You Don't Want Davies...

[E1865 5]

So we see that Davies is in line to take your manager's role should McCoist depart. As a Forest fan who has sat through two of his tenures, I can only warn against the dangers that come with the management of arguably the worst man in football.

One thing you may find is that a lot of Forest fans still wax lyrical about his time with the club but this has been significantly reduced after his second spell. He went from the messiah to a pariah in a little under a year after a comically tyrannical period where we overspent but underachieved whilst severing all ties with the academy and media and firing everyone who dared question him.

It's said you judge a man by the company he keeps, and this says the world about his character. Billy's first act when he returned was to bring in his cousin James Price as director. Now, 'Jimbo' had recently been disbarred from the legal profession and was therefore ineligible to act as a director at a football club. They frequently tweeted about the work James was doing for the club, but when questioned it was all denied... Within six months they'd fired so many staff members that we had literally no scouting system in place, a mere handful of 'his' coaches and had there were no active links between the senior team and the academy.

During all this he managed to become the only part-time manager in the football league. Unbelievably, he'd only spend 3 days a week in Nottingham. For the rest of the week he retired back to Glasgow (not once did he move here) and whilst he claimed to be spending the time doing 'video research', our inevitable late-season fall suggested that not a lot was being done.

That, as with most things was all propaganda. They were the kings of open speech on social media when the going was good, but were nowhere to be seen when we weren't winning. In reality, even during the good times it was only hate and self-fulfilling bile they peddled. Check out the frankly incredible Twitter timeline of Price himself (@Jimbo519242) to see what we mean. Through this they promoted their 'unfinished business' agenda and it quickly became clear that it had nothing to do with righting any on-field failures but more to do with settling old scores with people who scorned them during the first tenure. They picked needless fights with some of the best and most genuine people in Nottingham football, banning both the Nottingham Post and Radio Nottingham from the club as much as contractually possible. As a club we became the enemy of the everyone we mixed with and it was quite literally us against them in every part of the game.

It wasn't just professional relationships they destroyed. You may have seen that Forest have fell into trouble with FFP this week and we're now under a transfer embargo. This is partly down to our enthusiastic but slightly naive owner, but mostly down to gruesome twosome's cavalier attitude that FFP would 'never stand up'. Well, here we are, he's gone and we're feeling the effects of his excess. We were seemingly in financial trouble every week, we had unpaid invoices piling up around us and nothing was getting paid... Be it transfer installments, loan fees, even catering bills... nothing got paid on time. We weren't short of cash, they'd just not hired somebody to do it.

Not to say that it was all bad in fairness, on the pitch at least. The football his teams play is attractive enough and the highs are pretty high. We put 5 past both Derby and Leicester at home and when we won 3-1 at WBA in 2009/10 it was as good as we've known it lately. His team didn't follow it through though. His emotion-led 'us v them' system runs out of steam in February and it's not pretty from that point. You go 10 unbeaten and then don't win in 11. There's a reason his longest tenure at a club has been

To all those thinking this is just typical bad feeling towards an ex-manager, we've had failures before. David Platt, Gary Megson and Steve McClaren have all been and gone (with weaker results) and I hold no particular ill will towards them. All in all, it says the world that the only club that took Davies back after he was fired by Forest....was Forest, and only then after the previous chairman had died and the CEO had moved on. He was brought back a desperate owner who needed a positive appointment and knew he would be guaranteed good PR if Davies came in. They fired out positive propaganda about how Davies would be 'our Ferguson'. Despite this, 10 months later he's out of a job again.

To summarise, Billy Davies is is a cancer that eats away at all that is good the longer it's left unchecked, a parasite who leaves every club in a worse position than he found it and you'd be well advised to keep a wide berth of him and his entire circus. I don't know where Ally McCoist's problems lay but he will seem like paradise to Davies when everything inevitably comes crumbling down.

