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58 minutes ago, slimjim1690 said:

I honestly don’t think that reporters are covering this up, I’m sure at least one of them would be desperate to report on this scandal, it’s being blocked by either the owners or editors of the SMSM who will be getting pressure from further up the food chain, this has all the hallmarks of perpetrators in high positions being involved in the practice preventing exposure in order to save their hides.

I would not disagree with one word of that mate. :thumbup: 

The only way we will get a journalist to run with it is if they come from outside Scotland, probably the UK, and I am not very hopeful of that ever happening unfortunately.

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The petition pinned at the top of this thread is now 28,600 approx and 35,000 seems to be the first target, if anyone has not signed it please take five minutes and do it. :thumbup:

https://www.change.org/p/british-goverment-petition-to-get-celtics-cover-up-investigated-bb3f86f7-1cad-4db7-89fa-8396a3bad6e0

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8 minutes ago, Bears r us said:

I would not disagree with one word of that mate. :thumbup: 

The only way we will get a journalist to run with it is if they come from outside Scotland, probably the UK, and I am not very hopeful of that ever happening unfortunately.

Like Alex Thomson, the Englishman all over us like a rash 2012 onwards the man is  Channel 4's  top correspondent, don't hold your breath though.

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7 hours ago, slimjim1690 said:

There's a reporter from the Miami Herald, Julie K Brown who has been doing a major exposure of Epstein and his ring, and has been instrumental in moving the police and courts into action.

Mike Cernovich was the original guy that brought this case to court, after a it became apparent that this was being priced out his range, that was when the Miami Herald and others seen the journalistic value in pursuing this. Like you I can see this being one hell of a revelation. Already had Bill Clinton out spinning lies as to how he only went a couple of times with Epstein, by the way this is really across all political, powerful and influential spectrum's, its big and as you say this will put a lot of people in jail.  This was only to highlight the origin of this case and not to distract from your point. :tu:

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3 minutes ago, pcbear said:

Like Alex Thomson, the Englishman all over us like a rash 2012 onwards the man is  Channel 4's  top correspondent, don't hold your breath though.

Yes someone like him but who is not a tarrier backer like he was mate. I keep thinking there must be some journalist who would want to get this terrible story out in the open and make a name for themselves but as 'slimjim' says it needs the bosses to agree as well. 

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I wonder if John @ the West Enclosure could be right about 'abusers fc' going to try and get any cases heard in private ? It seems outrageous to me but nothing would surprise me with them.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Lets go 55 said:

Men and women who have serious addiction problems in and out of jail and 99% of them will be the victims of either physical or sexual abuse through out their lives .

99pc might be a tad high for male prisoner but would agree about woman prisoners.Cornton Vale is of women who are in there for commiting crimes involving drug related issues ie theft to fund a habit or selling to fund a habit. A habit caused from being abused as a minor. 

Horrible species we are sometimes 

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3 hours ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

From today's Times:

 

celtic FC and its scandal-hitfeeder club shared an identical child protection policy, undermining the Scottish Premiership outfit’s refusal to accept responsibility for systematic sexual abuse.

Four men who held senior roles with celtic Boys Club (CBC) have been convicted of molesting dozens of children over three decades. While expressing “regret and sorrow” for the victims, celtic FC insists that it is not legally responsible for the abuse, describing the boys’ club as an entirely separate organisation.

However, it has emerged that both organisations shared a child protection policy, entitled Aware and Confident, which was introduced in 1997, months after abuse allegations first appeared in the press.

The Times has also seen an archived copy of the CBC website on which it describes itself as “the only official celtic Boys Club” and features an image of young players and officials at celtic Park.

“The privileged place we hold in the worldwide celtic family will never be taken for granted,” it says.

The boys’ club site also confirmed that its registered address was “Barrowfield Park, Glasgow”, a celtic FC training ground.

The child protection document stresses that CBC had an independent constitution, officers and rules, but adds: “The boys’ club has a long and proud association with Celtic FC which has proved of mutual benefit. CBC has agreed to implement this code of practice.

“This means that staff and volunteers working with the boys’ club will be subject to the same code of ethics, vetting procedures, good practice and procedural requirements as applies to staff and volunteers of celtic FC.” Its stated goal was to eradicate the risk of abuse to boys in teams which are “legitimately using the name celtic”.

celtic FC began an internal investigation in 1986 after media reports raised serious concerns about child welfare. Frank Cairney, the CBC general manager, was allowed to continue in his role after the club found “nothing to substantiate” the claims. He finally left his role in 1991 amid allegations that he abused a boy on an American summer tour.

However, in 2008 the CBC website paid tribute to Cairney, saying: “The section on the history of the club would not have been possible without the assistance of Mr Frank Cairney. We are grateful to him for that assistance.”

His victims had to wait until last December before Cairney, 83, was convicted of nine charges of sexually abusing young footballers. Cairney, who is serving a four-year jail sentence, abused boys in a dressing room at celtic Park.

A report on the CBC website, which was deleted after the club was renamed St Patrick’s Sports Academy last year, noted: “The future success of the boys’ club was probably secured when Frank Cairney was appointed general manager in 1970.

“His brief was to develop and recruit players for celtic FC.”

In May The Times published articles from the celtic View, the club’s official magazine, which spoke of an “official connection” between celtic FC and CBC.

Patrick McGuire, a partner at Thompsons Solicitors who is pursuing claims against celtic FC on behalf of dozens of abuse survivors, said: “This is yet more evidence, if any more evidence is required, of the absolute legal interconnection and interdependence between celtic Boys Club and the football club.”

celtic FC, which denies CBC was its feeder club, failed to respond to a request for comment.

Last month Peter Lawwell, the chief executive of celtic FC, claimed that the club had been conducting its own internal investigation. He added: “It would be quite inappropriate for us to be discussing highly sensitive and confidential legal matters in the media, and we will not do so, even if that means we come under criticism for following the due legal process.”

There are six paedophiles not four 

Torbett

Cairney 

King

Strachan 

Cullen 

McCafferty 

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31 minutes ago, mrmojorisin said:

There are six paedophiles not four 

Torbett

Cairney 

Kelly 

Strachan 

Cullen 

McCafferty 

Think you mean King instead of Kelly mate....for now !!! 

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Why would you name a child protection policy  ”Aware and Confident”?

 I suspect they’re suggesting that they need to be confident that the victims are telling the truth and ensuring that any doubt is put to the forefront. 

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16 minutes ago, Bears r us said:

Just seen that on twitter SEMA thanks for posting it 👍

This is the most encouraging development for the victims and families for a while IMO. 

👍

Dont think the Justice minister will be able to hide from social media under his rock much longer mate.

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