Alan LSOB 85 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Hope Chelsea get beat, so spurs can get into the champions league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,874 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Portugal's Pedro Proenca is to referee the Champions League final between Bayern Munich and Chelsea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,874 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Logically, you have to go for a Bayern win. They're better man for man in pretty much every position, and Bayern, of course, have home advantage. I don’t really agree with that.Cole is one of if not the best left back in the world at the moment and Cech I think is a level above their keeper and has bags more of experience to boot. On his day Drogba is unplayable and can hurt any team out there as he showed against Barcelona and Liverpool recently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,874 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 IMO Lahm's better than Cole, while Neuer's better than Cech (on recent form at least). Agree about Drogba; a Chelsea win looks a lot more likely if he decides to turn it on.Hmm not for me, Cole is a far better defender than Lahm while Cech imo is a better GK and his recent from has been in the large brilliant, the main reason Chelsea are in the CL final and FA cup winners. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,874 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Fair enough; agree to disagree.Indeed.However I feel bayern in midfield are far stronger with the likes of Robben, Schweinsteiger and Ribery. That is where Chelsea could struggle.Talk is that Schweinsteiger is carrying an injury which would explain his slight dip recently, hope it's better for the euros. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,874 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Champions League: How Chelsea can beat Bayern Munich in finalGerman football expert The whole city of Munich is turning red and white ahead of the Champions League final. But inside the Bayern camp, spirits have been dampened by the 5-2 drubbing at the hands of Borussia Dortmund in the German Cup final last Saturday. "Maybe a bit a of humility is not the worst thing at the moment," Bayern president Uli Hoeness told Sueddeutsche Zeitung (a German national subscription daily newspaper) on Wednesday in an attempt to put a positive slant on the defeat. Bayern's confidence might have suffered a blow to the point that Jupp Heynckes' men are no longer seen as natural favourites by the German media - but they remain formidable opponents. The Bavarian back four and keeper Manuel Neuer were not without their wobbles this season, but a meagre 22 goals conceded in the Bundesliga - one goal shy of the record - suggests that their problems might have been overstated. Against Chelsea, Heynckes will have to make changes, however. In the absence of the suspended Holger Badstuber and Daniel van Buyten, who is short of match practice following a foot injury, Ukrainian midfielder Anatoliy Tymoshchuk will moonlight as a centre-back. "Tymo", as the fans call him, is likely to get picked on by Didier Drogba and cannot hope to match him for sheer power or aerial prowess. Chelsea v Bayern historyThe two clubs met in the 2004-05 quarter-finals, with Chelsea winning 6-5 on aggregate - five of their six goals were scored by players who are still at the club Hitting long balls to Drogba and feeding on his knock-downs worked a treat for the Blues when they eliminated Bayern 6-5 on aggregate in the 2004-05 Champions League quarter-finals and the Ivorian scored twice. Bayern's worries at the heart of the defence are compounded by Jerome Boateng's unfortunate tendency to switch off at vital moments of the game. The former Manchester City defender does not exude the same authority as Badstuber either. Diego Contento will replace the suspended David Alaba as left-back. The 22-year-old is dynamic but can be suspect positionally. He is the second obvious weak link. Right-back Philipp Lahm, by contrast, is so good that Chelsea boss Roberto di Matteo mentioned him in the same breath with Franck Ribery, Arjen Robben and Mario Gomez when talking about Bayern's attacking threat on Tuesday. The Bayern captain is consistent to the point of being a machine and offers constant support for Robben on the right flank. Chelsea need to pin him back to suppress Bayern's fluidity and watch out for early crosses into the danger area between goalkeeper Petr Cech and the centre-backs. Tymoshchuk's move into the back four leaves Bayern without a recognised holding midfielder, since Luiz Gustavo is also suspended. Toni Kroos and Bastian Schweinsteiger will make for a very cultured central pairing, but might not be able to offer much protection for the defence. Chelsea's Juan Mata, in particular, will try to utilise the space between the lines. Thomas Mueller, Gustavo's replacement, is more of a roving forward than an attacking midfielder. Bayern could be a bit top-heavy as a consequence and Chelsea could end up dominating the midfield with their extra man. Mario Gomez could be key to the outcome of the Champions League final While the Blues should get some joy in the middle, they must be careful not get hurt on the flanks. Robben and Ribery will cause huge problems unless the Chelsea full-backs get help from the midfield. Jose Bosingwa, the likely right-back, could be especially vulnerable. A key strategy has been to "overload" certain areas, with Robben, Lahm, Mueller and Ribery attacking the same side, for example. Chelsea need to be mentally alert to pick up those runners - even if they look like going nowhere at first. Mario Gomez will never win a beauty contest, as far as his playing style goes. But 41 goals in all competitions, 12 of them in the Champions League, make him the key dangerman. Gomez is an opportunist, a striker who sniffs out chances and pops up at the right time in the right place. Technically, he is not the best but he scores with every, legal, part of his body, a bit like Gerd Mueller used to do. For a man of his size, Gomez isn't actually that physical. He does not enjoy playing against big, strong centre-backs and is not always as involved as he should be. If Chelsea can keep him quiet, they will have a good chance of lifting the cup as Bayern have little by way of alternatives on the bench. Bayern's game is based on possession but with Mueller in the side they do not keep the ball as effectively. Chelsea must concentrate on the "turn-over", winning the ball deep and then breaking very quickly to bypass Bayern's midfield. The experience of the German Cup final might make Heynckes' men just a little more cautious, especially without a proven ball winner in midfield. Chelsea should be able to exploit that element of hesitation by isolating Robben and Ribery on the wings and cutting off the supply to Mueller, the link-up man for Gomez. The first goal in a game is always important in a Champions League final. Bayern, however, need it more than most teams: they only managed to win one game all season after conceding first, if you exclude the semi-final win at Real Madrid on penalties. Once they are behind, Robben and Ribery often show impatience