Vanguard Bears - just who are they?

[Gaz92 966]

The thing is, and you can obviously choose to take this on board or not, the club and fans are under attack, and there are political agendas behind it, as well as deep seated religious hatred of our club by people who believe us to have an anti-catholic bias, and want us closed down altogether.

We have to meet these people head on, and face them down with hard facts. They are hate-filled bigots, with a non-sporting agenda, and thats how we must react. We are larger in number than the enemy, smarter, and ultimately, in the right.

If I have to batter sense into someone with a hardback copy of The Bible, so be it. I'll use it to roll a joint when I am finished. As long as Rangers are ok, I'm good.

Do you follow The Rangers Standard as well? Fantastic, intellectual pieces fighting against those with agendas against us with barely a mention of politics or religion between the articles.

With a bit of work and publicity I think this could be a wonderful way of defending our club without compromising views/religion/politics - just through a love of The Rangers. We have got some great thinkers amongst our support who could come together to create something special.

[WVB 2,560]

I'm beginning to think WVB's a closet christian.

If thats what it takes to vanquish the bheast, then I'm John 3:16 all the way.

[WVB 2,560]

What is this way of life the VB are protecting?

Every other Saturday for a start.

[outlaw69uk 123]

Of course he does, All Rangers fans count.

Don't be getting upset, I am sure he can come on and give me some lip back, he and I have previous, and disagree on most things, but last time I saw he still had something I said to him in one of our debates about 3 years ago as part of his sig. I will say things to him, I won't say to others, as I know how he will take it

[OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475]

Good post mate, I enjoyed reading that

The VB are fantastic and I can't praise them enough unlike other so called fans who do nothing but criticise and do fuck all to defend our club

So called fans?

[outlaw69uk 123]

Can't buy it myself. If I had to email an admin or someone I didn't know to become a member of a website it most certainly wouldn't be for me straight away.

You are still labouring under the false notion that it's "just another website" when it's been said many times its not

[Stoorie 1,088]

Can't buy it myself. If I had to email an admin or someone I didn't know to become a member of a website it most certainly wouldn't be for me straight away.

How did you join RM?

I'm sure I had to sign up with my E-mail details, and when I read the rules, it said you should introduce yourself.

Maybe try that.

[outlaw69uk 123]

The thing is, and you can obviously choose to take this on board or not, the club and fans are under attack, and there are political agendas behind it, as well as deep seated religious hatred of our club by people who believe us to have an anti-catholic bias, and want us closed down altogether.

We have to meet these people head on, and face them down with hard facts. They are hate-filled bigots, with a non-sporting agenda, and thats how we must react. We are larger in number than the enemy, smarter, and ultimately, in the right.

If I have to batter sense into someone with a hardback copy of The Bible, so be it. I'll use it to roll a joint when I am finished. As long as Rangers are ok, I'm good.

What the hell is wrong with you tonight? Lucid, coherent, making sense??? Damn

[Gaz92 966]

Rangers are more than a club.

Its an Institution a way of life.

I think you should say all of what you said above to any Londonderry man women and child who cant even wear their beloved football teams top in their city centre.

Then you come back to me and say that

Ho hum, you're not really getting my arguments are you?

That should be the job of the Government of Northern Ireland to sort out. It's an extremely sad situation that people still live like this. I wouldn't even argue if Rangers fans wanted to do somethng to try and help the situation of these people. Does that mean that certain fans of the club should be made to feel isolated? No it certainly should not.

[PRW. 5,631]

Good post mate, I enjoyed reading that

The VB are fantastic and I can't praise them enough unlike other so called fans who do nothing but criticise and do fuck all to defend our club

Bang on.

[WVB 2,560]

Do you follow The Rangers Standard as well? Fantastic, intellectual pieces fighting against those with agendas against us with barely a mention of politics or religion between the articles.

With a bit of work and publicity I think this could be a wonderful way of defending our club without compromising views/religion/politics - just through a love of The Rangers. We have got some great thinkers amongst our support who could come together to create something special.

We have something special already. The Rangers support.

[cstamomusa 3,809]

I'm beginning to think WVB's a closet christian.

I'm thinking he has Stockholm syndrome.

[*Manticore* 1,893]

If thats what it takes to vanquish the bheast, then I'm John 3:16 all the way.

Don't worry, your secret's safe with me.

[Gaz92 966]

You are still labouring under the false notion that it's "just another website" when it's been said many times its not

And how am I supposed to know that if I can't see it? All I know is there a forum that I can't access as it's blocked off to the public, and therefore I feel it's completely inaccessible.

