Get 3 Points or Die Trying

[NeoGeo7 10,431]

Mentality - the characteristic way of thinking of a person or group.

How can one word have such an impact on our club?

Many older bears (and I'm inclined to include myself in this demographic in my 30s) will have been treated to squads with a winning mentality. A togetherness. A brotherhood with each player willing to sacrifice themselves for the team in whatever way required.

With images of battle heroes - Gough with blood on his face following the CSKA game, Prso with the head bandage against them just to cite a couple - we have seen Rangers players, and managers, come and go but this mentality lived on through their successors and through us the fans. So where does it come from and how have we managed to lose it?

As Warburton had stated from the beginning - and what every new signing seemed to be instructed to say - our club has so much history and steeped in traditions which seemed to suggest the players knew what they were coming into. However, fast forward 20 months and we have a squad softer than a baby's first shite. There's no fight, no desire, no winning mentality, no passion and just no Rangers class.

To understand where this has stemmed from you need to look at all angles.

Existing Squad
When the new players arrived in the summer of 2015 there were only a handful of players that remained from the McCoist train wreck. Bell, Wallace, McGregor, Zaliuskas, Law, Shiels, Clark, Templeton, Miller. Now thats a sorry list to say the least but with Miller and Wallace there you'd think that there would be a fair amount of desire and fight rubbing off on the other players. In the early stages under Warburton the players harrassed opponents. Chased every loose ball and rarely let the ball go out of play in a relentless assault on the opposition. So it appeared something was working, so perhaps it wasn't the existing squad.

New Arrivals
The new signings were not marquee signings. None of the players were regarded as prized assets at their current club. Granted with no money to spend (or very little) it was unlikely we'd ever find someone of that ilk who was also prepared to play in Scotland's second tier. So the players arrived from clubs that were struggling and where they were struggling to get regular games. This is a far cry from the players we have seen come and go over the years. Though as pointed out previously the players managed to get form quickly and rack up the wins, equalling Bill Struths 8 wins following his appointment - granted under much different circumstances. The new signings then appeared to take on a god-like status, the blue cafu, the kaiser etc. etc. We are all partly to blame for it but after so many years of painful viewing it seemed we had finally turned the corner and we had players who seemed capable of playing the fast, free-flowing, attacking football we had been crying out for for years.

Things then went sour after the elephant man sussed out how to disrupt our play. Confidence dipped and every point seemed more of a struggle with each passing game. It's in moments like that you rely on your inner strength as a squad - your mentality. Where was it though? Did the manager instill this by berating the players for dropped points? Did the captain scream at his colleagues on the park during the times of need? The simple answer is no.

The Manager
Warburton arrived claiming he wanted to create an atmosphere at the club where players wanted to train and play where each player was valued. It was an ideology but in many respects I think he managed to achieve it much to our current detriment. It's much like raising a child, you set the examples through your actions and your words for the child to build a mental model of what is acceptable or not as well as what is expected of you. So Warburton had to lead, he had to show the passion, the desire, the commitment and the selflessness required to be a Ranger. However he didn't get it. His interviews became increasingly easy to predict with the age old cliches thrown in for good measure. We want to send the fans home happy. Well at Rangers that remark means 3 points or die trying. We want players who will give blood, sweat and tears to get the result.

So is Warburton the sole cause of the mentality within the team? Where its ok to drop points as you'll get an arm round the shoulder "It's ok James, your positioning cost us 2 goals today and we lost away to Hearts, but you've trained well, you were brave on the ball and as long as you learn that mistakes cost goals, but you can keep making those mistakes and keep getting selected, then you'll be fine. Here have a new contract." Ok I'm exaggerating here but you get the drift. If the manager treats every player like that in this liberal, nicey nice, everyone is equal type environment then how can the players possibly be expected to show any backbone during difficult times.

The manager refused to criicise the players publically, shielding them from all angles of attack whether it be the mhedia or the fans. Now I understand why he was doing that but there comes a point when you need to let some one or a group of people know that its not good enough and do so publically so that they grow stronger as a result. For crying out loud even Lennon did this with Hibs loss to Raith Rovers!

