NeoGeo7 10,431 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 So this Q&A piece that came out is a real eye opener as far as the manager's mentality is concerned. Last season we know that he wouldn't reveal the targets for that season in any great detail but later in the season said the goal was to not only win the league but to "smash it" and that had been shared with the squad at the start of the season. Putting these two morsels of information together paints the picture that we aimed to be second this year i.e. "Highly competitive" in the league. So lets say for arguments sake this was the goal what kind of message does that send to the players? When we take on the Mhanks home or away, "It's ok if we lose boys, we only want to finish second". Therein lies the problem, the manager's views and therefore the players' views are out of alignment with the support. Sure it was optimistic (putting it lightly) to expect to win the league this year but that should have been and should always be the goal of any Rangers manager or player regardless of unprecedented circumstances. If you don't achieve it then provided everyone was doing their absolute best, leaving nothing of themselves on the pitch at the final whistle then there is tolerance amongst the support. We don't accept it because our place is at the top but we can tolerate it provided we know that the management and players also don't accept it and will strive to improve and win it the next time. This is what is missing here. The manager simply does not get it and therefore neither do his players. So we lose to Hearts twice in a season but hey its ok because we beat Dundee and Inverness away. Rubbish. When you play teams around you if you want to be better than them you have to beat them or at the very least not be beaten, otherwise you are relying on other teams to do what you cannot and this is just not our way. My biggest fear is actually finishing second whether it be by 1 point or 10 points (which apparently makes no difference to our manager) as it will probably mean Warburton remains in charge with this apathetic stance towards the battle for power in scottish football. The sheer lack of ambition or fight in the manager is quite frankly appalling. As I alluded to earlier this may not be realistic but you have to aim high and push yourselves otherwise the type of results and performances we have put in are described as "bad days at the office" as opposed to completely unacceptable in every sense. The manager was right with one thing. The road to the top is going to be hard and it will take time but accepting second best and shrugging your shoulders and the continued "speed bumps" and individual errors is putting us on the fast track to mediocrity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Soprano 13,964 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Sad state of affairs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyd09 390 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 It's disgraceful , firstly sitting down with any of the papers that spout lies and take delight in kicking our Great Club at any opportunity they can , We now have our manager giving them more headlines imagine Jock Wallace saying we will settle for 2 ND best in public ?? Wouldn't happen , changed days Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlands plater 16,958 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 #goingforsecond wouldn't have sold as many season tickets. If that's the target next season we'll see how many they shift in the summer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanksRFC 3,867 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Going for 55 in 15 years time judging by that Q & A Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,595 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 ST renewal time rolls around and we're all taken for mugs,again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Soprano 22,428 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 So he is saying the board lied, after they sold season tickets on going for 55. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanMK 4,658 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Second was the fans expectation. First should've been the teams target. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Realistically I don't think any of us expected to win the league once they brought in Dembelle and Sinclair and a new manager in Rodgers. But I expected to be beating Aberdeen and Hearts away from home and beating them at Ibrox, I expected to be sitting well clear in second place and looking good doing it. Another thing, this pish about them having an adnormal season it's just that pish. I always thought when we had a great Rangers team compared to the rest of the league we had a good chance of going the season unbeaten in the league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,364 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, DeanMK said: Second was the fans expectation. First should've been the teams target. No it wasn't. It should never be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
one55 1,510 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 next season instead of #goingfor55 we should change it to #goingfor55butjustnotyet or something a bit smaller like #2ndIsOK bolt Warburton. 2nd is not acceptable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 I suppose we all have 2022 to look forward to whatever the fuck it is that is supposed to be happening. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Drip drip drip, brainwash mediocrity into the masses, brainwash, brainwash, brainwash......breeding losers, breeding losers, breeding losers....drip drip drip....lower expectation lower expectation lower expectation.......drip drip drip....... Treating our fans like fucking idiots and sadly some of them have fallen for it. The type of fans who will make excuse after excuse as Celtic lift their 10th, 11th, 12th title in a row. This board do not have the desire to challenge Celtic, they do not have the means to stop Celtic, they do not have the brains to challenge Celtic and the manager they have chosen whom will never ever win a major trophy in his entire managerial career will never again win another old firm match or ever learn from his many mistakes. He is incapable. He is a loser much like the fans the club have been brainwashing for the last x amount of years. In a repugnant round about way, they deserve each other. These fools making excuses for a dud manager and failing board deserve the club they have. I hope they enjoy 10 in a row because under these clowns, nothing is surer. There is no light at the end of the tunnel, nothing but blind faith. As it stands today, 3rd Feb 2017, our club is finished. Done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 I expect us to go away from home and not get hammered every time we set foot out the door, because we are not set up properly. We still wouldnt be first - and that was an unrealistic expectation - but we would be in a better position with a happier fan base because we would see progress. I dont see progress - thats the issue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
