PRW. 5,631 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 So you agree that he wasn't put in a position he didn't want to be in?No, he was. His boss resigned, he didn't (as he evidently cannot because he needs the income for him and his family), he was then told by the directors that he will be interim manager. Manager of club, a position he has never been in and seems a position he does not want to be in.I don't think its a case of one guys falls off the list the rest move up considering Durrant was demoted, I'm sure McDowell would much rather be in his position. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Mate you need to let go your making up hypothetical nonsense about kmd winning games 4-0, the facts are their McCoist was a dud and kmd is just a clone who can't think for himself.The job is to big for him and he should be relieved of his duties.I think its come time to humour this one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW. 5,631 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Mate you need to let go your making up hypothetical nonsense about kmd winning games 4-0, the facts are their McCoist was a dud and kmd is just a clone who can't think for himself.The job is to big for him and he should be relieved of his duties.Remove him then. Do not interfere with the football side when you cannot even get the boardroom stuff right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombaybadboy08 15,660 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Incapable of managing the side as he is not a manager. But far, far more capable, considering his 2 decades of being a football coach and the rest a player, of managing the team than 2 cunts who ran a casino and buses fuck sake.You surely can see that? Surely?Regardless of his qualifications, can he be trusted to drop underperforming players?Rhetorical btw. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW. 5,631 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I think its come time to humour this one.My point was that his managerial ability has nothing to do with this. Even the casino guy and the bus boys aren't deluded enough to think they could manage a football team better than an actual qualified coach of 20 years in McDowell.This is all to do with Ashleys orders for his players to be played to give them game time and increase their value(if they were to do well) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachothelegend 1,932 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 He should have shut up on this.Taking it to a press who hate us.Clown. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Reynolds 3,359 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 No, he was. His boss resigned, he didn't (as he evidently cannot because he needs the income for him and his family), he was then told by the directors that he will be interim manager. Manager of club, a position he has never been in and seems a position he does not want to be in.I don't think its a case of one guys falls off the list the rest move up considering Durrant was demoted, I'm sure McDowell would much rather be in his position.The board cannot make him take that position though, they just can't, so I don't get where you think he's been put in this position, who put him in it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueAvenger 10,202 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Surely to fuck they cant be any worse than the current useless spineless imposters.Pity we didn't get 11 loan players ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob1969 1,447 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 These players from Newcastle might do a job or they might not but lets not kid ourselves, this is a slap in the face and an insult, Rangers, as far as MA is concerned, is an investment, not a team. These players were brought to Newcastle to earn a sell-on profit, they are not in the shop window in the EPL so they will be forced into the shop window here. Since when did Rangers become a branch of Sports Direct. Oh.. well. If these lads go on to help win promotion then no harm done but the new manager, and surely there must be plans being drawn up, the new manager will need to be a manager and not just a puppet or general store clerk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysblue 709 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Given Llambias' statement its down to who you believe - no doubt in my mind - I believe McDowall Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibsonGray 3 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Outrageous. They're probably 5 decent players, but nobody should be telling the manager what team to play. The board is full of business people, not footballing people. Football matters should be 100% the decision of the manager.I'm surprised that McDowell has told the media that he's being forced to play them, but doesn't really seem terribly bothered by the fact that his hand is being forced. Any self-respecting manager would walk out the moment that the board start telling them what players to play! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW. 5,631 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 The board cannot make him take that position though, they just can't, so I don't get where you think he's been put in this position, who put him in it?The board.He simply cannot refuse, as then he would be out of a job with no income. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 My point was that his managerial ability has nothing to do with this. Even the casino guy and the bus boys aren't deluded enough to think they could manage a football team better than an actual qualified coach of 20 years in McDowell.This is all to do with Ashleys orders for his players to be played to give them game time and increase their value(if they were to do well)Heres hoping they do well then as that helps us both. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW. 5,631 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 He should have shut up on this. Taking it to a press who hate us. Clown. No, that would only keep the pro board fans and the board happy as its a disgraceful thing for him to be told. Well done McDowell in telling the fans the truth. A lot could follow his lead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelavic191 4,393 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 You can see in to the future now?Kenny has never had a lot of competition for places, so you have no idea if he would or wouldn't drop players to make way. It should be his choice anyway, he is far more qualified and in a far better position to make the call on whether they should or should not be in the team than any fuckin wank on that board.I can't see in to the future but I can see that McDowall has picked near enough the same team and tactics as McCoist has done and the results have been the same - a pumping off Hibs and scrappy wins over Dumbarton and Alloa. We didn't even make Craig Gordon make a save on Sunday FFS. There isn't a lot of competition for places but there is a few alternatives and none of those have been explored. I dont disagree with you in that it should be Kennys choice but who's to say that it wasn't the Newcastle CEO that has put "These boys must play if fit" into the loan agreements rather than DL or SE? