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Don't know if you're on Twitter but if you are then give @RangersFacts a follow. Fantastic blog and regular fascinating tweets about our history. Garry writes for us at TRS occasionally and everything he's done has been brilliant.

Will check it out. Well Fury ,how do you think the new season will pan out for us.?Personally I am really looking forward to it and I hope Ally turns things around from last season. I think we have a squad that would do well in the premier league although not good enough to win it. Lets hope that we get entertained this season.

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Is the Kindle version not an instantaneous download?

Indeed it is. We're currently #1 in Kindle football book orders so that process seems to be working well.

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I'm just showing that hand-wringing can apply to other contexts.

I've said fuck all about your book bar ask when it was on iBooks who contributed and who had chapters

The Kinnon bloke has produced some great stuff whereas Gow, IMO, is not someone I will ever have much in common with.

I ask someone who has read it what the balance was.

End of

If I desire the need to slate anyone I won't be cryptic about it

Ffs

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I've said fuck all about your book bar ask when it was on iBooks who contributed and who had chapters

The Kinnon bloke has produced some great stuff whereas Gow, IMO, is not someone I will ever have much in common with.

I ask someone who has read it what the balance was.

End of

If I desire the need to slate anyone I won't be cryptic about it

Ffs

Criticise all you like but the hand-wringing stuff is unhelpful and generally petty. Why would you want another bear who has just said he's enjoyed the book to use such divisive terms?

I really don't see why people can't disagree with other fans' opinions without resorting to the school-yard.

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Got it ordered last night on kindle, and it was there in.........oh, seconds. These guys don't half type fast.

Excellent so far, but making my blood boil too.

Most points raised so far are exactly how I felt at the time, and still do.

Glad you're enjoying it. Some parts do make for difficult reading and obviously we don't expect everyone to agree with the opinions offered but I think it's a fair reflection of the frustrations we all felt during the last two years.

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Criticise all you like but the hand-wringing stuff is unhelpful and generally petty. Why would you want another bear who has just said he's enjoyed the book to use such divisive terms?

I really don't see why people can't disagree with other fans' opinions without resorting to the school-yard.

It's a simple descriptive phrase recognised within the Internet community of rangers fans

Running a forum I'm sure you know that

Next time I will ask for a 6000 word dissertation

Ps I never criticised I asked a question

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Criticise all you like but the hand-wringing stuff is unhelpful and generally petty. Why would you want another bear who has just said he's enjoyed the book to use such divisive terms?

I really don't see why people can't disagree with other fans' opinions without resorting to the school-yard.

Julio certain post coming from you this evening show that you are no stranger to the schoolyard

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It's a simple descriptive phrase recognised within the Internet community of rangers fans

Running a forum I'm sure you know that

Next time I will ask for a 6000 dissertation

Yes it is. It's also insulting, childish and negative. 6000 words not needed.

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Will check it out. Well Fury ,how do you think the new season will pan out for us.?Personally I am really looking forward to it and I hope Ally turns things around from last season. I think we have a squad that would do well in the premier league although not good enough to win it. Lets hope that we get entertained this season.

I'm excited to see some of the new boys. Squad is far too big but hopefully we will see a few leave. Good to see Durrant acknowledge that there are no excuses this year. Good pre season, good backing in terms of signings. Would love a cup run but let's just see how things go. I can't wait to get back to Ibrox, sure I'm not alone!

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frankly frankie, you can't take a point of view that goes against yours.......The fact that all the co authors are buddies leads to the question, will they be telling the same viewpoint as opposed to say.........some other blogger having an input that may shed a viewpoint outwith the guys that tend to be friends.

Go back over my posts I put questions that many would ask.......eg is it not strange to have one of the co authors acting as editor, in that he will be reading others work and have his own set thoughts on the subject matter as he is as mentioned a co author.

Also the Uni Prof............I was rebuffed in that, this guy is a specialist.........well I asked if he was privvy to information re our old Ltd Co and was he involved in the actual administration process or merely passing a personal opinion.............was he a friendly voice, that was the point I was making.

Re this shit about friends, he mentioned that Kinnon was a friend re the business scenario I merely picked that up from other posters. But once again frankie you come riding to the rescue...................why did you not ride to the rescue when this particular individual tears into posters s tims, arch idiots and have mental problems and they must be going through a breakdown.................noticeable by your absence there frankie

You and your buddy come on and punt your sales pitches.........no problem with that, but when challenged you do take the childish stance, go read my posts to your buddy nd then tell me , are they not vlid points and if not give me your reasons.

It's a forum for god sake and if you can't get your head round that your not flavour of the month with certain topics then man up and take it.

I await your response to your wounded frien who seems hurt and to your answer re his tantrums re name calling.

Lol.

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Yes it is. It's also insulting, childish and negative. 6000 words not needed.

Ive been working since 7 am this morning and just got in at 9 pm and I am knackered. Think I will go to bed and read my old New Era book .Happy days sure enough. Goodnight children, dont let the bed bugs bite.

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Julio certain post coming from you this evening show that you are no stranger to the schoolyard

Julio? Lol.

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I've said fuck all about your book bar ask when it was on iBooks who contributed and who had chapters

The Kinnon bloke has produced some great stuff whereas Gow, IMO, is not someone I will ever have much in common with.

I ask someone who has read it what the balance was.

End of

If I desire the need to slate anyone I won't be cryptic about it

Ffs

Maybe you should read his chapter and then decide. You know what you have in common? He's a Rangers fan.

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Maybe you should read his chapter and then decide. You know what you have in common? He's a Rangers fan.

