Can You Help A Wee Bear To Get To America For An Operation?

[Bobby Hume 12,969]

2 hours ago, William McBeath said:

Good to hear things are going well Mark and that your boy is good.

Just wanted to ask if anyone has approached the club or fan groups because if anything they have a greater ability to reach out to many. The RFF is going to spend lots on a wee stand at the academy which will simply make things more comfortable for the players families and coaches. Its the sort of thing that can wait in comparison to your son. The club could have one of those tick boxes like they do for charity when you buy a ticket except it would be for Joshua's surgery.

I know the club probably don't like to get to involved with these things as so many need a help but your son has a unique case. How unfortunate is it these days to have a serious condition that the NHS don't cover. This is one of the most advanced country's in the world so its sad to find there are things this serious were you still need to be rich to get treatment.

Sort of thing that makes your blood get warm when you think we let people become billionaires for selling tracksuits yet our NHS can't afford to save our children.

Great effort by all the boys on here though. Govan Bear and his helpers are also putting the big charity foundations to shame with their efforts on a much smaller medium. Keep it up lads, you make me feel proud and humble 

Great post mate ..... you would need to read this thread from the beginning to see the avenues that have been explored by GB and many more (some you have mentioned) to see the fantastic efforts by all concerned with young Joshua's plight.

Most avenues are being tapped as we speak, and it takes some doing keeping up with all the good that has and is coming from all concerned in these different projects.

None more so than From Mark and his wife, who have been (naturally) unstinting in their far flung attempts to keep the dream alive that Joshua will be made well .... their belief is truly amazing.

Perhaps if you have contacts in the Manchester area that may help to unlock some more routes (as the family are from your neck of the woods) that Mark does not have access to.

If you have it would be another step closer to America for them all ..... if not then just do what most of us are doing and help with whatever spare Pounds you have .... it all helps mate.

 

[William McBeath 2,154]

49 minutes ago, Bobby Hume said:

Great post mate ..... you would need to read this thread from the beginning to see the avenues that have been explored by GB and many more (some you have mentioned) to see the fantastic efforts by all concerned with young Joshua's plight.

Most avenues are being tapped as we speak, and it takes some doing keeping up with all the good that has and is coming from all concerned in these different projects.

None more so than From Mark and his wife, who have been (naturally) unstinting in their far flung attempts to keep the dream alive that Joshua will be made well .... their belief is truly amazing.

Perhaps if you have contacts in the Manchester area that may help to unlock some more routes (as the family are from your neck of the woods) that Mark does not have access to.

If you have it would be another step closer to America for them all ..... if not then just do what most of us are doing and help with whatever spare Pounds you have .... it all helps mate.

 

Yeah mate from what I've seen when on it is amazing how much the lads have came up with and I know lots like the club have helped out with things like the raffle prizes. It was more just me thinking of what I could that would bring in more money.

I wish I did have contacts to do a bit of fundraising but I mostly know family, workmates, neighbours, and who my missus knows down here. I only work with a small amount of people too so couldn't even organise a work charity do. I'm was thinking about my daughters school now that you have given me the idea but they would not do it without it being some sort of do and that's usually something they do for a local kid or campaign.

I say that because I'm near enough in Blackburn so its a good bit away.

I used to go to Manchester Utd's old training centre as part of an old job so knew some of the coaches and met the likes of Darren Fletcher. That would have been ideal if someone like organised a match with a Rangers youth team with a main player like themselves playing in each side. But the main man was a dick so I wouldn't even bother with him now.  

Was just mentioning it to throw the idea out there because the main thing your post did was make me think what I could do to help. Hopefully people see these posts and find something that can help. 

I've just been putting a wee bit towards the fund when I get paid and will no doubt continue to do so regularly. I know being a parent how it feels just seeing them in pain, just makes you feel helpless. But here the NHS can't even help, which is supposed to be your lifeline in this country. Its a bit sickening to think that rich people are able to fix their children but not the rest of us. What's our taxes fucking for? Yet we'll spend a billion on something stupid like the millennial dome or Wembley.

