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1 hour ago, Bears r us said:

The only punishment they will get IMO is if they are taken to court and they have to pay big sums of money out.

I agree about any enquiry, that will never happen and anything the SFA come up with will be about the future and how everything is fine now, nothing will be done about those who knew and let it continue for for years and years. I do hope I am wrong but that is my guy feeling about it. 

My gut feeling also. The FA inquiry asked 12 football clubs to give a detailed report on how they handled abuse complaints against employees dated from 1970-2005. If they ask separate entity to do that they’ll either have to lie or they’re fucked. SFA won’t do it. The FA inquiry also investigated if there was any institutional cover-ups in that period again SFA will not do it.

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25 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said:

My gut feeling also. The FA inquiry asked 12 football clubs to give a detailed report on how they handled abuse complaints against employees dated from 1970-2005. If they ask separate entity to do that they’ll either have to lie or they’re fucked. SFA won’t do it. The FA inquiry also investigated if there was any institutional cover-ups in that period again SFA will not do it.

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I did not know how that was done by the FA, but agree that the SFA will never press them about anything. 

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2 minutes ago, Bears r us said:

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I did not know how that was done by the FA, but agree that the SFA will never press them about anything. 

“The independent inquiry into football’s sexual-abuse scandal is expected to report back to the Football Association that there is no evidence of an institutional cover-up at the top of the sport or of a paedophile ring operating within the game, it can be revealed.The inquiry, led by Clive Sheldon QC, was launched in December 2016 after Andy Woodward’s interview in the Guardian led to what the FA chairman, Greg Clarke, has described as the biggest crisis in the history of the sport,”

 

How it’s getting handled down south compared to here is night and day.

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2 hours ago, Bears r us said:

The only punishment they will get IMO is if they are taken to court and they have to pay big sums of money out.

I agree about any enquiry, that will never happen and anything the SFA come up with will be about the future and how everything is fine now, nothing will be done about those who knew and let it continue for for years and years. I do hope I am wrong but that is my guy feeling about it. 

Without the government enforcing an enquiry it will never happen at the hands of the SFA.

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42 minutes ago, BRITNEY IS NOT FEELING IT said:

N there was brendan ohara mp telling the story of mcneil to parliament last night ,think the only thing he left out was ,he knew too :britney: 

the thick micks would be better off keeping guilty names away from any kind of praise just now 

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4 minutes ago, geneva_ger said:

Is this on todays front page?

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think i saw that somewhere online Thursday. but the Scottish edition had a different story altogether 

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1 hour ago, geneva_ger said:

Is this on todays front page?

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This was posted at the weekend mate and when I asked if it was real the answer was no, photo shop or similar. 

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2 minutes ago, Bears r us said:

This was posted at the weekend mate and when I asked if it was real the answer was no, photo shop or similar. 

Doesn't matter mate, makes a good card display.

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Frank Cairney loses bail bid

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-48380551

 

An ex-celtic Boys Club manager jailed for sexually abusing young footballers has lost a bid to be released on bail while appealing his conviction.

Frank Cairney, 83, was sentenced to four years in prison on nine charges dating back to the 1980s.

He had asked to be granted bail on health grounds but the request was turned down by a judge at the Appeal Court in Edinburgh.

Cairney was acquitted of similar charges 20 years ago.

His trial at Hamilton Sheriff Court last December heard his victims had suffered badly from the abuse.

Sheriff Daniel Kelly described Cairney as a "wolf in sheep's clothing".

Cairney is among four former celtic Boys Club coaches to be convicted of child sex abuse in recent months.

'Deep regret'

In November, Boys Club founder Jim Torbett was jailed for six years, while another coach, teacher Gerald King, was also convicted of abusing boys at a school.

Earlier this month, 73-year-old Jim McCafferty was given a further jail sentenceafter admitting a series of child sex abuse crimes.

He was sentenced to six years and nine months after he admitted 12 charges related to attacks on 10 teenage boys between 1972 and 1996.