Football is definitely the sort of sport where leadership and authority for a manager is vital. You need to have a manager where you are afraid of crossing them but they instill enough belief, confidence and commitment in you that you want to win for them. Essentially a father figure, a stern but loving hand. Smith had this. Advocaat had verged more on the authoritative side, stripping Amoruso of the captaincy for example. McLeish had it, even managing to get the best out of Fernando Ricksen. Then we had Le Guen who has a number of similarities with Warburton. They both underestimated the league and tried to buy passers, thinking that the stonethrowers in the other team would be so mesmorised by our skill and would be consumate gentlemen that they'd stand and just watch us pass the ball into the back of the net. Each manager had one player that stood up to them and basically said what they were doing was shite. For Le Guen it was Ferguson, for Warburton it was Barton. The board sided with Ferguson (effectively) whilst this board sided with the Warburton. Think what you like about Barton but he was the one player that seemed to say the 5-1 against Celtic was not just a bad result or about learning it was utter shite. The players were shite individually and collectively. These words should have been from the manager himself rather than a player who had been at the club a couple of months who then gets cast aside like some failed initiate of a cult.

However is the manager solely to blame?

Society
Now we go further into this and look at society and in particular this generation of footballers in there early to mid twenties. Society is crumbling as we speak. Democracy is just a word now as people take to the streets to protest about anything that hasn't gone their way because they are privileged and entitled. Coupled with the narcissism that runs rife throughout this generation "OMG this ham sandwich is totes amazeballs" its a good job we aren't faced with a world war on our hands as we'd been in a sorry state.

Our society is now fed with a silver spoon rather than being made up of hard working class people and I see a lot of that in our squad. The players have been wrapped in cotton wool by the manager and allowed to believe they are doing a fantastic job when really their standards dropped considerably about 15 months ago. If someone is doing a poor job and you tell them they are doing well, tell the press they are doing a good job then why would they bother their arses to try any harder. There seems to be no self motivation. The players don't seem to want to push themselves to see how far they can go they are happy just doing the bare minimum to get through it and have a good laugh during the process. Again this is something you see a lot of nowadays and therefore its possibly too much to expect the players we have signed to be any different.

 

We want a squad of players we can be proud of that even if they lack the technical ability of players we have been treated to in the past we know that when they pull on that jersey they'll be giving everything of themselves on the pitch to get the result. As Scott Nisbet pointed out about the 4-3 loss at Dens Park in 1992 the players were bricking it going into that dressing room and that authoritative figurehead is missing here. If the players cannot motivate themselves then you need a manager that can and if they can't motivate certain players then those players need to be shown the door.

No doubt about it the next manager has a huge task but the first thing that is required is who can cut it and who can't. We saw the same sort of clear out in 2015 but it appears this is what is required once more to give the new manager the chance to actually build a better squad with a far stronger mentality.

[The Specky Forum Organiser 64,426]

tl;dr 

[Tenerife Bear 1,748]

We have signed too many wannabees. Mediocre professionals who think they are better than they are. The squads mentality was found out even last season. The bottom line is we have signed far too many players who are simply not very good at their profession. 

[Blue Bear Champ 1]

4 minutes ago, NeoGeo7 said:

Mentality - the characteristic way of thinking of a person or group.

How can one word have such an impact on our club?

Many older bears (and I'm inclined to include myself in this demographic in my 30s) will have been treated to squads with a winning mentality. A togetherness. A brotherhood with each player willing to sacrifice themselves for the team in whatever way required.

With images of battle heroes - Gough with blood on his face following the CSKA game, Prso with the head bandage against them just to cite a couple - we have seen Rangers players, and managers, come and go but this mentality lived on through their successors and through us the fans. So where does it come from and how have we managed to lose it?

As Warburton had stated from the beginning - and what every new signing seemed to be instructed to say - our club has so much history and steeped in traditions which seemed to suggest the players knew what they were coming into. However, fast forward 20 months and we have a squad softer than a baby's first shite. There's no fight, no desire, no winning mentality, no passion and just no Rangers class.

