royal borough 27 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 As a Brentford fan reading the comments on here about Mark Warburton doesn't surprise me .The style of football he employed was our defenders were always exposed and looked at times as someone on here best described a bomb scare . The fact was in his last season at Brentford we never beat any of the top eight teams in the championships. that gives an indication against better teams the system he employs of 4-3-3 simply doesn't work with the standard of players we had. we had good players but they weren't Barcelona .I believe the fallout between the Owner Benham and Warburton was Benham employed a team of professional annalist too recruit players called a money ball system used heavily in the states based on statistics https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/oct/15/brentford-owner-matthew-benham-hates-moneyballinfluence he probably had no influence in the players being brought to the club . We had reasonable players but a system that only worked against players that technical weren't as good. We even noticed sometimes in the last 15 mins of a game our fitness levels dropped and i'm not sure if that was down to over training or not enough training. My expectations of my team are low so anything better then third tier football is amazing but Benham has invested around 75 million into the club up to now, so even when Warburton got us promoted it was reported we had the second highest wage bill in the first division (third tier) Our long standing defender Kevin O'Connor was ecstatic to jump ship when he was offered a coaching role at the club. Friends close too him reported under Warburton it was the most stressful time of his career as he basically had enough of being slated every week . The style of play means The midfield gets overrun and the forwards become spectators . I always remember against Middlesbrough how they pressed us even from the back and we couldn't get the ball out of are own half it was painful the middlesbrough defence pushed up to the half way line and we had no outlet the players really looked as though they would get into trouble if they would punt it up field. Middlesbrough's midfield were basically camped in our penalty area and their midfielders spraying balls across our penalty area as our defenders were helpless I think he is a genuine nice bloke but I think now Brentford look more solid and difficult team to play against we didn't reach the play offs last year but we did sell about 11 million pounds worth of players too balance the books . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 If that's your first post then you didn't tell anybody(on here). So kindly fuck off please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,347 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 £11million pounds in players that MW brought in no doubt Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,372 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Did ye, aye? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackrfc95 4,255 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 You didn't tell us that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,810 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 15 minutes ago, plumbGER said: If that's your first post then you didn't tell anybody(on here). So kindly fuck off please. Is there really any need for that? The guy is bang on in describing what we are watching. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 A guy who supported Brentford posted word for word what the posters saying when Warburton first came to us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser1041 9,088 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 No one told us we don't care Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, JCDBigBear said: Is there really any need for that? The guy is bang on in describing what we are watching. If he is a genuine Brentford fan, then no. But i have my doubts. That information can be easily gathered from a Brentford forum by an obsessed one. My point was, the thread title "we told you" He obviously never with it being his first post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDBigBear 10,810 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Just now, plumbGER said: If he is a genuine Brentford fan, then no. But i have my doubts. That information can be easily gathered from a Brentford forum by an obsessed one. My point was, the thread title "we told you" He obviously never with it being his first post. I seem to remember Brentford fan posting or being quoted when MW first came to RFC. The guy today said we told you not I told you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu 981 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 11 minutes ago, plumbGER said: If he is a genuine Brentford fan, then no. But i have my doubts. That information can be easily gathered from a Brentford forum by an obsessed one. My point was, the thread title "we told you" He obviously never with it being his first post. You really do go on the guy is only telling us what we are starting to see Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sket 13,610 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 38 minutes ago, royal borough said: As a Brentford fan reading the comments on here about Mark Warburton doesn't surprise me .The style of football he employed was our defenders were always exposed and looked at times as someone on here best described a bomb scare . The fact was in his last season at Brentford we never beat any of the top eight teams in the championships. that gives an indication against better teams the system he employs of 4-3-3 simply doesn't work with the standard of players we had. we had good players but they weren't Barcelona .I believe the fallout between the Owner Benham and Warburton was Benham employed a team of professional annalist too recruit players called a money ball system used heavily in the states based on statistics https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/oct/15/brentford-owner-matthew-benham-hates-moneyballinfluence he probably