He was already serving a jail term for abuse.

After the conviction of Torbett, celtic expressed "deep regret" for the victims but stressed the boys club was a separate entity.

The club made a similar statement following the conviction of Cairney.

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This is good news for the family's of the abused boys as it was causing a lot of distress that there could be the possibility he could have been released pending the appeal.

It's enough that the family's have to endure the appeal aswell as being trolled by vile individual/individuals taunting them regarding the death of a victim (Torbett/William Gilbert).

Pal of celtic Boys' Club beast Jim Torbett trolls family of victim withsick online abuse: https://www.BOYCOTT THIS LINK/news/scottish-news/pal-celtic-boys-club-beast-16180227  

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Picked this up from ff.

celtic Football Club have refused to sever business links with child molester Jim Torbett. 

The club are still awarding lucrative contracts to Torbett's merchandising firm despite his conviction for assaulting young footballers. 

Officials promised to review commercial links with millionaire Torbett - who founded celtic Boys' Club - after he was jailed five months ago. 

But his company, The Trophy Centre, continue to supply official club merchandise, including clothing, scarves and mugs. 

One of his victims yesterday bitterly criticised the club for continuing to put money into Torbett's pocket. 

James McGrory, now 44, was one of three boys molested by Torbett, who was jailed for two years in November.

Mr McGrory's lawyers have written to celtic to express his horror. 

Solicitor Iain Cochrane said: "Mr McGrory was surprised and distressed to discover celtic's continuing business relationship. 

"This was particularly surprising given the club's public comments at the time of the conviction." 

Mr Cochrane said the replies from Parkhead had been high-handed and dismissive and the club refused even to confirm that Torbett's company were still winning contracts. 

Company secretary Heather Barton merely insisted the club always acted "in the best interests of supporters". 

Torbett, 51, was jailed for molesting three young celtic Boys' Club players. 

Sheriff Margaret Gimblett told him: "These children were football mad with stars in their eyes. 

"You knew that and betrayed that trust. There can be no hiding place for people who abuse children." 

Torbett's abuse was exposed in a series of award-winning Daily Record articles in August 1996. 

He used his position as coach to abuse the boys, including Alan Brazil who went on to play for Scotland. 

Records at Companies House, in Edinburgh, reveal Torbett remains a director and principal shareholder of The Trophy Centre. 

Staff from the firm supported Torbett during his trial and Sheriff Gimblett revealed that only the testimonials they wrote on his behalf saved him from a longer sentence. 

Yesterday, Trophy Centre director Gerry McAleer confirmed the company continued to supply celtic but claimed not to know Torbett's status with the firm.
COPYRIGHT 1999 Scottish Daily Record & Sunday


This same Heather Barton is still in place at the SFA protecting bheast interests ?

Heather Anne Barton


Director Summary

Heather Anne Barton has 9 company director or secretary appointments.
Short name - Heather Barton
Director ID : 906964132
Year of Birth: 1967


Company Summary
Company Name Company Status
THE SCOTTISH FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION MUSEUM TRUST Active
HAMPDEN PARK LIMITED Active
THE celtic FOOTBALL AND ATHLETIC COMPANY LIMITED Active (Company Secretary Resigned 31/12/1999)
celtic PLC Active (Company Secretary Resigned 31/12/1999)
celtic F.C. DEVELOPMENT FUND LIMITED Active (Company Secretary Resigned 31/12/1999)
celtic DEVELOPMENT POOLS LIMITED Active (Company Secretary Resigned 31/12/1999)
GLASGOW EASTERN DEVELOPMENTS LIMITED Active (Company Secretary Resigned 31/12/1999)
PROTECTEVENT LIMITED Active (Company Secretary Resigned 31/12/1999)
SCOTBALL TRAVEL AND LEISURE LIMITED Dissolved

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1 hour ago, Jonok said:

Picked this up from ff.

celtic Football Club have refused to sever business links with child molester Jim Torbett. 

