Ally included in celebrations?

[folkestoneger 8,135]

8 minutes ago, Smile said:

I disagree with McCoist how he ran us and taking a fair old wedge, but he did play his part of the Journey. I don't feel the same about him now but don't resort to scum names for him.

 

In all honesty few have actually resorted to that language. Most are just pointing out what he did cannot easily be forgiven.

[BCLoyal9 53]

1 minute ago, MacStoner_96Bear_ST said:

I never see the amount of slate you hear about ally, towards the real people who "shafted the club" ......

Is this about really involving McCoist, or just getting a last minute one up on the people who were right all along about his capabilities? Given the shrill nature of your contributions here I'm going to assume the latter. Calling people "Ally haters" and the like totally ignores the many valid reasons that people have for not being well disposed towards him.

I don't want to be vindictive; he is still a Rangers man, and if he wants to celebrate a title win at Ibrox as a supporter then it's not for me to say he can't. Not for any of us. But to involve him directly gives a level of acknowledgement that he simply hasn't earned. 

 

[Tipster 103]

1 minute ago, MacStoner_96Bear_ST said:

I've been a ST holder for past 4 years, if I seen Ally I would celebrate with him

I've had a season ticket for 24 years and despise the man for his behaviour.

[Smile 26,600]

Just now, folkestoneger said:

In all honesty few have actually resorted to that language. Most are just pointing out what he did cannot easily be forgiven.

Which i agree with 100%.

[folkestoneger 8,135]

2 minutes ago, MacStoner_96Bear_ST said:

I've been a ST holder for past 4 years, if I seen Ally I would celebrate with him

I don't see people slating all of the other people who have received a wage which they were offered by our club, that's so unacceptable accepting what the club offer you : ) give us the money back Paul Le Guen you sack of beans

Paul Le Guen walked with no pay off.

Worst example you could possibly have chosen

[Gaffbear 4,096]

We were pish before Admin under his tenure.

Lost a 15 point lead in 6 weeks under Ally so proved then he didnae have what it took..

[MacStoner_96Bear_ST 27]

if you say that you  "despise" Ally I think the wires in your head might have got crossed up -

You must just be ignoring everything good he did for the club, and getting caught up in a 'the crucible' like cry of slate

If you want to waste your focus on something entirely irrelevant that doens't make a difference and make yourself belive you hate it it'syour choice

[Pure_Quality 3,295]

He played his part in getting us to the Championship where he ultimately failed, and failed miserably.

I'd not expect us to parade Cribari, Sandaza or Ian Black around the pitch because they were part of the 'journey', so McCoist shouldn't be there either. This celebration should be for winning the Championship, which he played no part in whatsoever.

That being said, the name calling and vitriolic abuse on this thread is horrendous towards a guy who served the club so well over many many years. McCoist did his best for the club but fell massively short of expectations in a number of areas, and calling him a cunt and a thief is way out of order.

[Tipster 103]

Great player, made a fortune in the process. No problem with that.

Utterly dreadful manager - made a bigger fortune sitting in his garden doing zilch. Big, big problems with that.

[Tipster 103]

1 minute ago, MacStoner_96Bear_ST said:

if you say that you  "despise" Ally I think the wires in your head might have got crossed up -

You must just be ignoring everything good he did for the club, and getting caught up in a 'the crucible' like cry of slate

If you want to waste your focus on something entirely irrelevant that doens't make a difference and make yourself belive you hate it it'syour choice

My wires are not crossed up. I know a rat who took a million bucks from our club for doing nothing when I see one.

[derekweir29 505]

Every article he is talking about the manky mob and how we cant compete.

So its a naw from me. Championship winning side and it should be the team that was on pitch on Tuesday nobody else.

 

 

 

 

[Misteral 2,932]

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But Rangers fans should not forget the role McCoist played in the rebirth of the club. 

We were not fucking re-born 

[Prso's headband 35,428]

He had better be nowhere near the title celebrations. He has contributed nothing to the team that has won the championship this season. There is no way he should be allowed to take the limelight away from MW and the team by being on the pitch. In the stands like everyone else or at home. 

[Johnstone Burgh 1,637]

53 minutes ago, _mcv_ said:

Was bad the way he dragged out his contract when we needed the money.  Hopefully the full story does come out.

He does have a better record as a manager than Warburton.

Warburton has a far better record as Rangers manager than McCoist does

[The Dude 20,026]

12 minutes ago, folkestoneger said:

Oh for fuck's sake.

We could have hired any manager from any team in Scotland for a fraction of the money and we would have still walked those leagues.

Anyway the argument is not about his failings as a manager ( and there were plenty) but about his taking a fortune from the club after he was removed. That is why he will never be forgiven in many peoples opinion

Like Stuart McCall?

 

Ita amazing how we go on and on about loyalty but the second we're expected to show some it's chucked out the window. 