To understand where this has stemmed from you need to look at all angles.

Existing Squad
When the new players arrived in the summer of 2015 there were only a handful of players that remained from the McCoist train wreck. Bell, Wallace, McGregor, Zaliuskas, Law, Shiels, Clark, Templeton, Miller. Now thats a sorry list to say the least but with Miller and Wallace there you'd think that there would be a fair amount of desire and fight rubbing off on the other players. In the early stages under Warburton the players harrassed opponents. Chased every loose ball and rarely let the ball go out of play in a relentless assault on the opposition. So it appeared something was working, so perhaps it wasn't the existing squad.

New Arrivals
The new signings were not marquee signings. None of the players were regarded as prized assets at their current club. Granted with no money to spend (or very little) it was unlikely we'd ever find someone of that ilk who was also prepared to play in Scotland's second tier. So the players arrived from clubs that were struggling and where they were struggling to get regular games. This is a far cry from the players we have seen come and go over the years. Though as pointed out previously the players managed to get form quickly and rack up the wins, equalling Bill Struths 8 wins following his appointment - granted under much different circumstances. The new signings then appeared to take on a god-like status, the blue cafu, the kaiser etc. etc. We are all partly to blame for it but after so many years of painful viewing it seemed we had finally turned the corner and we had players who seemed capable of playing the fast, free-flowing, attacking football we had been crying out for for years.

Things then went sour after the elephant man sussed out how to disrupt our play. Confidence dipped and every point seemed more of a struggle with each passing game. It's in moments like that you rely on your inner strength as a squad - your mentality. Where was it though? Did the manager instill this by berating the players for dropped points? Did the captain scream at his colleagues on the park during the times of need? The simple answer is no.

The Manager
Warburton arrived claiming he wanted to create an atmosphere at the club where players wanted to train and play where each player was valued. It was an ideology but in many respects I think he managed to achieve it much to our current detriment. It's much like raising a child, you set the examples through your actions and your words for the child to build a mental model of what is acceptable or not as well as what is expected of you. So Warburton had to lead, he had to show the passion, the desire, the commitment and the selflessness required to be a Ranger. However he didn't get it. His interviews became increasingly easy to predict with the age old cliches thrown in for good measure. We want to send the fans home happy. Well at Rangers that remark means 3 points or die trying. We want players who will give blood, sweat and tears to get the result.

So is Warburton the sole cause of the mentality within the team? Where its ok to drop points as you'll get an arm round the shoulder "It's ok James, your positioning cost us 2 goals today and we lost away to Hearts, but you've trained well, you were brave on the ball and as long as you learn that mistakes cost goals, but you can keep making those mistakes and keep getting selected, then you'll be fine. Here have a new contract." Ok I'm exaggerating here but you get the drift. If the manager treats every player like that in this liberal, nicey nice, everyone is equal type environment then how can the players possibly be expected to show any backbone during difficult times.

The manager refused to criicise the players publically, shielding them from all angles of attack whether it be the mhedia or the fans. Now I understand why he was doing that but there comes a point when you need to let some one or a group of people know that its not good enough and do so publically so that they grow stronger as a result. For crying out loud even Lennon did this with Hibs loss to Raith Rovers!

Football is definitely the sort of sport where leadership and authority for a manager is vital. You need to have a manager where you are afraid of crossing them but they instill enough belief, confidence and commitment in you that you want to win for them. Essentially a father figure, a stern but loving hand. Smith had this. Advocaat had verged more on the authoritative side, stripping Amoruso of the captaincy for example. McLeish had it, even managing to get the best out of Fernando Ricksen. Then we had Le Guen who has a number of similarities with Warburton. They both underestimated the league and tried to buy passers, thinking that the stonethrowers in the other team would be so mesmorised by our skill and would be consumate gentlemen that they'd stand and just watch us pass the ball into the back of the net. Each manager had one player that stood up to them and basically said what they were doing was shite. For Le Guen it was Ferguson, for Warburton it was Barton. The board sided with Ferguson (effectively) whilst this board sided with the Warburton. Think what you like about Barton but he was the one player that seemed to say the 5-1 against Celtic was not just a bad result or about learning it was utter shite. The players were shite individually and collectively. These words should have been from the manager himself rather than a player who had been at the club a couple of months who then gets cast aside like some failed initiate of a cult.