The club are still awarding lucrative contracts to Torbett's merchandising firm despite his conviction for assaulting young footballers. 

Officials promised to review commercial links with millionaire Torbett - who founded celtic Boys' Club - after he was jailed five months ago. 

But his company, The Trophy Centre, continue to supply official club merchandise, including clothing, scarves and mugs. 

One of his victims yesterday bitterly criticised the club for continuing to put money into Torbett's pocket. 

James McGrory, now 44, was one of three boys molested by Torbett, who was jailed for two years in November.

Mr McGrory's lawyers have written to celtic to express his horror. 

Solicitor Iain Cochrane said: "Mr McGrory was surprised and distressed to discover celtic's continuing business relationship. 

"This was particularly surprising given the club's public comments at the time of the conviction." 

Mr Cochrane said the replies from Parkhead had been high-handed and dismissive and the club refused even to confirm that Torbett's company were still winning contracts. 

Company secretary Heather Barton merely insisted the club always acted "in the best interests of supporters". 

Torbett, 51, was jailed for molesting three young celtic Boys' Club players. 

Sheriff Margaret Gimblett told him: "These children were football mad with stars in their eyes. 

"You knew that and betrayed that trust. There can be no hiding place for people who abuse children." 

Torbett's abuse was exposed in a series of award-winning Daily Record articles in August 1996. 

He used his position as coach to abuse the boys, including Alan Brazil who went on to play for Scotland. 

Records at Companies House, in Edinburgh, reveal Torbett remains a director and principal shareholder of The Trophy Centre. 

Staff from the firm supported Torbett during his trial and Sheriff Gimblett revealed that only the testimonials they wrote on his behalf saved him from a longer sentence. 

Yesterday, Trophy Centre director Gerry McAleer confirmed the company continued to supply celtic but claimed not to know Torbett's status with the firm.
COPYRIGHT 1999 Scottish Daily Record & Sunday


This same Heather Barton is still in place at the SFA protecting bheast interests ?

Heather Anne Barton


Director Summary

Heather Anne Barton has 9 company director or secretary appointments.
Short name - Heather Barton
Director ID : 906964132
Year of Birth: 1967


Company Summary
Company Name Company Status
THE SCOTTISH FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION MUSEUM TRUST Active
HAMPDEN PARK LIMITED Active
THE celtic FOOTBALL AND ATHLETIC COMPANY LIMITED Active (Company Secretary Resigned 31/12/1999)
celtic PLC Active (Company Secretary Resigned 31/12/1999)
celtic F.C. DEVELOPMENT FUND LIMITED Active (Company Secretary Resigned 31/12/1999)
celtic DEVELOPMENT POOLS LIMITED Active (Company Secretary Resigned 31/12/1999)
GLASGOW EASTERN DEVELOPMENTS LIMITED Active (Company Secretary Resigned 31/12/1999)
PROTECTEVENT LIMITED Active (Company Secretary Resigned 31/12/1999)
SCOTBALL TRAVEL AND LEISURE LIMITED Dissolved

Joining the dots.....

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Southampton coach was at the wrong doing as well ffs ,

Well done to those courageous enough to come forward to tell the truth about what happened to them ,whilst they were teens 

 

A former youth football coach who held "supreme power" over the futures of budding players has been found guilty of indecently assaulting boys.

Bob Higgins sexually touched and groped 24 victims, most of them trainees at Southampton FC and Peterborough United, between 1971 and 1996.

Bournemouth Crown Court heard his status as a "God-like" figure enabled his decades-long campaign of abuse.

A jury found him guilty of 45 counts of indecent assault.

Higgins' conviction will allow a Football Association (FA) review into child sex abuse allegations to conclude its investigations, a spokesman said.

The independent review, led by Clive Sheldon QC, would continue working to establish what the clubs and the FA knew about Higgins.

During Higgins' trial, prosecutors told the court the defendant was "idolised" by trainees, who viewed him as a mentor and father figure.

