European Commission seek explanation on Celtic land deals

[Brubear 2,920]

Where's the deeds - ................ In life what would be worse a financial doper or a f***ing tim.

Simple - Worst would be a "financial doping f**^ing tim"

[j1mgg 3,766]

What could be the outcome of this?

Is it a SFA docking points, a fine, paying fare value for the land, all three

[JäGERmeister 33]

The land deals are probably correctly the main focus, but GCC should be looked at right down the number of functions they have at Parkhead and wether or not market rates were paid for the use of those facilities.

[topgoalie 637]

Why is this in the Bears Dden?

Some people are getting obsessed with this mhob, who gives a fuck?

Put the shoe on the other foot mate,and they would be onto this faster than a bullet out a gun......

[Brackley 1,401]

BBC website now reporting this. Looks like the tide is finally turning.

[better than all the rest 153]

Anything on the main stv or bbc news about this, I am down south this week so can't see anything.

[Bobby Hume 13,040]

"Come gather round Timmigrants, where ever you roam.

And accept that the waters around you have grown,

And accept that soon you'll be drenched to the bone,

As the battle outside is ragin,

It'll rattle your windows and shatter your doors,

For the times they are a changin."

I don't think Mr Zimmerman will mind that i changed a word (however distasteful) in his little ditty.

PS sorry double post.

[Bluejon 47]

There may be a wee while to go on this story, time wise, but if they do get caught out, does anyone know what punishments they can receive? Any chance of them being booted down to the bottom division for instance?

We can only live in hope.

Initial 'punishment' would be a return of the outstanding balance between the purchase cost and true valuation, plus interest. Add to that the UEFA investigation which would follow as to the 'unfair' advantage they received, due to receiving State-Aid, over other European teams. This could result in a demand for the return of all CL monies received during the years they are found guilty of receiving the state-aid.

There would then have to be an investigation by the SFA/SPFL, to decide if they had any 'Sporting Advantage' as a result of their 'illegal' state-aid.

Then, seeing as their Share-value has changed due to the unfair financial deals they received from the Co-op/Labour Party, they would have to be investigated by the AIM, which could result in their shares being suspended.

Other than that, not a lot

[Blue Nosed Babe 20,601]

And while this all rumbles on we can call them all the cheats under the sun etc.

I like my revenge ice cold.

[Frank Reynolds 3,359]

Initial 'punishment' would be a return of the outstanding balance between the purchase cost and true valuation, plus interest. Add to that the UEFA investigation which would follow as to the 'unfair' advantage they received, due to receiving State-Aid, over other European teams. This could result in a demand for the return of all CL monies received during the years they are found guilty of receiving the state-aid.

There would then have to be an investigation by the SFA/SPFL, to decide if they had any 'Sporting Advantage' as a result of their 'illegal' state-aid.

Then, seeing as their Share-value has changed due to the unfair financial deals they received from the Co-op/Labour Party, they would have to be investigated by the AIM, which could result in their shares being suspended.

Other than that, not a lot

All the while, starting life again in the 3rd Division

Oh how we can hope

[The Educator 1,572]

"What could be the outcome of this?

Is it a SFA docking points, a fine, paying fare value for the land, all three"

Considering that the lynch mob fronted by sometime lawyer, sometime low level paper gatherer Fat Rod proposed the loss of titles and trophies for charges of cheating and financial doping that were made against Rangers. Charges that their own investigation proved to be false, I would say that a precedent a been set as to the punishments they should face. If it was proven that they have benefited from these deals I would indeed be a form of financial doping that would have given them a financial benefit on the pitch.

[coop troop 106]

Why is this in the Bears Dden?

Some people are getting obsessed with this mhob, who gives a fuck?

Why is he in the Bears Den?

Some people can't help but obsess over their deluded concept of self importance. Who gives a fuck what your kind say?

[mabawsa 888]

The land deals are probably correctly the main focus, but GCC should be looked at right down the number of functions they have at Parkhead and wether or not market rates were paid for the use of those facilities.

The Education department specifically. Conference spend in 12 months was near 100K. Guess who got nearly 99K of that? ...c'mon. Guess!

[TAFKA 545]

And while this all rumbles on we can call them all the cheats under the sun etc.