Anyhow, I better not get started as I'm up too late as it is. Here's hoping the lad has a great Xmas    

[mark adair 976]

8 hours ago, William McBeath said:

Yeah mate from what I've seen when on it is amazing how much the lads have came up with and I know lots like the club have helped out with things like the raffle prizes. It was more just me thinking of what I could that would bring in more money.

I wish I did have contacts to do a bit of fundraising but I mostly know family, workmates, neighbours, and who my missus knows down here. I only work with a small amount of people too so couldn't even organise a work charity do. I'm was thinking about my daughters school now that you have given me the idea but they would not do it without it being some sort of do and that's usually something they do for a local kid or campaign.

I say that because I'm near enough in Blackburn so its a good bit away.

I used to go to Manchester Utd's old training centre as part of an old job so knew some of the coaches and met the likes of Darren Fletcher. That would have been ideal if someone like organised a match with a Rangers youth team with a main player like themselves playing in each side. But the main man was a dick so I wouldn't even bother with him now.  

Was just mentioning it to throw the idea out there because the main thing your post did was make me think what I could do to help. Hopefully people see these posts and find something that can help. 

I've just been putting a wee bit towards the fund when I get paid and will no doubt continue to do so regularly. I know being a parent how it feels just seeing them in pain, just makes you feel helpless. But here the NHS can't even help, which is supposed to be your lifeline in this country. Its a bit sickening to think that rich people are able to fix their children but not the rest of us. What's our taxes fucking for? Yet we'll spend a billion on something stupid like the millennial dome or Wembley.

Anyhow, I better not get started as I'm up too late as it is. Here's hoping the lad has a great Xmas    

Thank you both that did bring a tear to my eye reading both your threads. It sickens me to guys and I am still fighting with the department of health as to why they will not help but like everything in this country it takes time for them to even answer you back. I said in a previous thread that Joshua's consultant has stepped in to help out with pushing sheffield hospital for an answer as to why they will not help. Once we have an answer the Bbc are going to do a story on why this country can't help Joshua even tho they have the facilities to do so. In the mean time I will continue to keep tweeting and messaging how I can and hope some rich person feels nice enough to help out in even passing his story around or giving some sort of donation. We can just keep trying. I have Manchester evening news coming out today to do another story in the paper and all local papers again to see if we can get another push with the public, let's hope. Amanda has also now got the woman's mag chat publishing the story as we speak so that will go nation wide so there is an other hopeful angle. Once again you are all my family and you are all very much in my debt for all you have done and are still doing thank you all once more and let's hope all our efforts get Joshua to where he needs to be. He is getting so big know and is just beginning to thrive with his walking and his bossiness lol such a little ? lol. 

[mark adair 976]

Just a wee £4000 been added to the Gofundme page from Joshua's funday the other weekend not to bad for a couple days fundraising. Also got a wee story hitting the Manchester evening news again so I will share once it hits the paper. 

[Bobby Hume 12,969]

What a lift that is Mark ..... absolutely brilliant .... you must be made up mate ...great news.

  

 

[Bears r us 30,757]

3 minutes ago, Bobby Hume said:

What a lift that is Mark ..... absolutely brilliant .... you must be made up mate ...great news.

  

 

Great news mate. 

