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3 hours ago, doonald said:

Surely Liewell is in a conflcit of interest here. He should recuse himself from any UEFA committee.

Agreed, Imho, he should recuse himself from any SFA/SPL committees  also.

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6 minutes ago, Sweetheart said:

To me, the announcement from them acknowledges the complaints made to UEFA.  I expect they have to follow a chain of procedure and as the SFA have said they are working  with the police to introduce safe guards and assisting them with their enquiries, then UEFA is right to say they trust them.

On the criminal side of matters I can't see what the SFA or UEFA can do at present. it's a police matter, Once guilt of a cover up has been established then the SFA/UEFA can step in with sanctions.

For me that statement merely affords the SFA the scope it needs to sweep it under their big cover up carpet. 

UEFA have unambiguously roman catholic style 'washed their hands of it'.

Fuckers.

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Just now, Blueray said:

For me that statement merely affords the SFA to sweep it under their big cover up carpet. 

UEFA have unambiguously roman catholic style 'washed their hands of it'.

Fuckers.

How so? It's a police matter until guilt is established. Once that happens  sanctions can be given. I can't see it being swept under the carpet as  celtics pr company can't stop the SMPs asking questions of them 

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2 minutes ago, Sweetheart said:

How so? It's a police matter until guilt is established. Once that happens  sanctions can be given. I can't see it being swept under the carpet as  celtics pr company can't stop the SMPs asking questions of them 

Would you care for the official spin from them or what would be their likely unofficial line?

Both would be describing how it would be swept under their big snp fenian cover up carpet.

Get real now.

 

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15 minutes ago, Sweetheart said:

It's clear to see that celtic are trying to cover this up , they haven't answered the MSPs questions, they've not said sorry or offered a compensation scheme to the victims and now they've hired PR specialists to gag the press, but that Tory MSP has said he and others in his party will carry on pursuing this.  I believe a few from the Labour party are also seeking justice for the victims.

A fair and pragmatic post.

It will take dogged relentless pursuance to keep it newsworthy as there are those who will in stark contrast very actively  seek to keep it from light. 

Its more likely to remain from light than otherwise due to the current occupiers of leftist filth power snp ira scum in my opinion. 

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1 minute ago, Blueray said:

A fair and pragmatic post.

It will take dogged relentless pursuance to keep it newsworthy as there are those who will very actively similarly seek to keep it from light. 

Its more likely to remain from light than otherwise due to the current occupiers of leftist filth power snp ira scum in my opinion. 

I see your point of view but Imho someone at celtic has the same sort of powers that savile had for hushing things up, I can't see Scotland yard letting them brush this under the carpet as all crimes of this type have to be reported to them from uk police forces as part of their operation 

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13 minutes ago, Sweetheart said:

I see your point of view but Imho someone at celtic has the same sort of powers that savile had for hushing things up, I can't see Scotland yard letting them brush this under the carpet as all crimes of this type have to be reported to them from uk police forces as part of their operation 

Likewise, i think you deserve due respect in reply.

However, if lets say the ruling scottish government doesn't take kindly to Scotland Yard becoming involved then in the same way  I'm sure Scotland Yard similar to Uefa's response would be that it is has full trust in scotland and its officialdom to investigate matters. Its highly unlikely in my opinion that any authority outwith scotland would wish to involve itself unless otherwise requested. 

I'm very sure that the fenian snp would  robustly reject Scotland Yard or any other outside body for that matter  from investigating alleged fenian child abuse.

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18 hours ago, Bears r us said:

We all hope you are correct with that S, but I am still sceptical that anything will happen to them from the SFA/SPFL side, but you never know. 

I fear the police are being stopped by the government from investigating those who knew and did nothing, 

I do believe at some point they will have to pay compensation and if it was done through court cases then that would take everything into the open, but again I can see that being done behind closed doors and that will mean it is out of sight to the general public. 

I do hope I am wrong Sweetheart and please keep posting anything that is positive and anything you find to back it up. 👍👍

I just hope that the TORY MSP  can do enough through his party to dispel this kind of evil, no child should have to experience something as horrific as that,  celtic owe the victims an apology as they failed in their duty to report these crimes to the police. The victims could have had closure if the club had acted differently instead the victims were left to suffer which altered the course of their lives as they tried to cope with what happened.

The highlighted bit in your post begs the question,  why would the government stop a police investigation into historical abuse in football, when they did not wish to add it to their own inquiry? 

10 hours ago, Malvern said:

You would think these two parties would be storming into Holyrood shouting and demanding answers from the first minister and justice minister about what the hell is going on. It is a political goldmine and will shame the Nazi party but the scum would be dealt a dangerous blow.