What do you make of Harris's resignation letter, you think it is factual.

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I believe it is time that someone clarified exactly what has been going on with the financial affairs of Rangers Supporters Trust (RST).

The Board of RST had an opportunity to make full disclosure of the matters that I will explain below in the Accounts or at the AGM last Sunday, 19 September 2010. They failed to take either of these opportunities.

I was elected to the Board of RST at the 2009 AGM and appointed as Secretary on 13 February 2010. I resigned as Secretary on 12 August 2010. I remain a member of the Board.

It is the Secretary’s duty to sign the Accounts on behalf of the Board. I refused to sign the Accounts for the year ended 5 April 2010.

I had prepared a statement to read at the AGM but the Acting Chair refused to let me read it out. I asked RST to publish that statement on Thursday of this past week but they refused because the final version of the auditor’s management letter differs from the one quoted in my statement.

I have kept my own counsel on these matters since the AGM but now feel compelled to make these matters known because I consider it my duty as a Director:

1. To explain to the members what happened to their money.

2. To clarify and correct some ambiguous and inaccurate comments that the current Treasurer, Christine Somerville (plgsarmy) has made on this web site.

3. To explain why I resigned as Secretary.

Other than Christine I do not know the identity of anyone on this site. The only reason that I am posting this statement on this site is that last Tuesday a friend drew my attention to the thread about the RST AGM. Since then I have become increasingly frustrated by the speculation surrounding these events and my role in them. As RST have refused to publish my statement I will publish it on a separate thread. This will explain the reason for my resignation as Secretary. However you may be interested in the background to these events.

At a meeting with the auditors that I attended on 4 August 2010 along with the Treasurer, Christine Somerville and the Treasurer elect, Alison Mueller, Christine stated that sometime between September and November 2008, two cheques were issued to RST by followfollow.com totalling £2,690. These cheques bounced. The monies were not fully repaid (bar £30 still outstanding at the financial year end) until March 2010. This means that followfollow.com had a free loan of Trust monies for the best part of 18 months.

Christine has stated in a post on this web site “it was paid off, the majority a few months later”. This would depend on your definition of “a few months”. In fact none of the debt had been paid off by 5 April 2009.

Christine has also stated in another post on this web site “However, to be clear, this was not a loan, interest free or otherwise. Knowing the circumstances, our auditors were very clear about that.” Christine is mistaken. The auditors categorised the debt as a loan in their management letter of 10 August 2010 and did so again (twice) when RST put my AGM statement to them this week. The auditors are correct.

In fact the first draft of the Auditor’s management letter issued on 9 August 2010 referred only to:

• Losses on functions.

• Lack of control over expenditure.

• Failure to maintain an up to date share register.

In my opinion as Secretary the debt gave rise to breaches of Rule 6 regarding the application of our profits and Rules 74 & 75 which refer to conflicts of material financial interest.

In the circumstances, I was very surprised that the auditors had not even mentioned the debt and other important matters in their letter so I sent them an email on 9 August 2010 in which I reminded them of:

"• Income & Expenditure being received and paid by outside organisations e.g. Erskine Appeal, Sam English Committee, Follow Follow.

• The high number of cash transactions and instances where cash income is not banked at all but used to make payments.

• The difficulty of allocating income from incomplete records - all income should be banked by the Treasurer in my opinion.

• The debt from unpaid cheques last year, which as far as I can understand arose from some combination of the first two factors mentioned above, which means that there were breaches of Rule 6, 74 & 75 at least until the debt(s) were cleared this year."

I copied this email to Christine and Alison and neither responded to me.

The auditors stated that they were happy to include the additional points and revised their draft to include comments on all these matters as set out in the Statement that I was not allowed to read at the AGM. I attached a copy of the auditor’s revised draft to the resignation email that I sent to all members of the Board on 12 August 2010.

On Thursday last, the Interim Secretary advised me that subsequently the auditors dropped the reference to the loan in the final version of their letter based on the legal advice received by the Board. I have asked for sight of the legal advice but this has not been forthcoming. They also dropped all references to the cash transactions; no explanation has been given for that, so one can only speculate as to the reasons for the auditors actions in that respect.

It should be noted that the Auditor’s Report issued with the Accounts states that in their opinion the financial statements give a true and fair view of the Society’s affairs as at 5 April 2010.

I hope I have clarified these matters but I will do my best to answer any further questions that arise. There are some other inaccuracies and questions posed in the RST AGM thread that I will try to answer as well.

Alan S Harris

26 September 2010.

Holy fuck!!

You said you are still on the board?

Am I right in saying that money from clients has been useduby "someone" and paid back with monies from Follow Follow and money that was due to go to Erskine?

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What on earth does a RST resignation from a few years ago got to do with this book?

Brilliant innit? Same cast of characters every thread.

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Brilliant innit? Same cast of characters every thread.

Yes I think other RM users are noticing that fact. Walter and his cronies over every thread where Rangers fans are actually doing something. We do not need to agree with what others are doing but criticism for the sake of it look churlish.

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Brilliant innit? Same cast of characters every thread.

:7325: just had a vision of you and frankie boy sitting side by side as you type away :7325: oh frankie, that's ever so funny.

We will meet of that I am sure of :cgreen:

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:7325: just had a vision of you and frankie boy sitting side by side as you type away :7325: oh frankie, that's ever so funny.

We will meet of that I am sure of :cgreen:

I have no interest in meeting you, going for a pint or anything else. I've made it clear several times. What do you not understand about that?

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