However is the manager solely to blame?

Society
Now we go further into this and look at society and in particular this generation of footballers in there early to mid twenties. Society is crumbling as we speak. Democracy is just a word now as people take to the streets to protest about anything that hasn't gone their way because they are privileged and entitled. Coupled with the narcissism that runs rife throughout this generation "OMG this ham sandwich is totes amazeballs" its a good job we aren't faced with a world war on our hands as we'd been in a sorry state.

Our society is now fed with a silver spoon rather than being made up of hard working class people and I see a lot of that in our squad. The players have been wrapped in cotton wool by the manager and allowed to believe they are doing a fantastic job when really their standards dropped considerably about 15 months ago. If someone is doing a poor job and you tell them they are doing well, tell the press they are doing a good job then why would they bother their arses to try any harder. There seems to be no self motivation. The players don't seem to want to push themselves to see how far they can go they are happy just doing the bare minimum to get through it and have a good laugh during the process. Again this is something you see a lot of nowadays and therefore its possibly too much to expect the players we have signed to be any different.

 

We want a squad of players we can be proud of that even if they lack the technical ability of players we have been treated to in the past we know that when they pull on that jersey they'll be giving everything of themselves on the pitch to get the result. As Scott Nisbet pointed out about the 4-3 loss at Dens Park in 1992 the players were bricking it going into that dressing room and that authoritative figurehead is missing here. If the players cannot motivate themselves then you need a manager that can and if they can't motivate certain players then those players need to be shown the door.

No doubt about it the next manager has a huge task but the first thing that is required is who can cut it and who can't. We saw the same sort of clear out in 2015 but it appears this is what is required once more to give the new manager the chance to actually build a better squad with a far stronger mentality.

i think you have over-simplified the situation. what about the media and their part in all this? poor refereeing this season has cost us also... Mr Murty should be given a chance to unite the squad as you say above. good post though.

[Courtyard Bear 41,357]

We have a chairman and board telling anyone who wants to listen that it's ok not to win everything and coming second is alright. 

New age fucking nonsense and players have bought into it. 

[The Specky Forum Organiser 64,426]

8 minutes ago, Blue Bear Champ said:

i think you have over-simplified the situation. what about the media and their part in all this? poor refereeing this season has cost us also... Mr Murty should be given a chance to unite the squad as you say above. good post though.

Shut up ya bawbag

[NeoGeo7 10,431]

3 minutes ago, Blue Bear Champ said:

i think you have over-simplified the situation. what about the media and their part in all this? poor refereeing this season has cost us also... Mr Murty should be given a chance to unite the squad as you say above. good post though.

If we get done over by a poor decision or two in a game but the players have given their all then we are aggrieved with the officials not our squad. The trouble is I don't feel an affinity to the players as I feel no one really cares other than Miller (or at least that is what I see during games). In particular I think any new manager has to look to replace Wallace as captain, he just doesn't cut it for me in that department. Hill or Miller would have been great candidates however we need a captain who will play every game (and although both are now they probably won't next year.....if they are still here).

As for the media well they like to put the boot in and twist things a lot but again a strong unit will be able to deal with that. Warburton protected the squad to a large extent. Kiernan's blunder that cost of the points at St Johnstone when we were in total control. The managers response was "Everyone is human, we all make mistakes". You can use the media to your advantage as well, it just depends on how you play it. If you play the same cards week in week out then you have zero effect. Warburton had the same rhetoric in every press conference, every post match interview it never changed. He never once slipped out of character and slated the team which leads me to believe he did the same behind closed doors so I don't think the media really had that big a factor.

Besides, players know the press target players and they should be able to deal with it if they are mentally strong. If they aren't then why sign for Rangers when its obvious this kind of scrutiny (and attack) will happen frequently.