[mark adair 976]

Keeping it live just doing everything I can got some more events set up for after the newyear to. Not for giving in easily as this wee bear deserves a good life. If I could give him my chest I would but I always been positive person and that won't change. I have faith that Joshua will get his miracle. Thank you everyone once again 

[William McBeath 2,154]

On ‎15‎/‎12‎/‎2016 at 0:16 PM, mark adair said:

Thank you both that did bring a tear to my eye reading both your threads. It sickens me to guys and I am still fighting with the department of health as to why they will not help but like everything in this country it takes time for them to even answer you back. I said in a previous thread that Joshua's consultant has stepped in to help out with pushing sheffield hospital for an answer as to why they will not help. Once we have an answer the Bbc are going to do a story on why this country can't help Joshua even tho they have the facilities to do so. In the mean time I will continue to keep tweeting and messaging how I can and hope some rich person feels nice enough to help out in even passing his story around or giving some sort of donation. We can just keep trying. I have Manchester evening news coming out today to do another story in the paper and all local papers again to see if we can get another push with the public, let's hope. Amanda has also now got the woman's mag chat publishing the story as we speak so that will go nation wide so there is an other hopeful angle. Once again you are all my family and you are all very much in my debt for all you have done and are still doing thank you all once more and let's hope all our efforts get Joshua to where he needs to be. He is getting so big know and is just beginning to thrive with his walking and his bossiness lol such a little ? lol. 

I can understand slightly as my mum passed away when I was young and would probably have survived in America. It was a rare type of encephalitis but in the US they give you a drug immediately as a precaution. She might still have had some brain damage though but I will never know now. The bit that destroyed me at the time was she practically just lay in the Western for a week with none of them knowing what was wrong with her. They were relying on consultants from the Southern to analyse the scans so she wasn't even in the right hospital. This came down to the postcode factor even in the same city and the fact that the hospital consultants were she was were not specialists.

I went and spoke to the consultant a while later and should probably have taken the NHS to court to make sure it didn't happen again because it was an eye opener to the potential for negligence but I just thought what's the point as it won't bring her back and the guys no doubt try their best under difficult circumstances. Much of it was down to money with the drugs costing more but what got me the most was the waited until too late to do the MRI scan which is the only one powerful enough to pick up the evidence for that particular type of the virus. They used an inferior CAT scan during the first few days because of costs and even for that she was transferred to Gartnavel because the Westerns was broke. An absolute cluster fuck and heart breaking at the time and even more so afterwards when piecing it all together.

We're very fortunate to have the NHS but I will never just accept people's word for anything now when it comes to health. Too important so keep fighting.

Also if you ever need a hand if your doing something locally to raise funds just give me a shout mate as I'm just outside Bury

[LochendBilly 8,410]

Keep believing Mark! May you all have a fantastic Christmas mate. We ARE a family Bro.

[Big Al 55 9,230]

Needed a bump.

Quiz night Fri 27th January confirmed Parkfoot Social Club Kilsyth. 5 man teams £10 entry per team. Will get raffle prizes and maybe the odd auctionable item.

Everybody is more than welcome.  If you'd like to enter a team or attend let me know.

Events like this are only successful if people make the effort to attend I'm hoping for a decent turnout between the lodge members and the RSC who leave from the club.

Mark do you have the jpegs or png files for Josh? I'd like to create a poster or two for the event and would be good to have the wee mans picture on there.

[mark adair 976]

2 minutes ago, Big Al II said:

let me know what ones you want mate or drop me a dm with you email and I will send some over to you and you can pic what you want mate 

[dougie76 15,356]

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[mark adair 976]

My cuz from America has just sent me this if any of you have a large email list could you give it a try. Not to sure of things like this but worth a try. 

This was on the 9:00 o'clock news the other night and this works. THIS TOOK TWO PAGES OF THE TUESDAY USA TODAY - IT IS FOR REALPLEEEEEEASE READ it was on the news!This thing is for real. Rest assured AOL and Intel will follow through with their promises for fear of facing a multimillion-dollar class action suit similar to the one filed by PepsiCo against General Electric not too long ago.Dear Friends; Please do not take this for a junk letter. Bill Gates sharing his fortune. If you ignore this, You will repent later. Microsoft and AOL are now the largest Internet companies and in an effort to make sure that Internet Explorer remains the most widely used program, Microsoft and AOL are running an e-mail beta test.When you forward this e-mail to friends, Microsoft can and will track it (If you are a Microsoft Windows user)? For a two weeks time period.For every person that you forward this e-mail to, Microsoft will pay you $245.00 For every person that you sent it to that forwards it
on, Microsoft will pay you $243.00 and ! for every third person that
receives it, You will be paid $241.00. Within two weeks, Microsoft
will contact you for your address and then send you a check.RegardsCharles S Bailey General Manager Field Operations
1-800-842-2332 Ext. 1085 or 904-1085 or RNX
292-1085I thought this was a scam myself, But two weeks after receiving
this e-mail and forwarding it on. Microsoft contacted me for my
address and within days, I receive a check for $24, 800.00. You need
to respond before the beta testing is over. If anyone can afford this,
Bill gates is the man.It's all marketing expense to him. Please forward this to as many
people as possible.