had no influence in the players being brought to the club . We had reasonable players but a system that only worked against players that technical weren't as good. We even noticed sometimes in the last 15 mins of a game our fitness levels dropped and i'm not sure if that was down to over training or not enough training. My expectations of my team are low so anything better then third tier football is amazing but Benham has invested around 75 million into the club up to now, so even when Warburton got us promoted it was reported we had the second highest wage bill in the first division (third tier) Our long standing defender Kevin O'Connor was ecstatic to jump ship when he was offered a coaching role at the club. Friends close too him reported under Warburton it was the most stressful time of his career as he basically had enough of being slated every week . The style of play means The midfield gets overrun and the forwards become spectators . I always remember against Middlesbrough how they pressed us even from the back and we couldn't get the ball out of are own half it was painful the middlesbrough defence pushed up to the half way line and we had no outlet the players really looked as though they would get into trouble if they would punt it up field. Middlesbrough's midfield were basically camped in our penalty area and their midfielders spraying balls across our penalty area as our defenders were helpless I think he is a genuine nice bloke but I think now Brentford look more solid and difficult team to play against we didn't reach the play offs last year but we did sell about 11 million pounds worth of players too balance the books . Just you worry about your own shitey wee team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Who cares? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuistraHairDo 12,489 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 give yourself a pat on the back, well done. mystic meg is quaking in her knee high boots. although how you could have told anybody when this is your first post on this site is quite miraculous, you must be old school like Uri Geller. I doth my cap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF2 WINNIE 1,006 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Did you fuck I remember Brentford fans coming on and telling us about how gutted they were at losing Warburton and that he would be an excellent manager for us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Fantana 28,894 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 38 minutes ago, kaiser1041 said: No one told us we don't care ahem... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hilts 12,819 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 He had reasonable success at Brentford in the Championship so it's easy to understand how many thought he would do a decent job in the piss poor Scottish Premiership. I do remember him having a few doubters in his defensive frailties however. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 36 minutes ago, JCDBigBear said: I seem to remember Brentford fan posting or being quoted when MW first came to RFC. The guy today said we told you not I told you. I remember that too. I also remember, as others have mentioned, Brentford fans gutted about losing him and posting it in here. So "he" is not part of "we". Ok. Forgive me for being suspicious of new posters who start off with saying "we told you so" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 29 minutes ago, Zulu said: You really do go on the guy is only telling us what we are starting to see We can see with our own eyes, we don't need other people to point our weaknesses. I, for one, seen noticable weaknesses since about the turn of the year last year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1872 20,654 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Tbh I remember a few Brentford fans highlighting the same kind of chat above. Similar to a couple of Brentford players saying the same thing also. It's just blind loyalty that the Rangers fans are getting behind him because everything is pretty much pointing to him being unable to make the step up that we require. Don't bother giving me the "aye but we are only a point off second place pish" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, B1872 said: Tbh I remember a few Brentford fans highlighting the same kind of chat above. Similar to a couple of Brentford players saying the same thing also. It's just blind loyalty that the Rangers fans are getting behind him because everything is pretty much pointing to him being unable to make the step up that we require. Don't bother giving me the "aye but we are only a point off second place pish" What do you suggest we do? No blind loyalty from me either. Questions need asked of his performance and i am on record as saying that. He demands the players be flexible when he is rigid in his outlook, that's what annoys me the most. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patchydoodle 4 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 hour ago, plumbGER said: If that's your first post then you didn't tell anybody(on here). So kindly fuck off please. An intelligent thoughtful post and this is the knuckle dragging response - quick count my posts and launch abuse at me Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 14 minutes ago, patchydoodle said: An intelligent thoughtful post and this is the knuckle dragging response - quick count my posts and launch abuse at me Irony overload. *edit* just noticed the contribution from Smile. Nothing intelligent and thoughtful about copying and pasting a post from someone else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim beam 2,188 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Telling us what we have found out ourselves Unfortunately. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiser1041 9,088 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 31 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said: ahem... I ain't reading that for fear of being wrong Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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