[Carsons Dog 9,878]

I would rather have Betty Davies than Ally McCoist

[WATBB 1,524]

Had a look through that twitter account, dear god that's horrendous.

[Drunk and disorderly. 14,418]

Won't happen imo.

He would be one of many failed applicaants.

[Johnstone Burgh 1,637]

Sounds like a huge improvement, I'm sold

[ShaneRalfRoss 301]

So we see that Davies is in line to take your manager's role should McCoist depart. As a Forest fan who has sat through two of his tenures, I can only warn against the dangers that come with the management of arguably the worst man in football.

One thing you may find is that a lot of Forest fans still wax lyrical about his time with the club but this has been significantly reduced after his second spell. He went from the messiah to a pariah in a little under a year after a comically tyrannical period where we overspent but underachieved whilst severing all ties with the academy and media and firing everyone who dared question him.

It's said you judge a man by the company he keeps, and this says the world about his character. Billy's first act when he returned was to bring in his cousin James Price as director. Now, 'Jimbo' had recently been disbarred from the legal profession and was therefore ineligible to act as a director at a football club. They frequently tweeted about the work James was doing for the club, but when questioned it was all denied... Within six months they'd fired so many staff members that we had literally no scouting system in place, a mere handful of 'his' coaches and had there were no active links between the senior team and the academy.

During all this he managed to become the only part-time manager in the football league. Unbelievably, he'd only spend 3 days a week in Nottingham. For the rest of the week he retired back to Glasgow (not once did he move here) and whilst he claimed to be spending the time doing 'video research', our inevitable late-season fall suggested that not a lot was being done.

That, as with most things was all propaganda. They were the kings of open speech on social media when the going was good, but were nowhere to be seen when we weren't winning. In reality, even during the good times it was only hate and self-fulfilling bile they peddled. Check out the frankly incredible Twitter timeline of Price himself (@Jimbo519242) to see what we mean. Through this they promoted their 'unfinished business' agenda and it quickly became clear that it had nothing to do with righting any on-field failures but more to do with settling old scores with people who scorned them during the first tenure. They picked needless fights with some of the best and most genuine people in Nottingham football, banning both the Nottingham Post and Radio Nottingham from the club as much as contractually possible. As a club we became the enemy of the everyone we mixed with and it was quite literally us against them in every part of the game.

It wasn't just professional relationships they destroyed. You may have seen that Forest have fell into trouble with FFP this week and we're now under a transfer embargo. This is partly down to our enthusiastic but slightly naive owner, but mostly down to gruesome twosome's cavalier attitude that FFP would 'never stand up'. Well, here we are, he's gone and we're feeling the effects of his excess. We were seemingly in financial trouble every week, we had unpaid invoices piling up around us and nothing was getting paid... Be it transfer installments, loan fees, even catering bills... nothing got paid on time. We weren't short of cash, they'd just not hired somebody to do it.

Not to say that it was all bad in fairness, on the pitch at least. The football his teams play is attractive enough and the highs are pretty high. We put 5 past both Derby and Leicester at home and when we won 3-1 at WBA in 2009/10 it was as good as we've known it lately. His team didn't follow it through though. His emotion-led 'us v them' system runs out of steam in February and it's not pretty from that point. You go 10 unbeaten and then don't win in 11. There's a reason his longest tenure at a club has been

To all those thinking this is just typical bad feeling towards an ex-manager, we've had failures before. David Platt, Gary Megson and Steve McClaren have all been and gone (with weaker results) and I hold no particular ill will towards them. All in all, it says the world that the only club that took Davies back after he was fired by Forest....was Forest, and only then after the previous chairman had died and the CEO had moved on. He was brought back a desperate owner who needed a positive appointment and knew he would be guaranteed good PR if Davies came in. They fired out positive propaganda about how Davies would be 'our Ferguson'. Despite this, 10 months later he's out of a job again.

