Grundy 730 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Regardless of whether the betting rule is good, bad, or whatever, Barton has broken it and I don't think we employ anyone without making them aware of the rules. I just hope this gives the club the right to sack him without any compensation as he has already brought enough negative publicity. We don't need him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
folkestoneger 7,972 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 8 minutes ago, Grundy said: Regardless of whether the betting rule is good, bad, or whatever, Barton has broken it and I don't think we employ anyone without making them aware of the rules. I just hope this gives the club the right to sack him without any compensation as he has already brought enough negative publicity. We don't need him. No he shouldn't have had a bet but frankly it is a ridiculous rule. What the fuck has it to do with the SFA or anyone else if you bet on a game not involving yourself? It should not even be against the rules to bet on your own game as long as you are betting to win so cannot be accused of not trying. Inspector Sams and Malvern 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Dangerously 7,562 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Do you think we will ever see a taig player get done with this? (stop laughing at the back) Bobby Hume and Band of Brothers 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemc 305 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 The way i see it if you don't bet on the game your playing there shouldn't be a problem. I've seen a few guys who play in the 1st and 2nd divisions with the clubs tracksuits on in the bookies putting on coupons and nobody bothers about it, their just like us they like a wee bet on the football on a saturday Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy 730 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 7 minutes ago, folkestoneger said: No he shouldn't have had a bet but frankly it is a ridiculous rule. What the fuck has it to do with the SFA or anyone else if you bet on a game not involving yourself? It should not even be against the rules to bet on your own game as long as you are betting to win so cannot be accused of not trying. I don't disagree with any of your points but I'm just hoping there's a way we can sack him without paying him money we don't have. I believe he has been disrespectful to Mark Warburton and will disrupt team harmony. He has added nothing to the team, so far, and probably never will. An adventurous but flawed signing which went against the manager's signing policy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Just heard on the radio that only one of the 44 beats involved a Scottish club. That was for Celtic to get beaten by Barcelona. Barton hasn't done much wrong here it's a stupid rule. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Supersonic 4,654 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Why would he not just do it through some other cunt if he wanted to put a bet on the footy? He knew fine and well, as everyone does it's a rule, stupid or not. He'll still be back though sadly, just later than expected. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
born a blue nose 90,381 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Surely it would be worse him betting on games down south as thats where he will have alot of pals/ex team mates playing? Daft rule anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger ranger 922 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 2 hours ago, Smile said: All footballers bet it's funny it's mainly Rangers player getting targeted here. That's not true, quite a few players have been given varying bans over the last year, even the worst scenario of betting on a games you were playing in resulted in a six match ban and four of them suspended. Barton will probably get a one or two match ban, but then again. Smile 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KingKirk 25,461 Posted October 5, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2016 Its a fuckin daft rule Scottish footballers can't bet on any football worldwide whilst 3 of Scotland's major comps are sponsored by bookies hypocrites the lot of them. harlands plater, Bears r us, Bluepeter9 and 10 others 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RFCRobertson 11,705 Posted October 5, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, KingKirk said: Its a fuckin daft rule Scottish footballers can't bet on any football worldwide whilst 3 of Scotland's major comps are sponsored by bookies hypocrites the lot of them Sponsored by booze (Carling, Tennents, Mangers) players aren't encouraged to drink though Sponsored by betting companies (32Red, dafabet) players are forbidden to bet Sponsored by eyewear companies (Specsavers) Referees can't see a fucking thing Irony? Scottish Football has it in abundance. He's blue he's white, jintybear, Moobs and 28 others 31 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,461 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 1 minute ago, RFCRobertson said: Sponsored by booze (Carling, Tennents, Mangers) players aren't encouraged to drink though Sponsored by betting companies (32Red, dafabet) players are forbidden to bet Sponsored by eyewear companies (Specsavers) Referees can't see a fucking thing Irony? Scottish Football has it in abundance. bang on the money mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reformation Bear 6,453 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 The betting charge so soon after signing for Rangers throws up a number of so far seemingly unanswered questions. Such as............. Does the contract Rangers drew up make it clear that betting is not permitted? I mean expressly clear and not just buried inside a general catch-all clause about complying with SFA rules. Rangers' reputation had recently been tarnished by the Black betting fiasco so it was up to the Club to review its contract terms and make damn sure the prohibition on betting was spelled out in clear, simple Janet and John terms that even dense footballers and even denser agents could not fail to understand. If the contract was expressly clear on this subject then Barton and his reps must have been aware of this when he signed the contract so more fool him for disregarding his contract terms. I suppose the contract should list events and / or behaviours that individually or cumulatively would be deemed to be gross misconduct (eg striking a colleague or theft and so on). If a 'no-betting' clause was one of them then that could be the end for Barton at Rangers without any further ado. Dismissal for gross misconduct. Contract terminated. No compensation to the player. But did the Club write the contract in such a way that any proven acts of betting would be deemed to be gross misconduct? If not - bearing in mind the already tarnished reputation - then why not? We'll never know of course because of the silence from within the Club on these matters. Did Rangers HR people and / or the Manager not brief new players on the 'no betting' rule? Again bearing in mind the only too recent Black scandal you'd think new players would be taken to one side on arrival and briefed on do's and don'ts relating to the SFA rules and the traditions of the Club. If that has not happened - or not briefed well