BLUEDIGNITY 33,610 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 You'll have to excuse me I'm watching The Fast And The Furious on Dave. Great film. Paul Walker R.I.P. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Nose 10 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Well the good news is that, regardless of the violence and terrorism, the actions of these people certainly resulted in a South Africa that is a far better place to live these days, i mean it's virtually crime free and mindless violence is a thing of the past, and all blacks who were previously disadvantaged now have so many opportunities. It is most certainly not the case that it's only the politicians with questionable backgrounds who are thriving, right?I would say South Africa is a far better place to live for the black community, don't you agree? cattled used to get treated better than black people.as for the rest, you'd have a good point if i was trying to suggest it has turned into some leading nations everyone should inspire to.But i wasn't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyc06 6,902 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Whether you like it or not, the whole world is united in its public praise of Mandela.If there is one single flicker of disrespect shown in Ibrox tomorrow (which is inevitable), we will get battered from pillar to post over it, and this time it won't just be Scotland, because the whole world will see it as disrespectful. So if we don't want to become public enemy number one tomorrow, then we need to use a bit of Realpolitik.I advocate that irrespective of your personal feelings or opinions, you should just bite your tongue, and comply with the general consensus. You may want to argue that that is the coward's way out, and you have to stand up for your principles.I'd counter that with "stop being a pompous arse and don't f*****g harm my club tomorrow."If someone comes to Ibrox who totally opposes all our principles, we still expect them to respect and observe our traditions, so we should do the same tomorrow.Thanks for listening. Why exactly should people participate in something they don't believe in purely because it is of popular opinion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Why exactly should people participate in something they don't believe in purely because it is of popular opinion?Because otherwise they will destroy you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jela 20,017 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 In honour of Mandela we should take the minute to commit an act of terrorism and blow up a bus full of innocents, maybe even one of our supporters buses ? The old cunt can rot in hell next to Jock Stein Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyc06 6,902 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Because otherwise they destroy you.Doing something you don't believe in destroys yourself! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Doing something you don't believe in destroys yourself!Yet somehow you manage to do a million things you don't believe in every waking moment of every day for your whole life. Bothwellbear 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 No thanks. SE5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoorie 1,088 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 My hands will be in my pockets and I'll be chatting to my mates, waiting for the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 2,947 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Did I miss something, why would any right thinking individual hate Mandela?His party campaigned within the law until it was banned, when 69 people were gunned down? If tyranny and injustice ever befalls this land, I hope to fuck some on this thread have more balls than they are showing now.I can just imagine an independent Scotland voting to oust the Queen, criminalising the right to wave the Union flag and disbanding Rangers as a subvertive force within a free Scotland. And all the Bears on here slating Mandela will bow down and agree because that is the rule of the land. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE5 107 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 No thanks.I was just about to post this pic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 2,947 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Bothwellbear, *Manticore* and radlord 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOAT 30,449 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Did I miss something, why would any right thinking individual hate Mandela?His party campaigned within the law until it was banned, when 69 people were gunned down? If tyranny and injustice ever befalls this land, I hope to fuck some on this thread have more balls than they are showing now.I can just imagine an independent Scotland voting to oust the Queen, criminalising the right to wave the Union flag and disbanding Rangers as a subvertive force within a free Scotland. And all the Bears on here slating Mandela will bow down and agree because that is the rule of the land."my position is that you don't hand over your weapons until you get what you want... "Fuck him. I couldn't give a flying fuck what he done in his own country, it's the company he's kept in my country that makes my opinion of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christchurch Rangers 1,229 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Whether you like it or not, the whole world is united in its public praise of Mandela.IncorrectI for one haven't been giving mandela any praise public or otherwisepersonally I dont think Mandela should be given a minutes applause at a football game; not that I like or dislike the guy, I just don't think this sort of stuff should be forced upon people at football gamesgo have a wee clap in the privacy of your own wardrobe if its that important to you but leave it out of football SE5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christchurch Rangers 1,229 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 and pus you gotta admit, Mandela