 Dean Radford said trainees treated Bob Higgins like "god"

Victims said they were abused during post-exercise soapy massages, in Higgins' car while he played love songs on the stereo and at his home where he cuddled with boys on his sofa

Adam Feest QC said Higgins had shown a "systematic and all-pervasive pattern of grooming behaviour" in gaining the trust of the boys and of their parents.

'Keep quiet or risk losing everything'

 

During his time as a coach, Bob Higgins worked with young footballers who would go on to become national heroes and household names.

But others were not so fortunate.

Some were haunted by their ordeals, and gave up on football entirely.

Such was Higgins hold over those he abused, many felt unable to say anything, even to close family members, for up to 30 years.

Read more: The 'star-maker' who abused young footballers

The allegations arose after the NSPCC set up a dedicated helpline for people who had encountered childhood abuse within football.

It was launched after a number of former footballers, including Billy Seymour, spoke on the BBC's Victoria Derbyshire programme in November 2016.

Higgins faced trial last year, but a retrial was ordered after jurors failed to reach a verdict on all but one count of indecent assault.

Billy Seymour died in a car crash in January

Mr Seymour, a Southampton youth player who went on to play for Coventry City and Millwall, waived his right to anonymity to speak publicly.

He gave evidence at last year's trial but was killed in a car crash in January before he could give evidence at the retrial.

'Arrogance and lies'

Quiet sobbing from the packed public gallery became audible as guilty verdicts were returned on all six counts relating to Mr Seymour.

Higgins showed no emotion as the jury returned verdicts after more than 41 hours of deliberations.

In a joint statement issued through police, his victims said: "Higgins's arrogance and lies have finally caught up with him.

"When Bob Higgins returned to court eight weeks ago, he gave a clear message to us all with his continued refusal to accept responsibility for what he did to us as children. However, that message made us all stronger and more determined.

"At last, after all these years, we can finally get a sense of closure and try to move on from this nightmare."

'It doesn't disappear'

Greg Llewellyn waived his right to anonymity following the end of the trial

At Higgins' earlier trial, the single guilty count related to former Southampton junior player Greg Llewellyn.

He was abused in the defendant's car around the time of his 14th birthday on their way to a training session.

He said he had an "overwhelming sense of anger" afterwards and had punched Higgins during the practice.

Now aged 50, he said the ordeal had "caused me many difficulties in relationships, marriage, none of those positive."

"It doesn't disappear because there are always circumstances or scenarios that remind you of what happened," he said.

Although responsibility for the abuse lies with Higgins, Mr Llewellyn said Southampton FC could have done more to protect the young players.

He said the coach's "total carte blanche control" allowed him to do things "that simply wouldn't happen today".

"I can't hold the club responsible but you have to point the finger and there was some negligence there but there was only one perpetrator," he said.

Det Ch Insp Dave Brown, of Hampshire Police, said Higgins' victims suffered "horrendous experiences" at the hands of a "predatory paedophile"

"He thrived on controlling and manipulating his victims and knowing that he held the career prospects of many young men in his hands." he said

Bob Higgins "did not speak a single word" during 15 hours of interviews, police said

Police believe there could be more victims, who Det Ch Insp Brown urged to come forward.

Higgins is due to be sentenced at a later date.

Southampton FC said it offered its "sympathy and support to any player who suffered any kind of abuse or harm while under our care".

A statement said: "We have been working closely with the police, the FA and the Sheldon review for nearly three years to help to uncover the truth.

"While the offences cited are historic, the club is committed to constantly reviewing our current safeguarding provision to raise standards."

His is the latest in a string of high-profile prosecutions of former football coaches.

Earlier this month Jim McCafferty, 73, a coach and kit man for the celtic youth team was jailed for six years nine months after admitting a series of child sex abuse crimes

George Ormond, who helped in Newcastle United's youth set up, was convicted of a string of sex abuse offences spanning 25 years

Last February Barry Bennell, who worked at Manchester City and Crewe Alexandra, was jailed for 31 years for 50 counts of child sexual abuse

Michael 'Kit' Carson, who worked at Norwich City, Peterborough United and Cambridge United, died in a car crash on the day he was due to face trial

The FA also said its review was also awaiting the outcome of further investigations into allegations of abuse by Barry Bennell.