 

 

[ForeverAndEver 71,470]

8 minutes ago, MacStoner_96Bear_ST said:

if you say that you  "despise" Ally I think the wires in your head might have got crossed up -

You must just be ignoring everything good he did for the club, and getting caught up in a 'the crucible' like cry of slate

If you want to waste your focus on something entirely irrelevant that doens't make a difference and make yourself belive you hate it it'syour choice

Go and get a straw and firmly place in his arse.

[WGOH 2,344]

9 minutes ago, MacStoner_96Bear_ST said:

if you say that you  "despise" Ally I think the wires in your head might have got crossed up -

You must just be ignoring everything good he did for the club, and getting caught up in a 'the crucible' like cry of slate

If you want to waste your focus on something entirely irrelevant that doens't make a difference and make yourself belive you hate it it'syour choice

Is that you TonyRice? 

[Leeds_Bear 8,110]

23 minutes ago, Bluepeter9 said:

Usual shit from the usual haters ! 

Just because it's not your opinion doesn't make it shit.

[Tiger Shaw 30,464]

54 minutes ago, _mcv_ said:

Was bad the way he dragged out his contract when we needed the money.  Hopefully the full story does come out.

He does have a better record as a manager than Warburton.

He's not got a better record than MW in the championship and give Warburton 4 years  he will achieve things Ally could only dream of as a manager.  I don't hate him for being a bad manager, I don't hate him for dragging out his contract or for licking that little bastard lennons scabby bawsack, Im just disappointed in him and the way things turned out,  I'm not fussed ether way if he's involved in the celebrations or not. 

[Bellshill_Bear 1,105]

Super ally should be included incelebrations and in glad it's not up to you fickle bunch of arseholes.

 

whether or not you like his work or pay packet he did get us promoted twice and is the clubs top goalscorer. I'm glad hat not all of the fans share this view and actually appreciate his efforts.

 

[cushynumber 25,178]

 When he was made manager I said to anybody that would listen that he was the wrong man, in the wrong place at the wrong time and unfortunately that came true big time. I can forgive being a shite manager - theres many ex-players have fallen into that category. However, what sticks in the craw was the "we dont do walking away" - when the financial element of it meant he would almost never have walked away in any case. It was a great rallying soundbite that ultimately was used to justify is own greed. To re-enforce that even further,  in hindsight it has became obvious that he was quite happy to work with multiple boardroom charlatans and alleged crooks in order to line his own pockets.

I dont understand why there is even the slightest empathy for the man from some - playing record or not.

 

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

17 minutes ago, MacStoner_96Bear_ST said:

I never see the amount of slate you hear about ally, towards the real people who "shafted the club" ......

Ally was meant to be one of us, but when it came to the crunch he was just like all the rest of the gravy train crew. 

Oh and he was the worst manager in the history of Rangers. 

Tell you what would go a long way to Ally getting back into the good books, if he would gift all those 1p shares he got from Chuckles to RF. I would expect Hell to freeze over first mind you. 

[MacStoner_96Bear_ST 27]

no offence, I just think its easy to pretend online that you could have won the Div 3 and Div 2 titles with less money.

It's real life not a computer game.

I think it;s easy to pretend you would have done a better job for free. - How come you aren't a manager then????????

 

I don't exactly want to dwell on the past but

Where did all the money from the 3rd div share issue go? Do you think Ally took all of that too? No - it might have been spent but not by him

I would say Zaliukas last year was probably a waste of wages - but the fact is no-one in this forum knows how much that specifically wasted - so why cry like a baby about it - and I would say there's no point dwelling on that now. It would be like losing a cup final then spend the rest of your fanhood moaning about that instead of looking forward to the next cup finals

 

Even McInnes or McCall would have been lucky to win all 3 divs 3 years in a row if they got the job in my opinion - i'm not even sur if they would have done  abetter job - they could have got us to the prem with a team then crashed and wasted "money" too .... - so I just feel that it's a disrespect to every legend of this football club to turn on ally

 

 

Even Hearts ditched the philosophy they used to get them back into the Premiership - so its bullshit to say Ally wasn't building a philosophy or anything becausse MW is the only manager in SCotland who does - this is a football wasteland

[BridgeIsBlue 66,606]

Why don't we invite all of the old board back as well,because like Ally they received a lot of money for doing absolutely hee haw.

[BCLoyal9 53]

2 minutes ago, Bellshill_Bear said:

Super ally should be included incelebrations and in glad it's not up to you fickle bunch of arseholes.

 

whether or not you like his work or pay packet he did get us promoted twice and is the clubs top goalscorer. I'm glad hat not all of the fans share this view and actually appreciate his efforts.

 

 

What about the players? Have you actually thought about whether Warburton has been consulted? It doesn't seem the kind of thing he'd go for, as a man who's always looking forward. Imagine the awkwardness ffs.