[Bobby Hume 12,969]

2 hours ago, mark adair said:

My cuz from America has just sent me this if any of you have a large email list could you give it a try. Not to sure of things like this but worth a try. 

This was on the 9:00 o'clock news the other night and this works. THIS TOOK TWO PAGES OF THE TUESDAY USA TODAY - IT IS FOR REALPLEEEEEEASE READ it was on the news!This thing is for real. Rest assured AOL and Intel will follow through with their promises for fear of facing a multimillion-dollar class action suit similar to the one filed by PepsiCo against General Electric not too long ago.Dear Friends; Please do not take this for a junk letter. Bill Gates sharing his fortune. If you ignore this, You will repent later. Microsoft and AOL are now the largest Internet companies and in an effort to make sure that Internet Explorer remains the most widely used program, Microsoft and AOL are running an e-mail beta test.When you forward this e-mail to friends, Microsoft can and will track it (If you are a Microsoft Windows user)? For a two weeks time period.For every person that you forward this e-mail to, Microsoft will pay you $245.00 For every person that you sent it to that forwards it
on, Microsoft will pay you $243.00 and ! for every third person that
receives it, You will be paid $241.00. Within two weeks, Microsoft
will contact you for your address and then send you a check.RegardsCharles S Bailey General Manager Field Operations
1-800-842-2332 Ext. 1085 or 904-1085 or RNX
292-1085I thought this was a scam myself, But two weeks after receiving
this e-mail and forwarding it on. Microsoft contacted me for my
address and within days, I receive a check for $24, 800.00. You need
to respond before the beta testing is over. If anyone can afford this,
Bill gates is the man.It's all marketing expense to him. Please forward this to as many
people as possible.

Not too sure about this Mark .... as they can be pretty convincing when putting this type of stuff out there. 

I tend to steer clear, and I'm wary of these kind of "get rich quick" type of things due to, "if it seems too good to be true .... it probably is".

But as people are not being asked for money up front or being asked for personal bank details ..... it may be worth a shot .... but only if your cousin has identifiable proof from someone who has actually received these cheques.

 

 

[Bears r us 30,757]

1 minute ago, Bobby Hume said:

Not too sure about this Mark .... as they can be pretty convincing when putting this type of stuff out there. 

I tend to steer clear, and I'm wary of these kind of "get rich quick" type of things due to, "if it seems too good to be true .... it probably is".

But as people are not being asked for money up front or being asked for personal bank details ..... it may be worth a shot .... but only if your cousin has identifiable proof from someone who has actually received these cheques.

 

 

Because of the concerns we all have for getting young Joshua the treatment he needs, I did not comment on the post above when I read it, I did not want to be negative, but you have said it better anyway.

I would agree that @mark adair cousin would need confirmation that they are paying out, because it seems a strange story to me, seems too good to be true as you say.  

This post is covered by 'I might well have got this wrong and could look a right prat when I am proved wrong at a later date' which would be great because the Joshua fund would have got a great boost. 

  

[mark adair 976]

17 minutes ago, Bears r us said:

Because of the concerns we all have for getting young Joshua the treatment he needs, I did not comment on the post above when I read it, I did not want to be negative, but you have said it better anyway.