has some shady "friends"...and I'm not talking about skin colour Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoorie 1,088 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Did I miss something, why would any right thinking individual hate Mandela?His party campaigned within the law until it was banned, when 69 people were gunned down? If tyranny and injustice ever befalls this land, I hope to fuck some on this thread have more balls than they are showing now.I can just imagine an independent Scotland voting to oust the Queen, criminalising the right to wave the Union flag and disbanding Rangers as a subvertive force within a free Scotland. And all the Bears on here slating Mandela will bow down and agree because that is the rule of the land.Yes.You missed quite a lot.Like the history of the ANC in South Africa and beyond, and who Mr Mandela was before he was jailed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amafa majeed 0 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Blue is the colour Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 2,947 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 IncorrectI for one haven't been giving mandela any praise public or otherwisepersonally I dont think Mandela should be given a minutes applause at a football game; not that I like or dislike the guy, I just don't think this sort of stuff should be forced upon people at football gamesgo have a wee clap in the privacy of your own wardrobe if its that important to you but leave it out of footballMate, the whole world is observing some form of respect for him. A similar line is used by the filth not to observe Armistice Day.I fully accept people's right not to take part and would defend them for it, I just hope noone is going to disrupt it with booing or jeering or banners or some other fucking moronic display in front of the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christchurch Rangers 1,229 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I fully accept people's right not to take part and would defend them for it, I just hope noone is going to disrupt it with booing or jeering or banners or some other fucking moronic display in front of the world.I hope not tooIf you don't want to partake then that's fine but don't be an egg about it either: it's just not worth the grief it will bring to the club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 2,947 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Yes.You missed quite a lot.Like the history of the ANC in South Africa and beyond, and who Mr Mandela was before he was jailed.A Lawyer? Anyway. Some people obviously believe that regardless of the level of injustice, we should always accept the authority of those in power.Why do people get so upset over the SFA and SPL then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLE SUPER WILBERT 2,475 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Blue is the colourVery suspect username.Dufus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madina 3,722 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I go to games to watch Rangers win, not to take part in endless amounts of silences/applauses for any old tom, dick or harry. Fair enough if its for an ex player of ours, but for EVERY high profile person that dies?! MasterD 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Did I miss something, why would any right thinking individual hate Mandela?His party campaigned within the law until it was banned, when 69 people were gunned down? If tyranny and injustice ever befalls this land, I hope to fuck some on this thread have more balls than they are showing now.I can just imagine an independent Scotland voting to oust the Queen, criminalising the right to wave the Union flag and disbanding Rangers as a subvertive force within a free Scotland. And all the Bears on here slating Mandela will bow down and agree because that is the rule of the land.Mate, it's ridiculous:Mandela fought against his state power. Irrespective of how despicable that state was, he had no right to object to or resist the torture, murder and abuse of the majority (and rightful) inhabitants, through the only means available (protest, opposition and voting were all banned)Therefore he's a terroristTherefore he's the same as the IRAWe hate the Ira ergo we hate Mandela.SimpleHere are some other terrorists we hate...The Dalai LamaEmmeline PankhurstWinston Churchill (go read your history folks)George WashingtonChe GuevaraFidel CastroCharles De GaulleGiuseppe GaribaldiKemal AtaturkOh and let's not forget Von Stauffenberg - what a bastard he was.All I can say is thank god it's a clap, and not a silence.Some of you may consider a compromise, by looking as if you're clapping, whilst chanting "F** Nelson Mand He's Deid" under your breath? Professor Moriarty 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 No thanks.Bad choice of friends if you ask me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
govanblue 16,847 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 IncorrectI for one haven't been giving mandela any praise public or otherwisepersonally I dont think Mandela should be given a minutes applause at a football game; not that I like or dislike the guy, I just don't think this sort of stuff should be forced upon people at football gamesgo have a wee clap in the privacy of your own wardrobe if its that important to you but leave it out of footballNot incorrect - you've maybe missed the implication of the bits I bolded.Just like the whole country mourned Diana.Not everybody did, but everybody put on a face of doing so.Personally I agree with you, and don't want to go along with it, but the whole world will be doing it, and to not do it when we are so obviously going to be closely scrutinised, would be like standing on the stage at Live Aid and saying - "let the wee bastards die."Our enemies have got both barrels well and truly pointed our way on this one, and the phrase that comes to mind is "don't give them the ammunition" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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