RangersMedia 35,961 Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 Yeah. Excellent result for England, and about time! From the neutral stand point it probably would have been a far closer game had India won the toss, but.... they never and England made the most of near ideal bowling conditions - they were superb and tbh I don't think anyone would have beaten them TEFTONG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creampuff 22,628 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 18 hours ago, Badger said: Conditions in this test have heavily favoured England, it's made it a bit of a non event. The Indians cannot cope with swing, and both days England have bowled it has been really swinging. In cool and overcast English conditions, Anderson is brilliant - you could put Williamson, Smith, Kohli, etc in a batting dream team and I'm pretty sure he would pick that apart when conditions are like this. He is unplayable when late swing is happening, and tbh.... batsmen are defenseless when the ball is moving that much - I don't think it possible to register a big score. He will be a very hard man for England to replace when he retires. You see the two outswingers and you know the inswinger is coming for your leg/edge/off stump. With movement that late what can you do? Batsmen stay at the crease until Jimmy decides they can go in those conditions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Creampuff said: You see the two outswingers and you know the inswinger is coming for your leg/edge/off stump. With movement that late what can you do? Batsmen stay at the crease until Jimmy decides they can go in those conditions. Oh yeah, when the ball is swinging that far, and that late - what can you do? It's a seemingly random deviation (obviously Anderson has a degree of control over it), coming at you at 80mph. You might get away with it for 40/50 balls, but eventually you will get caught out, as the ball is moving all over the place. It must be the most difficult of all conditions to bat in, especially with a swing master like Anderson bowling at you. As woeful as India were at the crease, even batting well, it would require something very special. Conditions would see 220ish being a good score. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 India are garbage when they travel and the BCCI have nobody to blame but themselves for not encouraging their players to travel and play abroad. It's impossible to play late swing when you're so used to playing on flat wickets where you read the line early and play straight through it, knowing the ball won't deviate. Sangakkara and Athers were great on 'The Zone' in explaining just how difficult it is in England. TEFTONG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviGer 648 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 No doubt England got the best of the conditions for bowling. When Anderson is swinging it round corners like that no one can deal with him. England will probably squeeze one more ashes series out him next year and that will be him. Massive gap to fill. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 Im 7 hours ago, psb07158 said: India are garbage when they travel and the BCCI have nobody to blame but themselves for not encouraging their players to travel and play abroad. It's impossible to play late swing when you're so used to playing on flat wickets where you read the line early and play straight through it, knowing the ball won't deviate. Sangakkara and Athers were great on 'The Zone' in explaining just how difficult it is in England. When you've a ball swinging up to 30cm, right or left, then eventually starting to reverse swing as well. Even batsmen well used to those conditions will struggle with it as theres just so much risk of lbw or getting caught off an edge. With day 2's conditions, any team would consider 200 a good score, and India fell well short of that. With damp and overcast forecast for Trent Bridge, I think more of the same. TEFTONG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,087 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, Badger said: Im When you've a ball swinging up to 30cm, right or left, then eventually starting to reverse swing as well. Even batsmen well used to those conditions will struggle with it as theres just so much risk of lbw or getting caught off an edge. With day 2's conditions, any team would consider 200 a good score, and India fell well short of that. With damp and overcast forecast for Trent Bridge, I think more of the same. I was emailed offering me a ticket for Trent Bridge from £20. I'm working except for day 4 the Tuesday. Conditions would probably mean it won't get to day 4..so will just watch it at home. If I go back to Trent Bridge again this year I'm expecting to be greeted by security using my first name. 6 visits since May...love it though. BlearyEyedBear 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kplfishtank 4,656 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Stokes found not guilty. Fecking hell. I can’t believe that after seeing the videos. Having said that will he get in the team after Woakes effort at Lords. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,087 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 42 minutes ago, kplfishtank said: Stokes found not guilty. Fecking hell. I can’t believe that after seeing the videos. Having said that will he get in the team after Woakes effort at Lords. It must be a huge relief for him that he got a jury trial and the prosecution fucked up the charge... straight into the squad for Trent Bridge. I can't believe he got away with it tbh. But hey that's justice for you.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlearyEyedBear 4,148 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Stokesy’s lawyer has played a blinder there. TEFTONG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 Early doors, but it looks like theres plenty of swing out there. Pitch seems slower though. Probably won't be as emphatic as Lords, but I sense another comfortable victory. For India getting to 250 would be a decent score in this innings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALerone 633 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Me and my Dad went to Derbyshire last night to see Tms vs Tailenders match. Dagnall on Michael Vaughan's Tms team bowled Monty Panesar first ball, the whole match was played with Dan Norcross doing Tms commentary over the loud speakers ripping the piss out of all the players. Top night but Tailenders won. TEFTONG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,087 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 3 hours ago, ALerone said: Me and my Dad went to Derbyshire last night to see Tms vs Tailenders match. Dagnall on Michael Vaughan's Tms team bowled Monty Panesar first ball, the whole match was played with Dan Norcross doing Tms commentary over the loud speakers ripping the piss out of all the players. Top night but Tailenders won. I watched the tail end of Yorkshire v Notts in the 20/20 Blast. Notts coming into form at the right time. I've managed to have a chance to see some of today's Test and the pitch is not doing much.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 Wicket has been very flat after the swing of this morning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,087 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Managed to clock this beauty of a flag on the tv coverage from Trent Bridge.. sandyinroyalblue 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 @TEFTONG Basildon Loyal TEFTONG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 Conditions were pretty much perfect for England this morning and they made short work of India's middle order and tail. India cannot cope with a lot of late swing, then again, very few can. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 England's batting atrocious again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Stokes with another abject failure with the bat and the pundits on Sky all look the other way. TEFTONG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 39 minutes ago, sandyinroyalblue said: England's batting atrocious again. Conditions are tough with the bat out there. None of the dismissals have been terrible. Jennings maybe had a poor technique, but again nothing awful. The balls just moving loads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Badger said: Conditions are tough with the bat out there. None of the dismissals have been terrible bar Jennings maybe, Must be tough for the English batsmen to play in the kind of conditions they've played all their lives. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 Oh dear a collapse Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 When you think about it with all these batting collapses it strange that the two guys who have pulled England out of the shit last year and this year(Curran and Moeen) are the ones to get dropped. TEFTONG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,087 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 On 19/08/2018 at 19:28, sandyinroyalblue said: When you think about it with all these batting collapses it strange that the two guys who have pulled England out of the shit last year and this year(Curran and Moeen) are the ones to get dropped. Moen and another scapegoat Vince both scored tons in the Championship.. Another dismal batting display today from the England top order. They have short changed the fans who paid to watch them today. Just giving wickets away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALerone 633 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Fuck that were gonna win only need 300 by tomorrow! TEFTONG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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