WCPRANGERS1 2,997 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 36 minutes ago, Robmc1 said: It’s inhumane and beyond reasonable comprehension how on analysing this fairly summarised portrayal it the facts ‘anyone’ can form anything but disgust empathy for the victims involved. Enter the (recently attained) alternate reality of the celtic boardroom and the countless fans I have saw denying responsibility and literally throwing their own kind to the wolves. How many times have we heard ‘keeping the good (ha) name of celtic’ intact’, the way this is going now it looks like this is nothing more than all about the money. In a culture where they believe 10 mins in a confessional box absolves all of any sin is it any wonder they are even contemplating this seedy route... A club like no other...indeed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Robmc1 said: It’s inhumane and beyond reasonable comprehension how on analysing this fairly summarised portrayal it the facts ‘anyone’ can form anything but disgust empathy for the victims involved. Enter the (recently attained) alternate reality of the celtic boardroom and the countless fans I have saw denying responsibility and literally throwing their own kind to the wolves. How many times have we heard ‘keeping the good (ha) name of celtic’ intact’, the way this is going now it looks like this is nothing more than all about the money. In a culture where they believe 10 mins in a confessional box absolves all of any sin is it any wonder they are even contemplating this seedy route... Its all about money and greed. Always has been. These days it's about lieswell saving his bonus and shareholders dividends. What's probably even worse was the old board allowing Torbett back. Nothing will make me believe otherwise that the trophy centre partnership was a money laundering excersise. We here the TC received 1m for 4 years supply of trophies etc. Now that is excessive. But take yourself back to the football World of the 70s and 80s. 1m was a massive amount of money.when you consider that folk were paying 2 or 3 quid to get into the game 30k official attendances that's between 1m and 1.5m a year in gate money which was the main source of income. The Whytes and Kelly's were raping the club while allowing Torbett to rape the kids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doonald 229 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 It is absolutely shocking to note that not even a small amount of the Scum supporters have come out and publicly criticised their club's behaviour.. Do 100% of them have no decency? Maybe they are brainwashed, or perhaps they are fearrt. No not one, no not one.. indeed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern 11,329 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, doonald said: It is absolutely shocking to note that not even a small amount of the Scum supporters have come out and publicly criticised their club's behaviour.. Do 100% of them have no decency? Maybe they are brainwashed, or perhaps they are fearrt. No not one, no not one.. indeed Church would ban them to purgatory forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersMedia 35,961 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 On 29/07/2019 at 14:19, magic8ball said: Its all about money and greed. Always has been. These days it's about lieswell saving his bonus and shareholders dividends. What's probably even worse was the old board allowing Torbett back. Nothing will make me believe otherwise that the trophy centre partnership was a money laundering excersise. We here the TC received 1m for 4 years supply of trophies etc. Now that is excessive. But take yourself back to the football World of the 70s and 80s. 1m was a massive amount of money.when you consider that folk were paying 2 or 3 quid to get into the game 30k official attendances that's between 1m and 1.5m a year in gate money which was the main source of income. The Whytes and Kelly's were raping the club while allowing Torbett to rape the kids. I used to run a football league. At its peak we had 36x 11 a side teams and 600+ registered players. We used to buy 350 good quality, large, bespoke 70x70mm medals, per season, and 8x large metal trophies. In 201x's prices, we spent about £1200-1500 per season - I'd say we had decent quality stuff by amatuer football standards. Using the bank of Englands inflation calculator, say £1200 in 2015 was worth £440 in 1985. Even if Celtic required 10x the trophies and medals we did, how the hell were they spending £1m on trophies over 4 years! Those sort of numbers would have funded the football league I ran for centuries - even accounting for inflation! Again using the BoE's inflation calculator, £1m in the mid-80's is £3m in todays money. Celtic are spending £1m on trophies at a time when the very best players in the world were selling for £1-2m! Yeah, its fishy alright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Blue Loyal 11,132 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Badger said: I used to run a football league. At its peak we had 36x 11 a side teams and 600+ registered players. We used to buy 350 good quality, large, bespoke 70x70mm medals, per season, and 8x large metal trophies. In 201x's prices, we spent not much more than a grand per season - I'd say we had pretty decent quality stuff by amatuer football standards. Using the bank of Englands inflation calculator, say £1200 in 2015 was worth £440 in 1985. Even if celtic required 10x the trophies and medals we did, how the hell were they spending £1m on trophies! 🤐 Keep it zipped money would be my guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 43 minutes ago, Badger said: I used to run a football league. At its peak we had 36x 11 a side teams and 600+ registered players. We used to buy 350 good quality, large, bespoke 70x70mm medals, per season, and 8x large metal trophies. In 201x's prices, we spent about £1200-1500 per season - I'd say we had decent quality stuff by amatuer football standards. Using the bank of Englands inflation calculator, say £1200 in 2015 was worth £440 in 1985. Even if celtic required 10x the trophies and medals we did, how the hell were they spending £1m on trophies over 4 years! Those sort of numbers would have funded the football league I ran for centuries - even accounting for inflation! Again using the BoE's inflation calculator, £1m in the mid-80's is £3m in todays money. celtic are spending £1m on trophies at a time when the very best players in the world were selling for £1-2m! Yeah, its fishy alright. They also had tie pins and mugs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