[Gaz92 966]

How did you join RM?

I'm sure I had to sign up with my E-mail details, and when I read the rules, it said you should introduce yourself.

Maybe try that.

I submitted my email address, yes, I wasn't strip searched at the door though.

[WVB 2,560]

I'm thinking he has Stockholm syndrome.

I do like Swedish burds!

Not in a Jimmy savile way though.

[Gaz92 966]

We have something special already. The Rangers support.

Which is quite clearly divided in many ways, with the VB being quite staunchly on one side of the divide.

With unity, we can be fantastic as we've shown this season, we need to do that outside of the ground aswell.

[Loyalist_RFC 222]

Ho hum, you're not really getting my arguments are you?

That should be the job of the Government of Northern Ireland to sort out. It's an extremely sad situation that people still live like this. I wouldn't even argue if Rangers fans wanted to do somethng to try and help the situation of these people. Does that mean that certain fans of the club should be made to feel isolated? No it certainly should not.

You have seemed to lose the point that you where trying to make in the first place.

And i only answered it with one situation believe it or not theres countless of more situations where Rangers are more than just a football club.

As i said its an Institution a way of life and to be correct a way of expressing our nation and Britishness as a whole.

You just have to look across to the other side to see their vile terrorist loving traditions.

[outlaw69uk 123]

Ho hum, you're not really getting my arguments are you?

That should be the job of the Government of Northern Ireland to sort out. It's an extremely sad situation that people still live like this. I wouldn't even argue if Rangers fans wanted to do somethng to try and help the situation of these people. Does that mean that certain fans of the club should be made to feel isolated? No it certainly should not.

Why do you feel isolated? The only reason you have to feel that way is by not being a member if a private forum.

Over the last few years, the only set of rangers fans that people have tried to isolate and push out, are the more traditionalist fans. Which is wrong.

The simple facts are that all fans, regardless of beliefs, should have a common goal, and that is the club vein successful. Simple! But as with most things, people who are anti religion, anti politics etc are the noisiest, and have a deep need to be heard, much like anti smokers. People who are anti always have a deep rooted need to try and make their way right. You tend to find those who are not, are less so

[WVB 2,560]

I'm thinking he has Stockholm syndrome.

WARNING!!! FEMALE IS "THINKING"

THIS IS NOT A DRILL.

EVACUATE THE SITE.

[outlaw69uk 123]

Do you follow The Rangers Standard as well? Fantastic, intellectual pieces fighting against those with agendas against us with barely a mention of politics or religion between the articles.

With a bit of work and publicity I think this could be a wonderful way of defending our club without compromising views/religion/politics - just through a love of The Rangers. We have got some great thinkers amongst our support who could come together to create something special.

No, not really because I think it's a good idea badly executed. If you think it's not political, you are mistaken. Most of the time, trs avoids major topics that their platform could give them, in order to cultivate their msm connections. It's a shame, I thought Chris Graham's early blogs showed so so much promise as well.

I far prefer reading D'artagnan and Bill McMurdo for articles that really address the more important topics

[Gaz92 966]

You have seemed to lose the point that you where trying to make in the first place.

And i only answered it with one situation believe it or not theres countless of more situations where Rangers are more than just a football club.

As i said its an Institution a way of life and to be correct a way of expressing our nation and Britishness as a whole.

You just have to look across to the other side to see their vile terrorist loving traditions.

This has nothing to do with "the vile terrorists across the city".

Where do I doubt that Rangers are significantly more than a club? They're a way of life for me as well, I just keep my politics and religion outside of the club and my support.

I struggle to believe that a club should be based on political or religious values, which the VB clearly do, but I believe there is no reason why the two have to go hand in hand in the modern world.

[MosesMcNeil 1,664]

Thats a political speech hidden inside comments about supporting Rangers - nothing more - nothing less - Football,andRangers would be a lot better if people took the politics and religion out of sport.

Having considered your response, I was initially struggling to find a suitable reply.

Then it came to me - fuck off.

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We're now on course for 4 locked threads regarding VB in approx 24 hours, time to call it a day here it appears....

[Gaz92 966]

No, not really because I think it's a good idea badly executed. If you think it's not political, you are mistaken. Most of the time, trs avoids major topics that their platform could give them, in order to cultivate their msm connections. It's a shame, I thought Chris Graham's early blogs showed so so much promise as well.

An example of something they're missing out on?