[kyleh1872 87]

I think it has been a mix of MW attitude and the players thinking they are better than they are. The lack of effort really get to me its seems several of the players dont care if they win or lose, i think many of them may have been recruited on the basis of "come up here, its a good stage and you can try get to a EPL or championship team" career footballers not footballers (if you see what i mean) with your point about miller and Wallace. same in any job tbh. you work in a  team of ten, half of them are fuckin useless you eventually will just get you head down and do your own but when it becomes clear nothing you do or the current management do will changes these guys attitudes 

[NeoGeo7 10,431]

3 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said:

We have a chairman and board telling anyone who wants to listen that it's ok not to win everything and coming second is alright. 

New age fucking nonsense and players have bought into it. 

Very good point and one I overlooked.

Leadership from the top plays a massive part on this. Coupled with the weak responses to the Cup Final incident, the hanging incident. The board want to build bridges with the other side that don't want to do any building. There is no meeting in the middle but the board are too stupid to realise that.

"No one likes us, we don't care".

This didn't just come about on a whim. It's been ingrained in our ways for years and with good reason. That shouldn't change and a spineless board is as bad as a spineless manager.

[jackrfc95 4,255]

That's the main issue for me, granted these players may not be the best technically but the very least they must show a hunger and desire to do well. IMO in the current squad only Miller really understands that this is unacceptable.

[minstral 5,375]

12 minutes ago, Blue Bear Champ said:

i think you have over-simplified the situation. what about the media and their part in all this? poor refereeing this season has cost us also... Mr Murty should be given a chance to unite the squad as you say above. good post though.

A team of cowards who are also poor players, plus poor tactics, have cost us, not refereeing.

[gazza27 15,281]

29 minutes ago, minstral said:

A team of cowards who are also poor players, plus poor tactics, have cost us, not refereeing.

Worth the watching this yin mate,don't bother your arse with him

[WGOH 2,344]

Cba reading that. Maybe a good post but everyone is saying the same thing as each other 

[BailliestonTB 270]

1 hour ago, jackrfc95 said:

That's the main issue for me, granted these players may not be the best technically but the very least they must show a hunger and desire to do well. IMO in the current squad only Miller really understands that this is unacceptable.

This is what really gets to me its the laziness & the lack of effort & fight they put in when there wearing the jersey.

[jackrfc95 4,255]

37 minutes ago, SirMW said:

This is what really gets to me its the laziness & the lack of effort & fight they put in when there wearing the jersey.

Agreed. The first Dundee goal the midfield were literally nowhere to be seen, that's nothing to do with being bad technically

[Railcard 2]

2 hours ago, Blue Bear Champ said:

i think you have over-simplified the situation. what about the media and their part in all this? poor refereeing this season has cost us also... Mr Murty should be given a chance to unite the squad as you say above. good post though.

Where abouts in the San Giro do you sit?

[LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510]

Too many wannabe writers on this site nowadays.

 

I'm sure it's a decent post but if I'm honest I can't be arsed reading about 10 paragraphs of something that could probably be summed up in a sentence or 2.

[LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510]

Can't believe that blue bear champ isn't banned yet either.

Can't remember seeing a more blatant taig on here.

[BailliestonTB 270]

2 hours ago, jackrfc95 said:

Agreed. The first Dundee goal the midfield were literally nowhere to be seen, that's nothing to do with being bad technically

the midfield have been posted missing for the season. Most people on here give the defence greif back to front we are awful.

[loyal 136]

Warburton Signed  rejects from the third tier of English football and  mentalities that go with it    It seems the  players that were signed by Warburton  have reached their ceiling and  simply are unable  too push on to a higher  level .

Apart from arguably Wes  none of the players  have improved from last season  but they are simply not good enough .

 

 

 

[Tom0411 1,226]

I have noticed or possibly didn't notice due to the length of the op that two words are missing. As my favourite 'Gers manager would say "Nae character" & I think that currently sums up our club from top to bottom.

[Blue Avenger 22,567]

8 hours ago, NeoGeo7 said:

Mentality - the characteristic way of thinking of a person or group.

How can one word have such an impact on our club?