To summarise, Billy Davies is is a cancer that eats away at all that is good the longer it's left unchecked, a parasite who leaves every club in a worse position than he found it and you'd be well advised to keep a wide berth of him and his entire circus. I don't know where Ally McCoist's problems lay but he will seem like paradise to Davies when everything inevitably comes crumbling down.

If only you knew what us gers fans been through since 2011 .you had easy compared to us ,

[Thewhitesettler 2,711]

He'll fit right in here with all the 'us v them' shit that goes on with our club, plus he's living in, or near, Glasgow, & knows the story with our great club..

Will he be any better than McCoist? Probably! Will he be cheaper than McCoist? I fucking hope so!

[OneDavidCooper 2,505]

So we see that Davies is in line to take your manager's role should McCoist depart. As a Forest fan who has sat through two of his tenures, I can only warn against the dangers that come with the management of arguably the worst man in football.

One thing you may find is that a lot of Forest fans still wax lyrical about his time with the club but this has been significantly reduced after his second spell. He went from the messiah to a pariah in a little under a year after a comically tyrannical period where we overspent but underachieved whilst severing all ties with the academy and media and firing everyone who dared question him.

It's said you judge a man by the company he keeps, and this says the world about his character. Billy's first act when he returned was to bring in his cousin James Price as director. Now, 'Jimbo' had recently been disbarred from the legal profession and was therefore ineligible to act as a director at a football club. They frequently tweeted about the work James was doing for the club, but when questioned it was all denied... Within six months they'd fired so many staff members that we had literally no scouting system in place, a mere handful of 'his' coaches and had there were no active links between the senior team and the academy.

During all this he managed to become the only part-time manager in the football league. Unbelievably, he'd only spend 3 days a week in Nottingham. For the rest of the week he retired back to Glasgow (not once did he move here) and whilst he claimed to be spending the time doing 'video research', our inevitable late-season fall suggested that not a lot was being done.

That, as with most things was all propaganda. They were the kings of open speech on social media when the going was good, but were nowhere to be seen when we weren't winning. In reality, even during the good times it was only hate and self-fulfilling bile they peddled. Check out the frankly incredible Twitter timeline of Price himself (@Jimbo519242) to see what we mean. Through this they promoted their 'unfinished business' agenda and it quickly became clear that it had nothing to do with righting any on-field failures but more to do with settling old scores with people who scorned them during the first tenure. They picked needless fights with some of the best and most genuine people in Nottingham football, banning both the Nottingham Post and Radio Nottingham from the club as much as contractually possible. As a club we became the enemy of the everyone we mixed with and it was quite literally us against them in every part of the game.

It wasn't just professional relationships they destroyed. You may have seen that Forest have fell into trouble with FFP this week and we're now under a transfer embargo. This is partly down to our enthusiastic but slightly naive owner, but mostly down to gruesome twosome's cavalier attitude that FFP would 'never stand up'. Well, here we are, he's gone and we're feeling the effects of his excess. We were seemingly in financial trouble every week, we had unpaid invoices piling up around us and nothing was getting paid... Be it transfer installments, loan fees, even catering bills... nothing got paid on time. We weren't short of cash, they'd just not hired somebody to do it.

Not to say that it was all bad in fairness, on the pitch at least. The football his teams play is attractive enough and the highs are pretty high. We put 5 past both Derby and Leicester at home and when we won 3-1 at WBA in 2009/10 it was as good as we've known it lately. His team didn't follow it through though. His emotion-led 'us v them' system runs out of steam in February and it's not pretty from that point. You go 10 unbeaten and then don't win in 11. There's a reason his longest tenure at a club has been

To all those thinking this is just typical bad feeling towards an ex-manager, we've had failures before. David Platt, Gary Megson and Steve McClaren have all been and gone (with weaker results) and I hold no particular ill will towards them. All in all, it says the world that the only club that took Davies back after he was fired by Forest....was Forest, and only then after the previous chairman had died and the CEO had moved on. He was brought back a desperate owner who needed a positive appointment and knew he would be guaranteed good PR if Davies came in. They fired out positive propaganda about how Davies would be 'our Ferguson'. Despite this, 10 months later he's out of a job again.

