dont stop playing such an impressive player unless for good reason.

I'm not sure the 'art' of bringing through young professionals is about coaching & training, at least once they get to a certain age, say, 18-21. You kinda assume that if the club has done even the slightest amount of homework on the club they are loaning to then the loanee will get passable coaching at the club he moves to. I think the loan system is a way of keeping young players on the books and hoping they develop into senior pros. It's notoriously difficult to predict which youth players will kick on to top class pros and which ones will fall by the wayside. Chelsea have dozens of youth players out on loan. Not every one of them will become EPL class. Loaning them out ensures Chelsea will have every opportunity of seeing which ones will make the grade before releasing them or not.

He, along with a number of others, had effectively downed tools at Dundee earlier this season.

This. He's not much different to what we already have, but going by yesterday(I realise it's too early to fully judge) Kamara appears to be better at it.

The game is also live on YouTube if the Alkass site isn't working for folk. The site has been horrific for me to watch live. Sorry, I can't post links on this device.

Still early days but I think he's looking better by the game. If there is further improvement to come then we'll have signed a cracker.

That's quite a decent move for Dundee. Rossiter, who has also been mentioned as a loan to Dundee, ain't keeping Dundee up. Hardie just might.

Yup, it was always going to take at least 3 transfer windows to fully turn us around imo. The dross of the past couple of years was never going to be overcome after only a single window.

Grezda played well first half, pretty anonymous(understandably) in the second. People really shouldn't take much notice of 'reports' on players. The game is full of pundits, commentators and managers talking absolute bollocks. We bought Grezda For £1.5m. 23 year old footballers signed for 1.5m are rarely outstanding. The best we can hope is that we got a bit of a bargain who will become a mainstay of our team. Right now it's too early to tell but the signs look fairly positive.

I agree with this, I think. These sort of decisions are what make or break a management team and DoF. Very few players are irreplaceable. All options should be considered. If, and it's a big if, our DoF and scouting department think they have identified a number of targets that would improve the team, but financing them was a problem, then a cash injection from the sale of either player should be considered. Would the sale of Tav be worth bringing in 2 or 3 potentially decent midfielders? Answers on a postcard please because I have no idea. It would largely depend upon the faith we have in our new super-duper scouting department.

Re Your claim about limited ability. So Lafferty and Arfield are bad signings? Both are limited as fuck but come with the benefit of being pretty cheap. They are good team/squad options. If bargains are out there we need to take a chance on some of them. Let's face it, neither of us have a freaking clue the full potential Halkett can reach.

Our primary concern for now should be affordable quality. If some of them are free transfers from Scottish clubs then so be it. But I don't think I'd want too many players from the domestic market. I say this as someone who has absolutely no idea if Hallett is good enough for us. I vehemently disagree that price tags may be irrelevant to us anytime soon. Only the like of Man City and PSG view price tags as unimportant. We will be limiting our expenditure for the foreseeable future even if we get a billionaire investor. IF a quality free transfer is available then we should snap him up, the only issue is if Hallett is quality enough.

I didn't say I want to sign him. I haven't seen enough of him. I'm willing to allow the judgement of Mark Allen etc for that. I said our financial means is very limited. Quality bargains are hard to come by. Neither have we a great record of producing great youthful talent. My point was the we need about 4 CB' s of first team quality in our squad. I'm not too fussed if one of them is of limited ability but dirt cheap.

It's a game of fine margins. These decisions on who to sign are what makes or breaks a manager or DoF. But at the moment we are still pretty skint. Not only pretty skint but we are not exactly running away with the domestic league. I think it's getting ahead of ourselves to be thinking about future European runs when we concede 3 at Motherwell and let Livi have a barrel load of chances. If he's cheap and MAYBE good enough then he's perhaps worth a punt. If it turns out he's not good enough then we drop him from 3rd to 4th to 5th choice CB pretty quickly. We then let him go with minimum financial cost.

You virtually always need to be adding squad options imo. Worrall and McAuley are both short-term signings. What happens next season when Worrall & McAuley have both left the club and Katic, as has every chance of happening, is subject to a bid by, say, Fulham or Wolves?

Tbf I spent much of last night's game frustrated, mostly at our inability to create clear cut chances. If we hadn't scored those two late goals, and it was easily possible that we wouldn't stick them away, the forum would be in meltdown this morning. Football is a game of fine margins, I'm still ecstatic about the result, but the performance AT TIMES showed glaring examples as to why we are struggling in the league. After this Sunday's game we'll once more either be brilliant or shite. There is no room for an inbetwen opinion on this team.

And he should throw multi-coloured confetti in the air as players walk out away from home.

True, but Gerrard has got us to the Europa League(with all the rotation problems that also brings). Plus, more importantly imo, a manager should expect to inherit a reasonable squad of players to work with. Gerrard inherited a shower of complete sh.ite. He has had to build pretty much from scratch(and spent relatively little). He mostly gets a pass for this season from me.

I can't help but think this is a large part of the reason. Let's just wait and see how they perform in all the Europa league games before congratulating ourselves on uncovering these talents. How they play at home against the likes of Dundee and St Johnstone isn't going to tell us much about their ultimate standard.

It's not as impossible as I'd thought 3 months ago, or indeed 3 weeks ago. I wouldn't put it any stronger than that. I think they are still favourites but if they continue to disintegrate who knows.

A word of advice; don't waste time arguing over the pettiest of shit with some random on the internet. Time to shut this convo down.

Well it is a conspiracy by the writer and editor to get us clicking on the pretty pish 'article'. An article that tells me nothing.

Tbf the article is kinda clickbaity bullish*t. I suspect we aren't yet as good as we think we are, celtic aren't quite as bad as we hope they are, and that whatever is happening with Rodgers is typical Rodgers; a good first season followed by a variety of managerial problems. I rather doubt Steven Gerrard has gotten into Rodgers' head. More likely Rodgers is reverting to type.

That bid came in at the worst possible time for us. If Tav performs the next 3 times against celtic the way he performed last time then I think it's entirely possible he'll be off. If we find our creative feet in midfield and attack then Tavs attacking ability becomes a lot less important.

Too many poor games against celtic(who are our best yardstick to judge players on). The last old firm game was the final straw for me. Tav was not a priority to get rid of this past close season, but he probably should be a priority next close season. If he does leave though he will leave with my best wishes and my thanks for his contribution these past few years.