and Gomez, especially, is vulnerable to mood swings when things are not going for him. Bayern players have dismissed the idea that the final being at home puts more pressure on them, but a good section of the crowd will certainly get restless if Chelsea are standing strong. There is also a danger that not-so-hidden rifts inside the dressing room might come to the fore again. The longer Chelsea can keep the score level, the more Bayern will be affected mentally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserJon 12,393 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Do not support either side am just hoping for a good game. Am watching it with a Man Utd fan, a Liverpool fan and a German( The missus/Frau ).All three want a Bayern win for different reasons. I just want a good game. She normally supports KSC, a team just relegated to the third tier of German football, and would normally detest Bayern but as they represent her country puts that to one side. Its odd then that the other two are really behind Bayern based on club rivalries alone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 10 quid on bayern -2 I think I'll put on Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxo1873 201 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 If Drogba is on top form (which i hope he is) this is Chelseas cup. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,484 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Alaba and Badstuber are huge losses but Bayerns attack is too strong.NeuerLahm Boateng Van Buyten ContentoTymoshuk SchweinsteigerRobben-------Kroos-------RiberyGomezThat's the team I think bayern will play. Tymo helping out the defence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,874 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Alaba and Badstuber are huge losses but Bayerns attack is too strong.NeuerLahm Boateng Van Buyten ContentoTymoshuk SchweinsteigerRobben-------Kroos-------RiberyGomezThat's the team I think bayern will play. Tymo helping out the defence.---------------------Cech--------------------Bossingwa------Luiz------Cahill----------ColeSturridge------Lampard------Mikel------Kalou-------------------------Mata---------------------------------------------Drogba--------------I think this could be Chelsea's line up with maybe Essien coming in for DS.Bossingwa is a real worry though, bombscare at the back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlands plater 16,975 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Has there been much of a clamour for tickets from Chelsea fans? Ridiculous prices being demanded and paid on Ebay?Genuine question. I'm curious to know if they really need a 60,000 capacity stadium in the long term or if a lot of their support these days are temporarily attracted by Abramovich's money. If they have a lot of real fans there will be a colossal demand for tickets for this final, Munich is a lot more accessible than Moscow was last time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueboy94 54 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Logic suggests that Bayern should rape Chelsea, but I've still got a feeling that Chelsea might do something special... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithgersbear 3,225 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 #pray4bayern Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,484 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 I expect a lot of goals with the defences. If Chelsea decide to sit back again and try to hit on the break we will destroy them I reckon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
offminorthreat 1,463 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 I have a tenner on a Gomez hat trick at 35/1. To be honest Chelsea are my EPL team and my father's team was always Bayern so i am pumped to watch a good game as a "neutral but passive supporter of each team". Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCR1 1,502 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Has there been much of a clamour for tickets from Chelsea fans? Ridiculous prices being demanded and paid on Ebay?Genuine question. I'm curious to know if they really need a 60,000 capacity stadium in the long term or if a lot of their support these days are temporarily attracted by Abramovich's money. If they have a lot of real fans there will be a colossal demand for tickets for this final, Munich is a lot more accessible than Moscow was last time.Guy on ssn said the ticket application was 10x what was available Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdunsmb 43 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 I'd play:CechBosingwa Cahill Luiz ColeMikel LampardKalou Mata MaloudaDrogbaIf Malouda is injured, then Sturridge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Sam Matterface on Talksport saying Ryan Bertrand is set to start for Chelsea on the left wing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon-the-Stripe 2,459 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Hoping for a Chelsea win, the head says Bayern but somehow i think Chelsea's name is on the cup, gonna go for 2 - 1 The Blues!Lads weekend away to watch it, on the piss from 12 o'clock tomorrow should be amazing if Chelsea pull it off. Rangers shirt will be on Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza27 15,283 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 chelsea 2-1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,874 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Bossingwa is a bomb scare, I watched him against Liverpool in the final and honestly think he could lose this game for Chelsea if he plays like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broxi 11,484 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Bossingwa is a bomb scare, I watched him against Liverpool in the final and honestly think he could lose this game for Chelsea if he plays like that.It's only Ribery he has to deal with though... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather 71,874 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 It's only Ribery he has to deal with though... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalton 1,192 Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 CHELSEA the only real club we have an affinity to and its from the early seventies There is a bond through time that people can dismiss but for the old guard it has not changed that for some reason our fans from the early seventies had this allegiance we play in blue and the famous chelsea song of the time Blue Is The Colour Football is the game and we,re all together and winning is our aim I have mixed feelings as Bayern munich are a fantastic team and the people i have been to munich on a few occasions and they are like glesca people they will look after people.But for once i hope the underdog in Chelsea win and not for terry or abromvich- but for di mattio - avrun grant - ancelotti - my son (chelsea fanatic he supported living in england since the days that kerry dixon & Pat nevin etc when they were crap Bayern have the home fans but chelsea have the never say die blues brothers spirit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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