Police Scotland confirm received report into historic child abuse within football

[BlueKnight87 17,286]

22 minutes ago, scottyc06 said:

What's more desperate or barrel scraping is that one of the biggest sports journalists in the country would rather choose to talk about points scoring than one of, if not the biggest scandals to hit Scottish football purely because the club in question is celtic ? 

Nail on the head mate. 

He's clearly one of their media pals. They won't have many left when the law suits and sponsors start pulling out. 

[markem 7,270]

Been thinking about this more and tbh I think their seperate entity strategy is doomed. Mostly because it’s a lie however let’s assume their fable to be true. 

Whats not being denied is Torbett approached them for approval to use the club name, colours etc which they granted. 

I’d assume that they have a responsibility to have some controls/back ground check etc over any person they’ve granted that permission. Let’s assume they can get past that, they simply have to have an on-going responsibility to act appropriately based on any information about said person that comes to light. Quite clearly they neglected any responsibility when they (which again cannot be denied) established he was using their brand/facilities etc to groom and abuse kids.  Steins involvement at removing him seals Celtics fate tbh as that proves the point that it was their responsility and within their gift to act.  

I’m convinced that’s a logical conclusion. There has to be a degree of corporate accountability - there is a stack of evidence and witnesses to confirm they knew.   

Is their defence really going to be......yes we let him use the club as a vehicle to abuse, yes we knew he was doing this for decades but it was a separate entity?

Imagine a guy saying to Mcdonlads, is it ok if I set up a crèche near your reastraunts and use the McDonald’s logo/brand etc, he then uses that facility to abuse, McDonald’s are aware, for decades in fact but let him continue to use the brand, actaully support him in doing so....to then stand in Court and say ah but it was a separate entity all that time.  

Flimsy as fuck. 

[Ryju84 3,170]

18 minutes ago, SeparateEntityMyArse said:

That must happen next month x 50k bears?

Wonder what banners will be allowed into Ibrox and broadcast on Sky

[toad 320]

19 hours ago, Hadron Collider said:

Signed! 

https://www.change.org/p/british-goverment-petition-to-get-celtics-cover-up-investigated-bb3f86f7-1cad-4db7-89fa-8396a3bad6e0/d?source_location=combo_psf

Signed.

[SpidermansGaffer 2,552]

13 minutes ago, markem said:

Been thinking about this more and tbh I think their seperate entity strategy is doomed. Mostly because it’s a lie however let’s assume their fable to be true. 

Whats not being denied is Torbett approached them for approval to use the club name, colours etc which they granted. 

I’d assume that they have a responsibility to have some controls/back ground check etc over any person they’ve granted that permission. Let’s assume they can get past that, the simply have to have aan on going responsibility to act appropriately based on any information about said person that comes to light. Quite clearly they neglected any responsibility when they (which again cannot be denied) established he was using their brand/facilities etc to groom and abuse kids.  Steins involvement at removing him seals Celtics fate tbh as that proves the point that it was their responsility and within their gift to act.  

I’m convinced that’s a logical conclusion. There has to be a degree of corporate accountability - there is a stack of evidence and witnesses to confirm they knew.   

Is their defence really going to be......yes we let him use the club as a vehicle to abuse, yes we knew he was doing this for decades but it was a separate entity?

Imagine a guy saying to Mcdonlads, is it ok if I set up a crèche near your reastraunts and use the McDonald’s logo/brand etc, he then uses that facility to abuse, McDonald’s are aware, for decades in fact but let him continue to use the brand, actaully support him in doing so....to then stand in Court and say ah but it was a separate entity all that time.  

Flimsy as fuck. 

Good post mate.

[LOL153 No Surrender!!! 1,810]

9 hours ago, Laudrup1984 said:

 

Should be on the fucking front page the cunts.

[Bears r us 30,794]

 

[Bears r us 30,794]

 

[scottyc06 6,915]

18 minutes ago, markem said:

Been thinking about this more and tbh I think their seperate entity strategy is doomed. Mostly because it’s a lie however let’s assume their fable to be true. 

Whats not being denied is Torbett approached them for approval to use the club name, colours etc which they granted. 

I’d assume that they have a responsibility to have some controls/back ground check etc over any person they’ve granted that permission. Let’s assume they can get past that, the simply have to have aan on going responsibility to act appropriately based on any information about said person that comes to light. Quite clearly they neglected any responsibility when they (which again cannot be denied) established he was using their brand/facilities etc to groom and abuse kids.  Steins involvement at removing him seals Celtics fate tbh as that proves the point that it was their responsility and within their gift to act.  

I’m convinced that’s a logical conclusion. There has to be a degree of corporate accountability - there is a stack of evidence and witnesses to confirm they knew.   

Is their defence really going to be......yes we let him use the club as a vehicle to abuse, yes we knew he was doing this for decades but it was a separate entity?