SMPs have been asking for an inquiry but it seems to be falling on deaf ears.  It does seem as though someone in the government doesn't want an investigation  into historical abuse in football., Why don't they want this?  Could investigating this expose a Holyrood scandal with just as much evil as the one found in Westminster?   

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On 06/07/2019 at 03:13, Blueray said:

Likewise, i think you deserve due respect in reply.

However, if lets say the ruling scottish government doesn't take kindly to Scotland Yard becoming involved then in the same way  I'm sure Scotland Yard similar to Uefa's response would be that it is has full trust in scotland and its officialdom to investigate matters. Its highly unlikely in my opinion that any authority outwith scotland would wish to involve itself unless otherwise requested. 

I'm very sure that the fenian snp would  robustly reject Scotland Yard or any other outside body for that matter  from investigating alleged fenian child abuse.

I do get your point but Scotland is still part of the union so I would presume they are following the procedure sent out to all UK police forces by operation Hydrant

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On ‎06‎/‎07‎/‎2019 at 02:20, Sweetheart said:

Agreed, Imho, he should recuse himself from any SFA/SPL committees  also.

Recuse . You been watching Billions :-)) That is a word I learned watching that .

The corruption and sweep sweep still on going it seems . What a cancerous Country we have become

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Jeffery Epstein, American billionaire and friend of the President, arrested for being a sexual predator for crimes committed  in 1997 -2005.  He did a year but because it was paid off,  they are coming after him again. You can't hide or cover it up in the States but you can in this country.

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40 minutes ago, eejay the dj said:

Recuse . You been watching Billions :-)) That is a word I learned watching that .

The corruption and sweep sweep still on going it seems . What a cancerous Country we have become

I had to use  google for 'recuse' :happy: but in this country people who should stand down are there because they 'knew' they needed to be there and so no chance of them standing down.

What should happen off course is the decision should be taken away form him and he should be made to stand down, but no one will challenge him because he already has his friends in place to protect him.  :headwall: 

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On 07/07/2019 at 12:30, Lets go 55 said:

Dear Ian,

Yours sincerely,

A. Concerned Chairman.

Kick them Out.

 

 

Ever since I read this post I have been wanting to ask is this a mock up or did it come from a chairman ?? I feel a bit of a prat for asking but I genuinely do  not know what is the correct answer. :unsure:  

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46 minutes ago, Bears r us said:

Ever since I read this post I have been wanting to ask is this a mock up or did it come from a chairman ?? I feel a bit of a prat for asking but I genuinely do  not know what is the correct answer. :unsure:  

Well sorry to tell you it's true, but only  if any of the chairmen including our own could grow a pair and call these cunts out.

Why they don't is anyone's guess, every person that is involved with the running of Scottish football should  hang their heads in shame, along with the Government that will stoop to the levels of hell to achieve their aims, 

How anyone with a braincell can vote for these cunts is beyond me. Aint no Tory but by fuck I will never vote for Labour when you have the Ira lovebhoys in charge 

Kick them Out. 

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3 minutes ago, Lets go 55 said:

Well sorry to tell you it's true, but only  if any of the chairmen including our own could grow a pair and call these cunts out.

Why they don't is anyone's guess, every person that is involved with the running of Scottish football should  hang their heads in shame, along with the Government that will stoop to the levels of hell to achieve their aims, 

How anyone with a braincell can vote for these cunts is beyond me. Aint no Tory but by fuck I will never vote for Labour when you have the Ira lovebhoys in charge 

Kick them Out. 

Thanks for that info mate, I hoped it was true but I was not sure and decided to ask.

It would only take about 5 or so other chairmen to follow that lead and the SFA would have to answer them, but it is probably too much to expect that to happen.

The only hope is that the one who sent it knows who would back up their letter, and maybe get them to also send one.  

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6 hours ago, eejay the dj said:

Recuse . You been watching Billions :-)) That is a word I learned watching that .

The corruption and sweep sweep still on going it seems . What a cancerous Country we have become

Not me eejay, I was replying to Doonald. He had used the word 'recuse' when he said Lawwel should recuse himself from any UEFA committee. I just thought he should recuse himself from the SPFL/SFA first. 

It does appear that way, when you say that the "sweep sweep is still on going". It makes me wonder who's brand of carpet sweeper they are using.

6 hours ago, Bears r us said:

I had to use  google for 'recuse' :happy: but in this country people who should stand down are there because they 'knew' they needed to be there and so no chance of them standing down.

What should happen off course is the decision should be taken away form him and he should be made to stand down, but no one will challenge him because he already has his friends in place to protect him.  :headwall: 

I agree BRU..

Maybe UEFA will take this stance and order Lawwell to step down , if the police decide do a criminal investigation into whether the 6 convicted were part of a organised ring ran  through celtic and their boys club. 

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