I would agree that @mark adair cousin would need confirmation that they are paying out, because it seems a strange story to me, seems too good to be true as you say.  

This post is covered by 'I might well have got this wrong and could look a right prat when I am proved wrong at a later date' which would be great because the Joshua fund would have got a great boost. 

  

Very true that's why I was looking for some advice as I have seen these things before my self and they have been a lot of BS thanks for your in put guys. 

[govanblue 16,847]

6 hours ago, mark adair said:

blah blah blah, complete bullshit email.

Sorry Mark, this is a complete scam.  Please don't you or anyone else respond to it.

It's called the Bill Gates email hoax...

http://hoaxes.org/weblog/comments/bill_gates

 

 

 

[govanblue 16,847]

1 minute ago, mark adair said:

Very true that's why I was looking for some advice as I have seen these things before my self and they have been a lot of BS thanks for your in put guys. 

Total scam.

delete it.

 

[Bears r us 30,757]

Just now, mark adair said:

Very true that's why I was looking for some advice as I have seen these things before my self and they have been a lot of BS thanks for your in put guys. 

[mark adair 976]

Just now, govanblue said:

Total scam.

delete it.

 

Cool will do cheers GB. 

[William McBeath 2,154]

58 minutes ago, Bobby Hume said:

Not too sure about this Mark .... as they can be pretty convincing when putting this type of stuff out there. 

I tend to steer clear, and I'm wary of these kind of "get rich quick" type of things due to, "if it seems too good to be true .... it probably is".

But as people are not being asked for money up front or being asked for personal bank details ..... it may be worth a shot .... but only if your cousin has identifiable proof from someone who has actually received these cheques.

 

 

Aye, no doubt it will turn out they need your bank info to give you the money. Or malware nicks your details. I always give these things a miss too mate. If anyone tries it they should do it from a library or something.

Seen a guy on TV who lost hundreds because he replied to some lot saying he had inheritance to collect from Africa. The fact he had no history of relations over there didn't put him off 

[Bobby Hume 12,969]

1 hour ago, William McBeath said:

Aye, no doubt it will turn out they need your bank info to give you the money. Or malware nicks your details. I always give these things a miss too mate. If anyone tries it they should do it from a library or something.

Seen a guy on TV who lost hundreds because he replied to some lot saying he had inheritance to collect from Africa. The fact he had no history of relations over there didn't put him off 

On a lighter note ..... as the scum are taking up all the free space (and oxygen) at public libraries .... (probably giving their long lost Nigerian relatives their giro details .... along with all the news about their favourite subject .... The Rangers) .... we will not need to worry about this particular scam causing any grief for young Joshua's Fund ...... .

[Zetland 5,830]

3 hours ago, govanblue said:

Sorry Mark, this is a complete scam.  Please don't you or anyone else respond to it.

It's called the Bill Gates email hoax...

http://hoaxes.org/weblog/comments/bill_gates

 

 

 

Might be good for each of you to edit / delete your posts. Folk don't always read the previous comments!!

[govanblue 16,847]

36 minutes ago, Zetland said:

Might be good for each of you to edit / delete your posts. Folk don't always read the previous comments!!

To fall for that nonsense, you'd need to be a complete ...

... Oh Hi Mark!  

 

To those of us who have seen so many scams and hoaxes before, it's a very obvious hoax.  It's been around for years, and actually made the news some years back.

But desperation clouds perception.  The only people who fall for this, and other more malignant hoaxes and scams, are the people who need for them to be true the most - which is what makes these hoaxes particularly despicable.  

Sadly, Mark falls in to that category, and will find himself clutching at any and every straw that is offered, even the ones that are obviously too good to be true.

Luckily, this is just a hoax, not a scam, so no risk of harm from it.

And luckily, he's got you guys watching out for him too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mark adair 976]

?? won't let me delete the post just about my luck. I have got rid of the email tho thanks guys ???? you are very much right GB need to think a wee bit before doing silly things thanks again guys