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We know Wlad was in condition because that upper cut could of killed him otherwise :lol:

AJ found the bingo punch and he won the fight just as well because they scorecards were a joke..

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7 minutes ago, KingKirk said:

Its amazing how people see things mate I think Fury would just be a younger Wlad plenty of movement whilst the footwork might not be the same I think Fury pulls the trigger and steps on the gas when his moments come.

He is nothing like a younger Wlad, and does not carry explosive power like Wlad does. Of course an 18st man like Fury can bang, but he is not explosive, and.... nowhere near as technical as Klitschko is.

Fury is awkward, hard to pin down, gangly, totally unorthodox, switches styles.... sheer size is his main asset rather than boxing ability.

He was all wrong for Klitschko, and even 10yrs ago... I think Fury causes a naturally cautious Wlad problems (although I think younger Wlad wins a close-ish decision).

I think Fury leaves enough openings that the more trigger happy Joshua gets through.

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13 minutes ago, Badger said:

He is nothing like a younger Wlad, and does not carry explosive power like Wlad does. Of course an 18st man like Fury can bang, but he is not explosive, and.... nowhere near as technical as Klitschko is.

Fury is awkward, hard to pin down, gangly, totally unorthodox, switches styles.... sheer size is his main asset rather than boxing ability.

He was all wrong for Klitschko, and even 10yrs ago... I think Fury causes a naturally cautious Wlad problems (although I think younger Wlad wins a close-ish decision).

I think Fury leaves enough openings that the more trigger happy Joshua gets through.

Fair do's mate best thing they could do is get it on and let everyone find out:lol:

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Feels weird watching 2 fighters be so nice and humble :lol: . We've become conditioned to expect all out verbal warfare before the fight and following the fight it's all cuddles and kisses. It was a refreshing change.

Really, really liked the way AJ spoke after the fight and thanked the legends of the sport. 

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7 hours ago, Vanoli said:

Joshua has two or three bursts to take you out. When he doesn't he ends up in massive trouble. Even at British title level Whyte showed it. It's all on Fury, what happened to him was terrible but to melt down the way he did shows weakness. But if he can come back, and hit the levels he did against Wlad he's so unorthodox and awkward that he'll fry Joshua's brain. 

Comfortable win for Fury if he can come through the crisis spells, Wlads age stopped him from doing so. 

But fair play to Joshua. Massive gut check, and the answer to the stamina question was incredible. Until Fury gets himself together, he's the man.

I don't think the reason why AJ nearly got Ko'd it's down to fighting in bursts. I think it's down to him being too reckless when he is trying to finish. He doesn't care what is being thrown by his opponent, he seems to only care about the finish. For me it's all about him losing focus, which you would hope improves with experience. 

If he took his time and waited for better openings, what happened last night in the 5th and 6th and against Whyte would never of happened. 

Klitschko made the opposite mistake and thought he could coast to the end of the fight when he hurt AJ. 

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It's a combination of fighting in bursts and and also inexperience from Joshua, when he got caught heavily in the 6th he had also 'went for it' and emptied his tank.  He managed to hold on and a more ruthless fighter would've stopped him I think.

In saying that it was a brilliant fight for a fan and I'm sure Joshua will learn from that fight and his the potential to be remembered as one of the greats.

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Thinking about it sober.

Whilst Wlad did fight better than against Fury, he did once again show again that his timing has gone. He has lost the ability to throw a punch as the gap emerges - He can't pull the trigger. No shame in it, it's a classic symptom of an aging boxer. He still has all the ring IQ, and big power.

So why did he look so much better? Well unlike Fury he did a lot of leading last night. Timing is much less important when leading, trying to set the pace, and Joshua is more stand in front fighter that allowed Wlad to do this. Against Fury he was forced to counter, against a clumsy, awkward target, who kept him tied up... and was shown to be punch shy.

Given there is no cure for "punchitis". I do not see a rematch, with a more educated (for this fight) Joshua, ending well for Wlad.

Joshua had the best lesson of his boxing career tonight, and will definitely learn from it. I still think he is the real deal, but maybe not quite as good as I thought he was - yet.

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Joshua certainly isn't the total package, but there aren't too many active heavyweights that would beat him.

He will learn a lot from this fight, and he's shown his toughness if nothing else. Big result, winning in the 11th, essentially everyone had said he couldn't win after halfway.

 

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1 hour ago, Badger said:

Thinking about it sober.

Whilst Wlad did fight better than against Fury, he did once again show again that his timing has gone. He has lost the ability to throw a punch as the gap emerges - He can't pull the trigger. No shame in it, it's a classic symptom of an aging boxer. He still has all the ring IQ, and big power.

So why did he look so much better? Well unlike Fury he did a lot of leading last night. Timing is much less important when leading, trying to set the pace, and Joshua is more stand in front fighter that allowed Wlad to do this. Against Fury he was forced to counter, against a clumsy, awkward target, who kept him tied up... and was shown to be punch shy.

Given there is no cure for "punchitis". I do not see a rematch, with a more educated (for this fight) Joshua, ending well for Wlad.

Joshua had the best lesson of his boxing career tonight, and will definitely learn from it. I still think he is the real deal, but maybe not quite as good as I thought he was - yet.

His big asset is his power and no one in the how division can live with it. 

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42 minutes ago, The Godfather said:

Wlad is over the hill, the fact he was a bawhair away from ending Joshua says it all.

Was a great fight but Joshua isn't half as good as some think.

i agree his boxing skills are lacking but no one can live with his power.

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I think Wlad had gotten a bit stale by the time he fought Fury and the defeat came as a bit of a shock. 

Last night's Wlad would have sparked Fury out. 

Ended up feeling a bit sorry for him last night just falling a bit short. 

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4 hours ago, King_gazza said:

Interesting scorecards, I had it Joshua up by 1 but wouldn't complain if it was even or Klitschko just ahead. 

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Is it including the 10-8, 11th round? If they do, they're not bad, if not they are a joke. 

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36 minutes ago, maverick1200 said:

Is it including the 10-8, 11th round? If they do, they're not bad, if not they are a joke. 

nah, because after 11 rounds you can have 110 points, so there's no way joshua and klitschko lost that many points over 11 rounds,

tbh id have had joshua ahead after 10 rounds as well, apart from the 5th and the 6th round i say he won the rest, even the 7th he finished way stronger and had suitably recovered from his knockdown earlier in the fight

for me klitschko won only 2 rounds out of 10

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I had the fight at about even going into the 11th. I wasn't keeping score, so my gut tells me I probably had Klitschko slightly ahead but Joshua growing back into the fight. 

I find it easier to justify Klitschko being ahead than AJ.

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19 hours ago, KingKirk said:

Tyson fury stops AJ been saying it since the whyte fight... Still believe it

U got to be kidding ?

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