To summarise, Billy Davies is is a cancer that eats away at all that is good the longer it's left unchecked, a parasite who leaves every club in a worse position than he found it and you'd be well advised to keep a wide berth of him and his entire circus. I don't know where Ally McCoist's problems lay but he will seem like paradise to Davies when everything inevitably comes crumbling down.

Great post. Thank you

[One Jock Wallace 858]

Thanks for posting mate. I hope to god he gets nowhere near us as a manager. Never did like the guy

[onefootwillie 1,518]

Interesting post I had been very keen on Davies not quite so sure now

[pcbear 10,913]

The three highs are three more than we have had under McCoist.

[MasterD 7,435]

Aye but he's got a good video clip and has Rangers links.

He'd be amazing.

[nachothelegend 1,932]

Interesting post I had been very keen on Davies not quite so sure now

Me too but I've came to the conclusion he is not right on the head.

Keep him away from us.

[Carsons Dog 9,878]

Had a look through that twitter account, dear god that's horrendous.

Wonder of he is a bheast

"@Jimbo519242: @jitzjani I've disowned Ross because he supports rangers. Haha"

[AlBear. 8,499]

The three highs are three more than we have had under McCoist.

3 wins?

We've had more than that.

[ZZed 4,510]

Preston North End fans would not have him back after the internal damage he done to the club. Please keep him away from Rangers.

[Murtaugh 47]

I can back this guy up, spoke to a Forrest fan of 45 years a couple of months back, he said exactly the same thing. Billy Davies was a dictator, sacked all the long standing staff, got all his pals in top positions, banned the media from being anywhere near the ground and would never ever give a straight answer to anyone about anything, always played games when asked questions... He said because the success on the park was decent, that you didn't realise how bad things were off the park until he was away..

[OlegKuznetsov 10,816]

I've heard similar stuff about Davies and his wiki page is unflattering about that second term.

However, I do notice that it's rather new posters castigating his record too, so I'm gonna check out the history of edits on his wiki page, given recent precedents. After a brief scan, I see nothing suspicious in the edit history.

[Carsons Dog 9,878]

Was he not mates with Sheridan?

Or am I getting him mixed up?

[BlueAvenger 10,236]

I don't rate Davies so don't want him at Gers.

[OlegKuznetsov 10,816]

Was he not mates with Sheridan?

Or am I getting him mixed up?

I think you're right from memory. He may even have been rumoured to part of a threesome with Tommy and that rather unappealing Anvar Khan.

[Murtaugh 47]

Was he not mates with Sheridan?

Or am I getting him mixed up?

You are right and there is a shady past there, but to be fair that has nothing to do with is Forest reign. I personally would like us to go for a young dynamic coach with modern ideas...someone like Ole Solksjaer, appreciate it didn't work out at Cardiff, it was simply the wrong club, but if you read about his story with Molde and how he transformed the club it is very impressive....Anyone but Davies

[Hamie 4,842]

So we've had Newcastle fans on the forum advising us to avoid Ashley.

And Forrest fans advising us to avoid Davies.

Unfortunately they don't realise we are financially fucked and have a manager who is tactically inept.

In my opinion Davies has a reputation to rebuild and is tactically astute.

Maybe he has learned from his mistakes, something McCoist fails to do week on week.

However I still hope we can attract a better manager than Davies.

But if I was offered Davies over Comical Ally there's only one winner.

[Murtaugh 47]

article on Davies reign at forest http://www.nottinghampost.com/Garry-Birtles-m-delighted-Billy-Davies-Nottingham/story-20857435-detail/story.html

[blue No11 235]

Was he not mates with Sheridan?

Or am I getting him mixed up?

Your bang on. Davies doesn't sound like a guy we need at Ibrox right now or at any time.