Many older bears (and I'm inclined to include myself in this demographic in my 30s) will have been treated to squads with a winning mentality. A togetherness. A brotherhood with each player willing to sacrifice themselves for the team in whatever way required.

With images of battle heroes - Gough with blood on his face following the CSKA game, Prso with the head bandage against them just to cite a couple - we have seen Rangers players, and managers, come and go but this mentality lived on through their successors and through us the fans. So where does it come from and how have we managed to lose it?

As Warburton had stated from the beginning - and what every new signing seemed to be instructed to say - our club has so much history and steeped in traditions which seemed to suggest the players knew what they were coming into. However, fast forward 20 months and we have a squad softer than a baby's first shite. There's no fight, no desire, no winning mentality, no passion and just no Rangers class.

To understand where this has stemmed from you need to look at all angles.

Existing Squad
When the new players arrived in the summer of 2015 there were only a handful of players that remained from the McCoist train wreck. Bell, Wallace, McGregor, Zaliuskas, Law, Shiels, Clark, Templeton, Miller. Now thats a sorry list to say the least but with Miller and Wallace there you'd think that there would be a fair amount of desire and fight rubbing off on the other players. In the early stages under Warburton the players harrassed opponents. Chased every loose ball and rarely let the ball go out of play in a relentless assault on the opposition. So it appeared something was working, so perhaps it wasn't the existing squad.

New Arrivals
The new signings were not marquee signings. None of the players were regarded as prized assets at their current club. Granted with no money to spend (or very little) it was unlikely we'd ever find someone of that ilk who was also prepared to play in Scotland's second tier. So the players arrived from clubs that were struggling and where they were struggling to get regular games. This is a far cry from the players we have seen come and go over the years. Though as pointed out previously the players managed to get form quickly and rack up the wins, equalling Bill Struths 8 wins following his appointment - granted under much different circumstances. The new signings then appeared to take on a god-like status, the blue cafu, the kaiser etc. etc. We are all partly to blame for it but after so many years of painful viewing it seemed we had finally turned the corner and we had players who seemed capable of playing the fast, free-flowing, attacking football we had been crying out for for years.

Things then went sour after the elephant man sussed out how to disrupt our play. Confidence dipped and every point seemed more of a struggle with each passing game. It's in moments like that you rely on your inner strength as a squad - your mentality. Where was it though? Did the manager instill this by berating the players for dropped points? Did the captain scream at his colleagues on the park during the times of need? The simple answer is no.

The Manager
Warburton arrived claiming he wanted to create an atmosphere at the club where players wanted to train and play where each player was valued. It was an ideology but in many respects I think he managed to achieve it much to our current detriment. It's much like raising a child, you set the examples through your actions and your words for the child to build a mental model of what is acceptable or not as well as what is expected of you. So Warburton had to lead, he had to show the passion, the desire, the commitment and the selflessness required to be a Ranger. However he didn't get it. His interviews became increasingly easy to predict with the age old cliches thrown in for good measure. We want to send the fans home happy. Well at Rangers that remark means 3 points or die trying. We want players who will give blood, sweat and tears to get the result.

So is Warburton the sole cause of the mentality within the team? Where its ok to drop points as you'll get an arm round the shoulder "It's ok James, your positioning cost us 2 goals today and we lost away to Hearts, but you've trained well, you were brave on the ball and as long as you learn that mistakes cost goals, but you can keep making those mistakes and keep getting selected, then you'll be fine. Here have a new contract." Ok I'm exaggerating here but you get the drift. If the manager treats every player like that in this liberal, nicey nice, everyone is equal type environment then how can the players possibly be expected to show any backbone during difficult times.

The manager refused to criicise the players publically, shielding them from all angles of attack whether it be the mhedia or the fans. Now I understand why he was doing that but there comes a point when you need to let some one or a group of people know that its not good enough and do so publically so that they grow stronger as a result. For crying out loud even Lennon did this with Hibs loss to Raith Rovers!