A BBC South Today documentary about the Higgins case, A Saint and a Sinner, is available until 21 June on BBC iPlayer

 

 

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John Halley Advocate

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I'm concerned that adverse news stories appear to be closed down in Scotland. The Scottish Govt's media advisers work hard at this all day, every day, at great cost to the public purse.

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Exactly. I’m also astounded that this hasn’t been reported within the main stream media in Scotland.... 

 

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On 23/05/2019 at 11:53, Jonok said:

Picked this up from ff.

celtic Football Club have refused to sever business links with child molester Jim Torbett. 

The club are still awarding lucrative contracts to Torbett's merchandising firm despite his conviction for assaulting young footballers. 

Officials promised to review commercial links with millionaire Torbett - who founded celtic Boys' Club - after he was jailed five months ago. 

But his company, The Trophy Centre, continue to supply official club merchandise, including clothing, scarves and mugs. 

One of his victims yesterday bitterly criticised the club for continuing to put money into Torbett's pocket. 

James McGrory, now 44, was one of three boys molested by Torbett, who was jailed for two years in November.

Mr McGrory's lawyers have written to celtic to express his horror. 

Solicitor Iain Cochrane said: "Mr McGrory was surprised and distressed to discover celtic's continuing business relationship. 

"This was particularly surprising given the club's public comments at the time of the conviction." 

Mr Cochrane said the replies from Parkhead had been high-handed and dismissive and the club refused even to confirm that Torbett's company were still winning contracts. 

Company secretary Heather Barton merely insisted the club always acted "in the best interests of supporters". 

Torbett, 51, was jailed for molesting three young celtic Boys' Club players. 

Sheriff Margaret Gimblett told him: "These children were football mad with stars in their eyes. 

"You knew that and betrayed that trust. There can be no hiding place for people who abuse children." 

Torbett's abuse was exposed in a series of award-winning Daily Record articles in August 1996. 

He used his position as coach to abuse the boys, including Alan Brazil who went on to play for Scotland. 

Records at Companies House, in Edinburgh, reveal Torbett remains a director and principal shareholder of The Trophy Centre. 

Staff from the firm supported Torbett during his trial and Sheriff Gimblett revealed that only the testimonials they wrote on his behalf saved him from a longer sentence. 

Yesterday, Trophy Centre director Gerry McAleer confirmed the company continued to supply celtic but claimed not to know Torbett's status with the firm.
COPYRIGHT 1999 Scottish Daily Record & Sunday


This same Heather Barton is still in place at the SFA protecting bheast interests ?

Heather Anne Barton


Director Summary

Heather Anne Barton has 9 company director or secretary appointments.
Short name - Heather Barton
Director ID : 906964132
Year of Birth: 1967


Company Summary
Company Name Company Status
THE SCOTTISH FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION MUSEUM TRUST Active
HAMPDEN PARK LIMITED Active
THE celtic FOOTBALL AND ATHLETIC COMPANY LIMITED Active (Company Secretary Resigned 31/12/1999)
celtic PLC Active (Company Secretary Resigned 31/12/1999)
celtic F.C. DEVELOPMENT FUND LIMITED Active (Company Secretary Resigned 31/12/1999)
celtic DEVELOPMENT POOLS LIMITED Active (Company Secretary Resigned 31/12/1999)
GLASGOW EASTERN DEVELOPMENTS LIMITED Active (Company Secretary Resigned 31/12/1999)
PROTECTEVENT LIMITED Active (Company Secretary Resigned 31/12/1999)
SCOTBALL TRAVEL AND LEISURE LIMITED Dissolved

Shed load of seperate entities in there, would take the fucking ghost busters to catch them all.

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