one55 1,510 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Tenerife Bear said: Drip drip drip, brainwash mediocrity into the masses, brainwash, brainwash, brainwash......breeding losers, breeding losers, breeding losers....drip drip drip....lower expectation lower expectation lower expectation.......drip drip drip....... Treating our fans like fucking idiots and sadly some of them have fallen for it. The type of fans who will make excuse after excuse as Celtic lift their 10th, 11th, 12th title in a row. This board do not have the desire to challenge Celtic, they do not have the means to stop Celtic, they do not have the brains to challenge Celtic and the manager they have chosen whom will never ever win a major trophy in his entire managerial career will never again win another old firm match or ever learn from his many mistakes. He is incapable. He is a loser much like the fans the club have been brainwashing for the last x amount of years. In a repugnant round about way, they deserve each other. These fools making excuses for a dud manager and failing board deserve the club they have. I hope they enjoy 10 in a row because under these clowns, nothing is surer. There is no light at the end of the tunnel, nothing but blind faith. As it stands today, 3rd Feb 2017, our club is finished. Done. well fuck off then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimfanciesthedude 24,494 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Basically results against the tarriers dont matter, thats what he's saying, Small time diddy team mentality Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanMK 4,658 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said: No it wasn't. It should never be. Yes it was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGOH 2,344 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 We've been spoonfed lie after lie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFTONG 60,070 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 My genuine fear is that the current manager and squad might not even finish 3rd never mind accepting 2nd as a target. We will see a decline in Season Tickets next season..It's inevitable..Difficult days ahead..Hope the manager and squad care just half as much as the support does and we can go on a winning run showing some pride in the jersey and some fight to earn that 2nd place.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laudrup1984 25,100 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 I can't remember exactly what King said but has he not been on record publicly stating 2nd and European qualification were the primary aims for this season? Apologies if I've picked that up wrong but I vaguely remember a bit of a furore with some his comments from last year. If that's what Warburton was given as his objective technically he's on course to achieve. Of course that doesn't quite tell the whole story though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
one55 1,510 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, TEFTONG said: My genuine fear is that the current manager and squad might not even finish 3rd never mind accepting 2nd as a target. We will see a decline in Season Tickets next season..It's inevitable..Difficult days ahead..Hope the manager and squad care just half as much as the support does and we can go on a winning run showing some pride in the jersey and some fight to earn that 2nd place.. 2nd is only the best we can do right now. like you say we could easily finish 3rd or if things get worse we could be 4th or 5th. that's what i worry about. if we drop season tickets then less money on the team. just what we need fs. if warburton wants any chance of staying he needs to get his shit together and make sure we finish in 2nd with a considerable gap over 3rd place. anything less than that is unacceptable and he should be replaced. 6 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said: I can't remember exactly what King said but has he not been on record publicly stating 2nd and European qualification were the primary aims for this season? Apologies if I've picked that up wrong but I vaguely remember a bit of a furore with some his comments from last year. If that's what Warburton was given as his objective technically he's on course to achieve. Of course that doesn't quite tell the whole story though. i remember him saying it (european qualification not 2nd) but fuck knows where/when. as i understand it if we were to keep finishing 4th place or worse then we'd have no chance whatsoever in catching up with that lot. if we can finish 2nd or 3rd then we can get into europe which of course attracts better players and hopefully the board will put in more money to strengthen our team for not just the premiership but european football. if we consistently get into europe season after season then we will get closer to the taigs. the thing is no matter what...2nd place is just unacceptable. unfortunately we have no choice but to accept it this season. we should ALWAYS be aiming for first place. that's what our club is all about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGOH 2,344 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Laudrup1984 said: I can't remember exactly what King said but has he not been on record publicly stating 2nd and European qualification were the primary aims for this season? Apologies if I've picked that up wrong but I vaguely remember a bit of a furore with some his comments from last year. If that's what Warburton was given as his objective technically he's on course to achieve. Of course that doesn't quite tell the whole story though. He said after the Celtic game at Hampden that Europe was the target, but the plans may have been pushed a year if we had beaten hibs and got Europa league. He's never said that 2nd was the aim as far as I'm aware, until the season had already started. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanMK 4,658 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 I think without being blindly optimistic, second was always the most probable outcome. However as things stand with our current performances even that seems optimistic. The #GoingFor55 will be used next season and every other season for however long it takes to claim 55. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal Bear 72 363 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Way too much focus on what the manager is saying in press conferences. On the park is the only place it counts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NornIronBear 450 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 11 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said: Basically results against the tarriers dont matter, thats what he's saying, Small time diddy team mentality Remember Souness saying that. Only difference being is Souness could kick a team up the backside if they didn't perform. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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