72barca 1,788 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 39 minutes ago, magic8ball said: They also had tie pins and mugs. ... and a paedo ring to support! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 5 hours ago, doonald said: It is absolutely shocking to note that not even a small amount of the Scum supporters have come out and publicly criticised their club's behaviour.. Do 100% of them have no decency? Maybe they are brainwashed, or perhaps they are fearrt. No not one, no not one.. indeed Taigs and decency?! From cradle to grave, the Devil's spawn! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 On 29/07/2019 at 14:19, magic8ball said: Its all about money and greed. Always has been. These days it's about lieswell saving his bonus and shareholders dividends. What's probably even worse was the old board allowing Torbett back. Nothing will make me believe otherwise that the trophy centre partnership was a money laundering excersise. We here the TC received 1m for 4 years supply of trophies etc. Now that is excessive. But take yourself back to the football World of the 70s and 80s. 1m was a massive amount of money.when you consider that folk were paying 2 or 3 quid to get into the game 30k official attendances that's between 1m and 1.5m a year in gate money which was the main source of income. The Whytes and Kelly's were raping the club while allowing Torbett to rape the kids. Very good point. If an investigation can confirm that victims were being paid off from the Trophy Centre account, would this be enough to establish an organised paedo ring? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkster 4,870 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 8 hours ago, Sweetheart said: Very good point. If an investigation can confirm that victims were being paid off from the Trophy Centre account, would this be enough to establish an organised paedo ring? needs looking into, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting on it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malkster 4,870 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 8 hours ago, Blue Avenger said: Taigs and decency?! From cradle to grave, the Devil's spawn! The epitome of an oxymoron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 8 hours ago, Sweetheart said: Very good point. If an investigation can confirm that victims were being paid off from the Trophy Centre account, would this be enough to establish an organised paedo ring? I don't think victims were being paid off. I think that the money going to the Trophy Centre was going straight back to Kelly and Co as directors of the company they were getting paid and receiving dividends of clean cash syphoned from the club. As well as the cash they were creaming from the doctored gate receipts the directors at club were making a fortune, its highly likely that over half of the money going into the club was going to the directors through these methods and that's why Kelly looked very nervous when interviewed a couple of months back Torbett was allowed back in because he was helping the Kelly's get money out of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboscot 1,176 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 8 hours ago, Sweetheart said: Very good point. If an investigation can confirm that victims were being paid off from the Trophy Centre account, would this be enough to establish an organised paedo ring? Nothing to do with victims being paid off. The theory is that the pay-at-the-gate cash was being funnelled through The Trophy Centre to clean it up as the tarriers were posting attendances far lower than what was actually at the piggery and skimming the money. *edit* @magic8ball posted just before me but exactly the same theory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, roboscot said: Nothing to do with victims being paid off. The theory is that the pay-at-the-gate cash was being funnelled through The Trophy Centre to clean it up as the tarriers were posting attendances far lower than what was actually at the piggery and skimming the money. That money would not need to be accounted for. They would only need to account for what they actually declared. I believe the money to the trophy centre was in addition to what was getting creamed at the gate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 20,527 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 The Trophy Centre sounds like the celtic Laundry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin 13,608 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 A vile club like no other whos dirty secrets are coming to the light Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee9 3,972 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Said it for months. Zero is happening or will happen in regards to this. People waiting on they cunts being brought to task will have a long fucking wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueshoff 11,750 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, dee9 said: Said it for months. Zero is happening or will happen in regards to this. People waiting on they cunts being brought to task will have all long fucking wait. Can't help but agree unfortunately. Same as the dodgy land deals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee9 3,972 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Blueshoff said: Can't help but agree unfortunately. Same as the dodgy land deals. Yep......fucking disgrace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Deacon 55,131 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenoz 30,681 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 23 hours ago, dee9 said: Said it for months. Zero is happening or will happen in regards to this. People waiting on they cunts being brought to task will have a long fucking wait. I would have agreed with this a few months ago but I just read an ESPN article today where an Olympian track coach has been nabbed after 44 years of molestation. The world is now taking notice. Sooner or later the pressure will come towards Scotland's as a country. It may still be years away but their day is coming...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,595 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Dan Deacon said: Headshot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic8ball 27,901 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, BridgeIsBlue said: Headshot. Nowt we never already knew. Lieswells separate entity pish was just another disgusting stalling tactic, he knows they are screwed. Sick sick man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetheart 8,458 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 On 31/07/2019 at 08:24, magic8ball said: I don't think victims were being paid off. I think that the money going to the Trophy Centre was going straight back to Kelly and Co as directors of the company they were getting paid and receiving dividends of clean cash syphoned from the club. As well as the cash they were creaming from the doctored gate receipts the directors at club were making a fortune, its highly likely that over half of the money going into the club was going to the directors through these methods and that's why Kelly looked very nervous when interviewed a couple of months back Torbett was allowed back in because he was helping the Kelly's get money out of the club. I see your point. A poster on FF posted that celtic had paid some of the victims hush money. I think this could be true as there are allegedly 14 names on the paedo list. Could a reason for Kelly siphoning the money from his club through the trophy centre be that he wanted to silence people to keep his clubs name from being tarnished? If not then where did the money come from to keep this secret silent? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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