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He dictated the match with massive serve and return. He had Nadal 15ft behind the baseline receiving serve. Was able to throw in some serve and volley with surprise slower serves and he was on top of the net before Nadal even struck the ball. The amazing thing is how Roger is able to be so close to the baseline, cutting off Nadal's angles and topspin. He is half volleying so many returns, it is incredible.  Mac use to do some of this but not with this power and accuracy.

   Yet when you say this is peak Federer,, you get the reply that he is 36 and was so much much better at 26. Was he?  His serve is as good as ever., returning awesome. Watch his overheads. That is the first thing that starts to go with age. He has as much power as ever and you never ever see him tired....not even out of breath.  You just cannot run around backhands and then cover open court against this years Nadal, unless you are playing at peak. Nobody can do that, except Roger.....GOAT!

   

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16 hours ago, Orange Persson said:

He dictated the match with massive serve and return. He had Nadal 15ft behind the baseline receiving serve. Was able to throw in some serve and volley with surprise slower serves and he was on top of the net before Nadal even struck the ball. The amazing thing is how Roger is able to be so close to the baseline, cutting off Nadal's angles and topspin. He is half volleying so many returns, it is incredible.  Mac use to do some of this but not with this power and accuracy.

   Yet when you say this is peak Federer,, you get the reply that he is 36 and was so much much better at 26. Was he?  His serve is as good as ever., returning awesome. Watch his overheads. That is the first thing that starts to go with age. He has as much power as ever and you never ever see him tired....not even out of breath.  You just cannot run around backhands and then cover open court against this years Nadal, unless you are playing at peak. Nobody can do that, except Roger.....GOAT!

   

He did go 92-5 in 2006 tbf...

44-4 at 36 is still ridiculous though.

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57 minutes ago, Creampuff said:

Kyrgios? :lol: 

Fabulous player. Every shot in the book. Incredible game.   Capable of beating any of the top 6.  Has beaten Zverev and Nadal recently. May never be a Slam winner but can beat a Slam winner on his day. Would pay money to watch him.

If he can get a Shamen to sort his head out  and mature , he is capable of big wins.      Forgot to mention Thiem as well

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2 hours ago, Creampuff said:

Yeah Federer's playing great tennis but in considering when he's at his best you can't ignore the fact that he skipped half the season.

Also can't forget he hasn't had Murray and Djok to compete with for like half the season.

Probably wouldn't have made a difference though :lol:

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I think Federer's ceiling in 2006 (and before) was higher than now (higher than anybody's ever, probably), but one thing that it's easy to forget about his early to mid peak was how bad his concentration could be. He would play absolutely astonishing, transcendent tennis, bagelling elite opposition, and then let his opponent back into the match. This happened a LOT, probably the best example being the 2004 US Open final, when he got taken to a tiebreak by Hewitt in the second set, between two bagels. He still lets opponents back into matches now, of course, but not usually when he's absolutely mauling them. And this year, especially, he seems to have ice in his veins. All of the moments in a match where he would lose his nerve over the last 7 or 8 years, he is coming through them this year. Even and especially against Nadal.

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1 hour ago, JamieD said:

I think Federer's ceiling in 2006 (and before) was higher than now (higher than anybody's ever, probably), but one thing that it's easy to forget about his early to mid peak was how bad his concentration could be. He would play absolutely astonishing, transcendent tennis, bagelling elite opposition, and then let his opponent back into the match. This happened a LOT, probably the best example being the 2004 US Open final, when he got taken to a tiebreak by Hewitt in the second set, between two bagels. He still lets opponents back into matches now, of course, but not usually when he's absolutely mauling them. And this year, especially, he seems to have ice in his veins. All of the moments in a match where he would lose his nerve over the last 7 or 8 years, he is coming through them this year. Even and especially against Nadal.

He is playing beautifully, cannot disagree. 

Its been about 5-6 years since the “big 4” have all been fit at the same time. 

I’d actually fling wawrinka in the mix now, when, if he at it.

to me, Novak will come back and rip it up, Andy will be Andy, he’ll come close and possibly win another slam, Rafa and Roger over the next 12-18 months could struggle, but might win 1each, their still incredible players.

the young guns look the part, but they still have a fucking big mountain to climb.

imo of course.

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30 minutes ago, siamthedanger said:

Murray has a successful op on his right hip in Australia. Really hope he can get through this and win at least a couple of more slams before his career finishes.

Sadly can't see it. Targeting grass court season for return. Highly unlikely more likely to be US hard courts in the build up to the open IMO

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1 hour ago, KingKirk said:

Sadly can't see it. Targeting grass court season for return. Highly unlikely more likely to be US hard courts in the build up to the open IMO

Yeah I do fear the worst in all honesty but I suppose it's hard to tell as Murray has been tight lipped on what the actual issue is. 

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2 hours ago, siamthedanger said:

Yeah I do fear the worst in all honesty but I suppose it's hard to tell as Murray has been tight lipped on what the actual issue is. 

I can't believe that he has wasted 6 months with this operation, if he had got the op in July after Wimbledon then he might be playing in Australia this year, in theory he will most likely of missed 3 slams with Wimbledon a doubt.

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On 08/01/2018 at 18:45, hammer93 said:

I can't believe that he has wasted 6 months with this operation, if he had got the op in July after Wimbledon then he might be playing in Australia this year, in theory he will most likely of missed 3 slams with Wimbledon a doubt.

Hindsight and all that 

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15 minutes ago, hammer93 said:

Can't agree with that, it dosent take 6month to realise that the problem isn't going away with just rest and rehabilitation 

Surgery has a long lay off and there's no guarantee it will be a success. Find it amusing people who have no idea about the injury or the effects of surgery think they are more qualified than world class specialists 

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3 hours ago, TheKingObv said:

Surgery has a long lay off and there's no guarantee it will be a success. Find it amusing people who have no idea about the injury or the effects of surgery think they are more qualified than world class specialists 

Well why is he going for surgery now?

It clearly was an injury that required going under the knife, I get that surgery would be the last resort but I believe he must of knew after 6 weeks rest that the problem wasn't going away fast?

Just for the record my left hip is fucked and will need replacing, it affects my everyday life and i know fine that rest dosent do it any good whatsoever 

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Just now, Ibroxblue said:

Andy Murray says his recovery is going better than expected and he hopes to be back very soon. We'll see.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/andy-murray-injury-latest-rehab-twitter-qa-australian-open-a8169481.html

Unfortunately, I can see Murray pushing it too much, too soon, then the injury never fully clearing up.

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