enough - then the Club is to some extent at fault for it should have made sure that sort of briefing was included when inducting new staff into Rangers. If it did happen then, again, hell mend Barton for being so arrogant as to ignore the messages. Again, its doubtful we'll ever know as ostrich mentality will apply until the controversy blows over. I suppose the question could be out there which wonders whether Barton knew at some stage he was breaking rules but continued anyway. Then why do this? Maybe as a device to get out of a contract he may now regret having signed. We'll never know. Again, the enforced silence from Club and player only creates space to speculate. But why place bets and continue to place them if you knew it was likely to be discovered and you knew it was a breach of SFA (and therefore Club) rules? And as a result it was entirely foreseeable that it would put Barton at odds with not only the SFA but the Club and the Support. Barton will know full well that the court of Rangers opinion, formed out of whatever actual fact is known and out of speculation where neither the Club or Barton make facts available, will pronounce its verdict long before any SFA court. I do not currently see how Barton will emerge from this and still hope to be an effective player for Rangers. Equally, I cannot see how the Club comes out of this well unless it had indeed made it expressly clear to Barton in his contract and as part of induction briefing that betting was not permitted and if carried out would be a serious offence. We've had more than most Supporters should be asked to stomach with all the financial and off-field misbehaviours over the last 4 years. To have that translated to on-field football matters is stuff we could do without. Its enough this season to have been disappointingly strung along by Club spokesmen that we are just to be 'competitive' or just 'highly competitive' this season. Now the potential for a scandal-fuelled Barton looks like it could rumble on well through at least the first half of an already less than ideal season. ...... Bad Robot, HG5 and Bobby Hume 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BLUEDIGNITY 33,610 Posted October 5, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2016 Fuck me if you don't laugh you'll greet !???? Supersonic, True Hair Bear, GrizzlyBear72 and 6 others 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_dado 25 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 This guy was never going to fit well with a club that expects it's players to carry themselves with dignity and respect. He should be fired for embarrassing the club with all this bullshit, no matter how much we dislike them one of our players should not be calling out their captain or manager and a certain level of respect should be upheld between players on both sides it's just the way it is. It appears he has disrespected our manager, and now this betting nonsense, we punted a club legend like Barry Ferguson for not living up to the Rangers standard why should this clown get away with his one man circus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT 8,293 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Listening to Talksport earlier tonight , journo reckons we will throw the book at Barton , to get him out the door . If he's to be found guilty and gets a ban Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 24 minutes ago, BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT said: Listening to Talksport earlier tonight , journo reckons we will throw the book at Barton , to get him out the door . If he's to be found guilty and gets a ban How could he possibly know that? Another leak from within the club? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 70,940 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 1 minute ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: How could he possibly know that? Another leak from within the club? He gave his opinion on what he thinks will happen. Nothing about knowing. BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,705 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 20 minutes ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: How could he possibly know that? Another leak from within the club? Someone on twitter was saying that of the 44 bets, only 1 related to Scottish football which was Celtic to get beat by Barcelona by at least 3 goals and that a one match ban is most likely. Ian Black got a bigger punishment because a lot of his bets were related to Scottish football, such as betting against us at least 3 times. but in saying that he had bet over 130 matches in a 7 year time period. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 24 minutes ago, RFCRobertson said: Someone on twitter was saying that of the 44 bets, only 1 related to Scottish football which was Celtic to get beat by Barcelona by at least 3 goals and that a one match ban is most likely. Ian Black got a bigger punishment because a lot of his bets were related to Scottish football, such as betting against us at least 3 times. but in saying that he had bet over 130 matches in a 7 year time period. I read the tweets you're talking about earlier. I'm certain Barton will get a ban but expect it to be one or two matches at most. These comments about Rangers using this issue as an excuse to drive the player out the club are new to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCRobertson 11,705 Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 9 minutes ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: I read the tweets you're talking about earlier. I'm certain Barton will get a ban but expect it to be one or two matches at most. These comments about Rangers using this issue as an excuse to drive the player out the club are new to me. The only way I could see that happening is the club taking the stance off "You've fucked up twice in quick succession, the second time during a punishment". Stated that way, it could be possible? It's hard to say, either way it's bringing the wrong kind of attention to Rangers in a way since it's RANGERS players Joey Barton who signed for RANGERS and plays for RANGERS but was suspended by RANGERS following a bust up at the RANGERS training facility where RANGERS players train to play for RANGERS. and gives journos who hate us ammo to voice their hatred. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackunion 536 Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 I can't remember where I heard it, but not long after he signed for us he was talking about wages in the EPL and he mentioned that after all the summer transfers had gone through it seemed that it was only him that took a wage cut whilst bang average players where getting big money moves. He seemed very envious of it and alarm bells have rung since then. The interview Must have been on talksport Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,592 Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 2 hours ago, BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT said: Listening to Talksport earlier tonight , journo reckons we will throw the book at Barton , to get him out the door . If he's to be found guilty and gets a ban Wont happen as we let Black off the hook and will be used against us if we try to dump Barton. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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