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysblue 709 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 This board have shot themselves in the foot once again - simply not fit for purpose - why dont they just fuck off Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,056 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 The board.He simply cannot refuse, as then he would be out of a job with no income.Don't talk rubbish, they can't sack without compensation for refusing to take a promotion he never applied for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Reynolds 3,359 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 The board.He simply cannot refuse, as then he would be out of a job with no income.Okay, so McDowall signs a contract to be Ally's assistant, and that's his job.When Ally was put on gardening leave, McDowall's contract doesn't change, he is still contracted to be the assistant manager, the board cannot say 'you're the interim now, or we're giving you your jotters', it doesn't work like that.They could heavily suggest it, but if McDowall refused, there's nothing they could do about it, if they sacked him, he could sue.My boss quits, and his boss comes up to me and tells me I'm taking over for him, I don't have to accept.It won't make me popular, but I'm not obliged to do it.But no matter how many times I say this, you won't believe me. hammer93 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 They solve this once and for all and just sack the clown for the love of God. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW. 5,631 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Regardless of his qualifications, can he be trusted to drop underperforming players?Rhetorical btw.I must of missed the array of talent he has been holding back from game time. The only players he has yet to give a start are Robinson, Faure, Shiels (impact sub in seems under McDowell), Mohsni and then any young players who's loan spells ended.Don't get me wrong I feel Gallagher should be starting, but I fail to see how somehow he it has got so bad (in the FIVE games he has been interim manager of) that the board now need to pick the team as he has been failing to change it up.We just had fuck all in reserve till now. Dennistoun Rangers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,056 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Okay, so McDowall signs a contract to be Ally's assistant, and that's his job.When Ally was put on gardening leave, McDowall's contract doesn't change, he is still contracted to be the assistant manager, the board cannot say 'you're the interim now, or we're giving you your jotters', it doesn't work like that.They could heavily suggest it, but if McDowall refused, there's nothing they could do about it, if they sacked him, he could sue.My boss quits, and his boss comes up to me and tells me I'm taking over for him, I don't have to accept.It won't make me popular, but I'm not obliged to do it.But no matter how many times I say this, you won't believe me.I just posted similar mate but I think the phrase "talking to a brickwall" springs to mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW. 5,631 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I can't see in to the future but I can see that McDowall has picked near enough the same team and tactics as McCoist has done and the results have been the same - a pumping off Hibs and scrappy wins over Dumbarton and Alloa. We didn't even make Craig Gordon make a save on Sunday FFS. There isn't a lot of competition for places but there is a few alternatives and none of those have been explored. I dont disagree with you in that it should be Kennys choice but who's to say that it wasn't the Newcastle CEO that has put "These boys must play if fit" into the loan agreements rather than DL or SE?I agree with you. The tactics are all wrong, so employ a new manager - oh no wait they can't as they have totally fucked it up and we have no money. Making a shite manager play 5 players isn't going to all of a sudden change his tactics mate, the same will persists.And I agree with you again on that point. I too believe that the orders have came straight from Newcastle. Forced to take those 5 players nobody at Rangers knows anything of and forced to play them every week by Ashley. Jelavic191 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW. 5,631 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Okay, so McDowall signs a contract to be Ally's assistant, and that's his job.When Ally was put on gardening leave, McDowall's contract doesn't change, he is still contracted to be the assistant manager, the board cannot say 'you're the interim now, or we're giving you your jotters', it doesn't work like that.They could heavily suggest it, but if McDowall refused, there's nothing they could do about it, if they sacked him, he could sue.My boss quits, and his boss comes up to me and tells me I'm taking over for him, I don't have to accept.It won't make me popular, but I'm not obliged to do it.But no matter how many times I say this, you won't believe me.So what you are saying is that he had the option to remain as assistant, but chose to take the position he does not want to have? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamess 3,407 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 They solve this once and for all and just sack the clown for the love of God.I don't know who are the bigger clowns - McD or the board. Both clowns and both need sacking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer93 15,056 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 So what you are saying is that he had the option to remain as assistant, but chose to take the position he does not want to have?If he said he wasn't doing it what could they do?His contract is to assist the manager, unless they gave him a new contract he could easily stand his ground and refuse.Your obviously not up on employment laws. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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