Imagine a guy saying to Mcdonlads, is it ok if I set up a crèche near your reastraunts and use the McDonald’s logo/brand etc, he then uses that facility to abuse, McDonald’s are aware, for decades in fact but let him continue to use the brand, actaully support him in doing so....to then stand in Court and say ah but it was a separate entity all that time.  

Flimsy as fuck. 

Or the fact that Jock Stein was the one to get rid of him from the boys club the first time around... how did he do that if they were a separate entity?

[Ibroxholm 2,276]

11 hours ago, cushynumber said:

spiers 2nd tweet on the subject. And its about point scoring...

 

 

It’s beneath contempt that this excuse of a person tries to take the high ground on this subject.

Mr Spiers,  just maybe us ‘cavemen’ over at Ibrox are doing a bit of point scoring highlighting this subject.  Thing is, we’ve been doing it for decades but because don’t have a public voice in the media, we are dismissed as only worth of contempt by those that do.  After all, we are only bigots, coarse and vulgar Rangers fans not pseudo intellectuals like you, Mr Spiers and your circle of friends.

You, Mr Spiers and most of your fellow journalists (and I use the term lightly) do have a public voice but you have chosen to not only ignore the ‘open secret’ but consistently try to shut down any mention of it.  You should be ashamed of yourself.  At the very minimum you are a coward, however in your own way you are as a complicit as any of those who covered up child abuse over several decades at that club across the city.  It is laughable that you should still try to attempt to take the moral high ground on this issue.  You would be better employed searching your own conscience on how your actions helped facilitate the cover up.

[Davie Mr Magic Cooper 515]

1 hour ago, magic8ball said:

reason being. tax avoidance is their specialist subject .they aint as informed in child abuse .

It certainly is as is everything Rangers related. 

They should be well informed about child abuse though. The catholic cult is riddled with it and rarely do they admit to anything regarding it. Absolutely vile from top to bottom. The amount of kids lives ruined by this cult is heart-breaking. Shame on the lot of them.

[Davie Mr Magic Cooper 515]

1 hour ago, Sparkle said:

“You let your club lie”

5 words that say it all

100% correct and the next five words should say

"now let your club die"

They should (and this is just the start of the sordid mess), but they'll probably still turn up in their numbers on Thursday for their usual iraoke and spew other vile too. Anyone who could cover up the abuse of innocent kids and those who choose to deflect from the reality of the situation are sub-human. There will be some of them who will be disgusted with this of course, but they'll be in the tiny minority of 'fans'. Shame FC (and never let them forget it).

 

[markem 7,270]

9 minutes ago, scottyc06 said:

Or the fact that Jock Stein was the one to get rid of him from the boys club the first time around... how did he do that if they were a separate entity?

Exactly. Right there and then they have demonstrated that they were aware of what was going on, their responsibility and scope to act. 

People more qualified than me will confirm this but I doubt a court will look at it black and white. What I mean by that is it’s not as simple as - did you employ/pay him? They will look at the relationship as a whole and without even taking any significant time to research it it’s easy to established they were intertwined. 

To my understanding the next guy in the dock was one of their employees so why they are bothering with this shit is beyond me. 

I’m amazed they don’t come out and say the club was a victim of a different regime and  attempt to claim back the high ground by doing the right thing now.  That would be the best thing they could do and would appeal to the victim mentality they enjoy so much.  I wonder if they are so used to getting their own way they just won’t accept being held to account. Either that they haven’t played their hand yet.  They (Lawell etc) are many things but stupid isn’t typically evident. 

[BloodRunsBlue 1,303]

Now over 10,000 signatures. Keep it goin.

https://www.change.org/p/british-goverment-petition-to-get-celtics-cover-up-investigated-bb3f86f7-1cad-4db7-89fa-8396a3bad6e0

[Paisley Blue Loyal 11,178]

21 minutes ago, Ibroxholm said:

It’s beneath contempt that this excuse of a person tries to take the high ground on this subject.

Mr Spiers,  just maybe us ‘cavemen’ over at Ibrox are doing a bit of point scoring highlighting this subject.  Thing is, we’ve been doing it for decades but because don’t have a public voice in the media, we are dismissed as only worth of contempt by those that do.  After all, we are only bigots, coarse and vulgar Rangers fans not pseudo intellectuals like you, Mr Spiers and your circle of friends.

You, Mr Spiers and most of your fellow journalists (and I use the term lightly) do have a public voice but you have chosen to not only ignore the ‘open secret’ but consistently try to shut down any mention of it.  You should be ashamed of yourself.  At the very minimum you are a coward, however in your own way you are as a complicit as any of those who covered up child abuse over several decades at that club across the city.  It is laughable that you should still try to attempt to take the moral high ground on this issue.  You would be better employed searching your own conscience on how your actions helped facilitate the cover up.

Great post mate ?

