Ace 3,556 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Both teams started with 4-5-1 and it looked like it would work well for us but Walter Smith's version of this formation switches to 5-4-1 whereas Lennon's often goes to 4-3-3.Our midfield has been second to almost every ball, their (Celtic) possession was, at one point upto 67% which is ridiculous, especially at Ibrox.In the second half, when were a goal & a man up, it appears the the team instructions were to "sit in & defend".I am a great admirer of Walter but his tactics today have totally confused, confounded and befuddled me.Of course, it could be that the players are the ones who have failed and not the manager here .. but to me, today, it is the management team who have got it wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2368 1 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Its a disgrace that Celtic have been allowed so much possession at Ibrox. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnd34 0 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 walters tactics were terrible, but every player was shite second half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFallenParadise 7 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 It was absolutely disgusting how they controlled that midfield.We seriously need a new CM. Jamie Ness is not a playmaker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvager 498 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Passed off the park in the 2nd half even when he had a man advantage. Our players gave Celtic far too much room on the ball and we should have been dominating them. Tactics all wrong - why were we sitting back with a 1 man advantage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieD 18,881 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Its a disgrace that Celtic have been allowed so much possession at Ibrox.This.Unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy WATP 86 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Smith's usual tactics of going ahead and then sittig back and inviting pressure, cant believe we threw that away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,123 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Tatics we have no tatics, what the fuck is walter doing?The Tims deserved to win Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markoger 0 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Its a disgrace that Celtic have been allowed so much possession at Ibrox. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleteduser1 169 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Dumbfounded at our 2nd half tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ognjenko 19 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 some of us have been saying this for 5 years but steel we play as a cowards. should we understand ourselves, I don't blame players not 1 bit ................. 2-1 up, celtic grogged and what does walter do ???? pull all 11 behind ball .... great !!! we should be lucky we didn't lose .... I cannot satisfie myself with that .... we need to dominate on ibrox !!!!!!!! glad to see walter go to retirement........if someone wants to ban me from forum because of that, than let him, but I said my honest opinion and I'm not affraid to say that .....sick and tired of cautious and coward tactics .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thommo 708 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 If we kept attacking them we would have put 4 or 5 past them. Disgraceful tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 69 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Totally agree, the one that gets me is the sit and defend one. We played on the counter attack for 90 mins. Not once do I remember us probing in their half, Celtic ... For the 67% possession or whatever they had most of it was in our half! We sat far too deep, allowed their full backs to play as wingers. We did not look like Champions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markoger 0 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 We gave they fuckers to much space in the second halfAnd a don't think smith's tactics were right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
minnbear 30 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I will NEVER understand us sitting back defending a 1 goal lead at any time in Scotland, never fuckin mind when we are a man up..... IT'S NO FUCKIN WORKIN WALTER. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the brown brogue 1,909 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Unfortunately as much of a cunt as Lennon is he has a modern management style whilst Smith is, always will be and always has been, stuck in the footballing dark ages. He's won a lot with us but I can't wait for hopefully a new fresh approach next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
H72 265 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I feel sick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 69 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I just can't quite understand why we sat so deep without the ball. Celtc with 2 upfront and their pressing were forcing us to punt it long ... Celtc have it back, we sit off, they probe and control.Its so simple to see. What happened to the pressing game we were praising in the last round of the cup? We bottled it.Even talking about Celtc's dominating we still could have won with the chances we had Imagine if we had put our foot on the ball and probed in their half more, could have been a resounding victory ... Make things so hard for ourselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricksen_da_best 2,034 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 We defiantly started 4-4-1-1 and it was working brilliantly, till we scored and resorted back to 4-5-1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brissyger 8 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 The players were woeful but I don't think the tactics helped. Apart from a couple of bright sparks in the first half Celtic dominated the game. Diouf, Jelavic and Bougherra were the only ones putting any serious effort in and winning balls. Every other player was outclassed by them.For those calling for Davie Weir to be dropped, get a grip! Who the hell do we replace him with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeReadyStu 70 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Smith got it utterly wrong in the 2nd half. Lafferty and Weiss should have come on at about 55 mins not after they'd fucking scored, and not in place of Diouf and Jelavic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasGers 96 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I usually think the effect of tactics are overstated in some cases, but I believe they played a big part in the result today. Celtic were given license to do whatever they pleased and we were the ones who looked a man down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordo7 147 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Tactics cost us this game. When the other team is down to 10 men, you HAVE to make that advantage count, not sit back and invite them on. Absolutely baffling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 69 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 When they went down to 10 men, that was when we should have went with 2 wide players in Diouf and Weiss and 2 upfront.Even with the 4-5-1 we didnt compete, it really is baffling to me and when Celtc brought samaras on they went 4-3-2 which went to a 2-5-2 with their full backs joining in all game and we just let it happen, I can't quite understand why we didn't try and kill the tie. Outplayed 5v3 in the middle and allowed the fullbacks onto us.If we had went 2 upfront their full backs would never have seen as much of the ball or risked going forward as much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delparlane 5,639 Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 When they went down to 10 men, that was when we should have went with 2 wide players in Diouf and Weiss and 2 upfront.Even with the 4-5-1 we didnt compete, it really is baffling to me and when Celtc brought samaras on they went 4-3-2 which went to a 2-5-2 with their full backs joining in all game and we just let it happen, I can't quite understand why we didn't try and kill the tie. Outplayed 5v3 in the middle and allowed the fullbacks onto us.If we had went 2 upfront their full backs would never have seen as much of the ball or risked going forward as much.No lie m8 - I am simply unable to fathom our approach at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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