Football is definitely the sort of sport where leadership and authority for a manager is vital. You need to have a manager where you are afraid of crossing them but they instill enough belief, confidence and commitment in you that you want to win for them. Essentially a father figure, a stern but loving hand. Smith had this. Advocaat had verged more on the authoritative side, stripping Amoruso of the captaincy for example. McLeish had it, even managing to get the best out of Fernando Ricksen. Then we had Le Guen who has a number of similarities with Warburton. They both underestimated the league and tried to buy passers, thinking that the stonethrowers in the other team would be so mesmorised by our skill and would be consumate gentlemen that they'd stand and just watch us pass the ball into the back of the net. Each manager had one player that stood up to them and basically said what they were doing was shite. For Le Guen it was Ferguson, for Warburton it was Barton. The board sided with Ferguson (effectively) whilst this board sided with the Warburton. Think what you like about Barton but he was the one player that seemed to say the 5-1 against Celtic was not just a bad result or about learning it was utter shite. The players were shite individually and collectively. These words should have been from the manager himself rather than a player who had been at the club a couple of months who then gets cast aside like some failed initiate of a cult.

However is the manager solely to blame?

Society
Now we go further into this and look at society and in particular this generation of footballers in there early to mid twenties. Society is crumbling as we speak. Democracy is just a word now as people take to the streets to protest about anything that hasn't gone their way because they are privileged and entitled. Coupled with the narcissism that runs rife throughout this generation "OMG this ham sandwich is totes amazeballs" its a good job we aren't faced with a world war on our hands as we'd been in a sorry state.

Our society is now fed with a silver spoon rather than being made up of hard working class people and I see a lot of that in our squad. The players have been wrapped in cotton wool by the manager and allowed to believe they are doing a fantastic job when really their standards dropped considerably about 15 months ago. If someone is doing a poor job and you tell them they are doing well, tell the press they are doing a good job then why would they bother their arses to try any harder. There seems to be no self motivation. The players don't seem to want to push themselves to see how far they can go they are happy just doing the bare minimum to get through it and have a good laugh during the process. Again this is something you see a lot of nowadays and therefore its possibly too much to expect the players we have signed to be any different.

 

We want a squad of players we can be proud of that even if they lack the technical ability of players we have been treated to in the past we know that when they pull on that jersey they'll be giving everything of themselves on the pitch to get the result. As Scott Nisbet pointed out about the 4-3 loss at Dens Park in 1992 the players were bricking it going into that dressing room and that authoritative figurehead is missing here. If the players cannot motivate themselves then you need a manager that can and if they can't motivate certain players then those players need to be shown the door.

No doubt about it the next manager has a huge task but the first thing that is required is who can cut it and who can't. We saw the same sort of clear out in 2015 but it appears this is what is required once more to give the new manager the chance to actually build a better squad with a far stronger mentality.

Good post well said mate!

[Bobby Hume 12,983]

6 hours ago, TheLoudenTavernier said:

Too many wannabe writers on this site nowadays.

 

I'm sure it's a decent post but if I'm honest I can't be arsed reading about 10 paragraphs of something that could probably be summed up in a sentence or 2.

It's actually one of the best articles on the situation and circumstance that have brought us to the condition we find ourselves in to date.

And is really worth the effort to read.

The OP has went to length to explain his views, and honestly deserves a wee bit more than a two liner retort from yourself mate.

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21 hours ago, Tenerife Bear said:

We have signed too many wannabees. Mediocre professionals who think they are better than they are. The squads mentality was found out even last season. The bottom line is we have signed far too many players who are simply not very good at their profession. 

It's not just some of the players who think they're better than they are. A lot of fans continually praise some of the impostors.

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21 hours ago, NeoGeo7 said:

Very good point and one I overlooked.

Leadership from the top plays a massive part on this. Coupled with the weak responses to the Cup Final incident, the hanging incident. The board want to build bridges with the other side that don't want to do any building. There is no meeting in the middle but the board are too stupid to realise that.

"No one likes us, we don't care".

This didn't just come about on a whim. It's been ingrained in our ways for years and with good reason. That shouldn't change and a spineless board is as bad as a spineless manager.

Talking about spines (or the lack of), the "spine" of our team is Fod, Kiernan, Halliday & Garner. You couldn't make it up.