[markem 7,270]

2 minutes ago, Davie Mr Magic Cooper said:

100% correct and the next five words should say

"now let your club die"

They should (and this is just the start of the sordid mess), but they'll probably still turn up in their numbers on Thursday for their usual iraoke and spew other vile too. Anyone who could cover up the abuse of innocent kids and those who choose to deflect from the reality of the situation are sub-human. There will be some of them who will be disgusted with this of course, but they'll be in the tiny minority of 'fans'. Shame FC (and never let them forget it).

 

Can see celtic Fans on twitter who are saying they played for CBC back then and that the BC and CFC were the same thing being told by the majority they are wrong and to basically shut up.  Same for any that show any hint of a moral compass and ask the questions that need asked...shut up, toe the party line. 

Seen one female yahoo state last night that we (that’s us) have been working on this for years.  Hmmm.  

[ritchieshearercaldow 22,137]

11 hours ago, cushynumber said:

spiers 2nd tweet on the subject. And its about point scoring...

 

 

The cunt doesn’t get it does he.

It’s nothing to do with point scoring, it’s about a club that portrays itself as some sort of moral crusader but has no morals when it comes to covering up and ignoring child abuse, for it to happen once could be understood but to allow it twice is criminal.

[magic8ball 27,901]

39 minutes ago, Davie Mr Magic Cooper said:

It certainly is as is everything Rangers related. 

They should be well informed about child abuse though. The catholic cult is riddled with it and rarely do they admit to anything regarding it. Absolutely vile from top to bottom. The amount of kids lives ruined by this cult is heart-breaking. Shame on the lot of them.

say anything against the cult and your a bigot 

[Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310]

As the song says.....”your silence is deafening” 

or even.....”you say it best, when you say nothing at all” 

Ya beastly bastards, hide all you want, the truth will be heard.

[magic8ball 27,901]

2 hours ago, pollok-bear said:

How many times have they bastards said yer clubs deed and then want us to still pay debts during our troubled financial times which we rightly have and rightly should ....... well you manky bastards my  question now goes to youse in regard to the disgusting scandal that has went on at your club for years that you are now saying has nothing to do with celtic football club. 

 

they can try and wriggle out of torbett but they can't wriggle out of the kitman who has just been released from prison in northern Ireland and is facing fresh allegations 

[Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686]

22 minutes ago, ritchieshearercaldow said:

The cunt doesn’t get it does he.

It’s nothing to do with point scoring, it’s about a club that portrays itself as some sort of moral crusader but has no morals when it comes to covering up and ignoring child abuse, for it to happen once could be understood but to allow it twice is criminal.

It's more than twice though hell torbett alone was twice then you have crainey and mccafferty and the cunt taking photos in the toilet.

They ran a full on peadophile ring make no mistake about it and must be punished for that crime against children. 

 

[magic8ball 27,901]

58 minutes ago, Ibroxholm said:

It’s beneath contempt that this excuse of a person tries to take the high ground on this subject.

Mr Spiers,  just maybe us ‘cavemen’ over at Ibrox are doing a bit of point scoring highlighting this subject.  Thing is, we’ve been doing it for decades but because don’t have a public voice in the media, we are dismissed as only worth of contempt by those that do.  After all, we are only bigots, coarse and vulgar Rangers fans not pseudo intellectuals like you, Mr Spiers and your circle of friends.

You, Mr Spiers and most of your fellow journalists (and I use the term lightly) do have a public voice but you have chosen to not only ignore the ‘open secret’ but consistently try to shut down any mention of it.  You should be ashamed of yourself.  At the very minimum you are a coward, however in your own way you are as a complicit as any of those who covered up child abuse over several decades at that club across the city.  It is laughable that you should still try to attempt to take the moral high ground on this issue.  You would be better employed searching your own conscience on how your actions helped facilitate the cover up.

it's embarrassing that there are folk out their claiming the moral high ground for people daring to call them out on such disgusting crimes 

[magic8ball 27,901]

maybe torbett and co should provide their tax returns documents .if any discrepancies then I'm sure the bheastly hordes will get involved in exposing them 

[magic8ball 27,901]

13 hours ago, bigsasasfloopyhair said:

Over 7000 signed in 8 hours, keep it going!! 

if just signed .the number is up to 10k .

sadly though I doubt it will reach the number required .I'm sure 100k is needed .

like most things like this these there is a flurry of signatures then it slows down 

maybe the brave journalist Alex Thompson can put his weight behind it .Surely if he ignores this or any of the journalists who jumped on our band wagon ignore it .that just outs them as taig loving Rangers hating bigots 

[BlueAvenger 10,237]

34 minutes ago, ritchieshearercaldow said:

The cunt doesn’t get it does he.

It’s nothing to do with point scoring, it’s about a club that portrays itself as some sort of moral crusader but has no morals when it comes to covering up and ignoring child abuse, for it to happen once could be understood but to allow it twice is criminal.

He gets it fine well mate. Just scum covering for scum.