I like my revenge ice cold.

Perhaps the sweetest aspect of all.

How many times have we, collectively and individually, had to have "cheat" thrown at us?

If we do nothing else while the wheels of justice are turning, we must, from this point onward refer to Celtic simply as "cheats"

Great point BNB

[coop troop 106]

"What could be the outcome of this?

Is it a SFA docking points, a fine, paying fare value for the land, all three"

Considering that the lynch mob fronted by sometime lawyer, sometime low level paper gatherer Fat Rod proposed the loss of titles and trophies for charges of cheating and financial doping that were made against Rangers. Charges that their own investigation proved to be false, I would say that a precedent a been set as to the punishments they should face. If it was proven that they have benefited from these deals I would indeed be a form of financial doping that would have given them a financial benefit on the pitch.

Exactly.

Had this come out before our issues NOTHING would have been done. But they made a rod for their own backs, precedents have been set. Standards defined...

Why else did the scum hire a new fandango litigation lawyer not that long ago...

The very least that should happen is us paying for a huge billboard and making the public aware of where their tax pounds are going.... That would make the press. Just maybe not in fat Sam's rhepublican black hole to oblivion

[Carling1873 1,404]

Bheast make official statement:

"IN response to stories in today’s media concerning Celtic the club has released the following statement.

‘Celtic Football Club operates to the highest standards and with the utmost integrity. At a time when the Club is committed to investing in and improving areas around Celtic Park, not only for Celtic supporters but for the benefit of the local community, it is sad that these baseless accusations have been raised with the European Commission.

´Any suggestion that Celtic has been the beneficiary of state aid is preposterous - as ludicrous as any suggestion that we have benefited from soft loans from our bankers. The historic transactions referred to were negotiated with the Council on commercial terms at market rates.

´The Club will assist the Commission fully with the process and will not be deterred from our work to improve our local area."´

Looks like their delegation could not persuade the Eurpean Commision not to take this further, sound like investigation underway!!!

[j1mgg 3,766]

Small snippet on BBC 1, the midfielder that was charged, McGowan got more air time

[1st_Jan_1994 4,868]

Amazing that BBC reporting it

[better than all the rest 153]

Amazing that BBC reporting it

Im amazed as well. Hope the story keeps growing in the media.

[Johnny Hubbard 280]

The Education department specifically. Conference spend in 12 months was near 100K. Guess who got nearly 99K of that? ...c'mon. Guess!

Glasgow education department hire out rooms at Parkhead and Ibrox . I went to several in each involving teacher training and with weans who were on learning programmes.

I'm surprised there's so much difference in those costs.

How does it break down...........is there a link ?

ta

[Jonok 1,245]

Bheast make official statement:

"IN response to stories in today’s media concerning Celtic the club has released the following statement.

‘Celtic Football Club operates to the highest standards and with the utmost integrity. At a time when the Club is committed to investing in and improving areas around Celtic Park, not only for Celtic supporters but for the benefit of the local community, it is sad that these baseless accusations have been raised with the European Commission.

´Any suggestion that Celtic has been the beneficiary of state aid is preposterous - as ludicrous as any suggestion that we have benefited from soft loans from our bankers. The historic transactions referred to were negotiated with the Council on commercial terms at market rates.

´The Club will assist the Commission fully with the process and will not be deterred from our work to improve our local area."´

Looks like their delegation could not persuade the Eurpean Commision not to take this further, sound like investigation underway!!!

Well you wouldn't expect them to admit it, somehow they will make themselves appear victims.

[TAFKA 545]

Amazing that BBC reporting it

"Reporting it" might be a bit of an exaggeration!!

Managed to filter out any calls about it so far on Radio Timmy - still managed to squeeze in a "Rangers facing admin again" pish though

[NixonRFC 1,333]

I'd advise any Bear making a big deal about this and who have a decent sized following be very careful, I read a bit there and it looks like they've got all their bases covered so just be careful, don't want any Bears being targeted for slander

[Carling1873 1,404]

Well you wouldn't expect them to admit it, somehow they will make themselves appear victims.

Agree mate, however this is now getting out into the public domain, harder to sweep sweep and with the European Commision looking at this they have lost control regarding any outcome on these issues.

[choochooblue 342]

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