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i still hope it happens to keane tomorrow (tu)

Fuck off, you ignorant cunt.

Hope Ramsey makes a full recovery (tu)

mixed emotions for you tomorrow for Keane, what with you being a spurs fan an all.

Big time :craphead: Keane hat-trick and Rangers 4-3 would do me perfect.

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It's a red card. Of course it is.

It's not a violent challenge or with intent, but it's dangerous. He's thundering through the guy, takes a wild swing for the ball and catches Ramsey high on his leg.

There was clearly no intention from Shawcross to hurt Ramsey but it was clumsy and dangerous play, that merits a red card.

Feel sorry for Shawcross as he looked distraught but my heart really goes out to Ramsey. That's a horrific break and we'll just have to wait and see how bad it is. Some breaks, players just can't back from. Fingers crossed it's fixable.

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It's a red card. Of course it is.

It's not a violent challenge or with intent, but it's dangerous. He's thundering through the guy, takes a wild swing for the ball and catches Ramsey high on his leg.

There was clearly no intention from Shawcross to hurt Ramsey but it was clumsy and dangerous play, that merits a red card.

Feel sorry for Shawcross as he looked distraught but my heart really goes out to Ramsey. That's a horrific break and we'll just have to wait and see how bad it is. Some breaks, players just can't back from. Fingers crossed it's fixable.

This, shawcross will be ashamed of himself, but in all honesty I think he didn't mean it.

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just cause his leg broke does not mean he should walk

it was 50/50 imo, ramsey was quick, bit slower the cunt would be walking

as sumone said before its the intent not the outcome

doesnt take much to break a bone

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just cause his leg broke does not mean he should walk

it was 50/50 imo, ramsey was quick, bit slower the cunt would be walking

as sumone said before its the intent not the outcome

doesnt take much to break a bone

Put all things into context, the injury, the amount of cameras in the ground, the grilling he would of got if he didn't send him off from the media, fans etc. No choice tbh.

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MOTD showed what happened?

yeah, they showed replays and a slow motion different angle replay that they froze at the point of contact

for what its worth, ramseys foot seemed already bent over just as shawcross hits him

That was something i spotted as well, as if his studs were caught in the turf weakening his stance, i hope he makes a full recovery because he is a special talent.

I thought Wengers outburst was shocking ,he has been in the game long enough to keep his own council and wait till the heats off before commenting, all that done was provoke a response from Tony Pulis basically telling Wenger to shut the fuck up "you know nothing about my player"

It was a bad tackle, but imo no way malicious, up and down the country there were probably 100 tackles worse than that with no serious injuries.

I wish AR a full and speedy recovery but Shawcross should not beat himself up about it.

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MOTD showed what happened?

yeah, they showed replays and a slow motion different angle replay that they froze at the point of contact

for what its worth, ramseys foot seemed already bent over just as shawcross hits him

That was something i spotted as well, as if his studs were caught in the turf weakening his stance, i hope he makes a full recovery because he is a special talent.

I thought Wengers outburst was shocking ,he has been in the game long enough to keep his own council and wait till the heats off before commenting, all that done was provoke a response from Tony Pulis basically telling Wenger to shut the fuck up "you know nothing about my player"

It was a bad tackle, but imo no way malicious, up and down the country there were probably 100 tackles worse than that with no serious injuries.

I wish AR a full and speedy recovery but Shawcross should not beat himself up about it.

tbh i kinda see wnegers point

would shawcross have went in that hard against another team?

to me it seems that the other "less-footballing" sides in the EPL go in a lot harder on the arsenal players, because they know they wont get it back at them

the fact is, shawcross was late (the tackle came from his heavy touch), was high up ramsey's leg (the slow motion replay shoed him going over the ball from the start) and it was obviously hard enough to force ramseys leg in the other direction from the way it was moving

now would shawcross ave went in like that against say Viera/de jong, or scholes/carrick etc etc

other teams get bad injuries, like knee ligaments etc, but they can happen in a twist, a wee knock etc, leg breaks are the result of thundering challenges, yet they only really happen to arsenal

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just cause his leg broke does not mean he should walk

it was 50/50 imo, ramsey was quick, bit slower the cunt would be walking

as sumone said before its the intent not the outcome

doesnt take much to break a bone

Put all things into context, the injury, the amount of cameras in the ground, the grilling he would of got if he didn't send him off from the media, fans etc. No choice tbh.

It was never a red card, a debatable yellow. Ref reacted to seeing a broken leg.

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The ref told a Stoke radio station that he only sent Shawcross off because Ramsey's leg was broken.

I don't think it was a red card challenge, but Shawcross would have been taken off instantly anyway had he not been sent off.

Doing that to a fellow professional and not actually meaning to must be an awful feeling.

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