KingKirk 25,603 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 big tax case is like dropping a ant in the ocean compared to this lets see how many Rangers fans get allowed to speak about a live legal case on the phone ins. Am a child safety officer self qualified Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR1979 1,964 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 30 minutes ago, heathen fish boy said: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/376216/response/924550/attach/html/2/2016 2819 response.pdf.html here's the actual polis response Neither confirm or deny which was reported differently in the online article and on the documentary. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carling1873 1,401 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 minute ago, eejay the dj said: And remember Saville also had a connection with their club For me there was certainly some sort of ring going on over there, far too many for it to be a coincidence (Saville/Catholic Church), maybe not all involved physically, however silence was bought (directors) as they needed the money and or just greedy, this is what is so disgusting self interest over children's safety. These people tend to congregate where they think they're untouchable and in the east end they certainly congregated... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Surely if that rule got brought in in fairly recent times then they're clear as I'd assume they can only apply the rule after it's been brought in, rather than retrospectively. Today they are still guilty of covering up child abuse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,123 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Howsitgoing said: Today they are still guilty of covering up child abuse. Daly confirmed it but they as a club can't be punished just like the BBC couldn't be punished, shamed but not punished. They are Scotland's shame. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Just now, Carling1873 said: For me there was certainly some sort of ring going on over there, far too many for it to be a coincidence (Saville/Catholic Church), maybe not all involved physically, however silence was bought (directors) as they needed the money and or just greedy, this is what is so disgusting self interest over children's safety. These people tend to congregate where they think they're untouchable and in the east end they certainly congregated... It will be like the Spotlight situation in the Boston Globe mate . Probably 100 times worse . It will take more than ,Mark Daily to incriminate this club on his own . All the other scumbag reporters in this Country , haven't touched , nor will probably go near it . Liewell will getting all their p45s arranged in an instant Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Just now, ritchieshearercaldow said: Daly confirmed it but they as a club can't be punished just like the BBC couldn't be punished, shamed but not punished. They are Scotland's shame. Section 5 of the Children (Scotland) Act 1995 creates a statutory duty to report any suspicions of child abuse i.e. a duty to do what is reasonable in all the circumstances to safeguard the child's health, development and welfare. Failure to report concerns, turning a blind eye or failing to protect a child may result in legal action. That claims otherwise. You have to ask on what conditions may it not result in legal action. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,123 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Howsitgoing said: Section 5 of the Children (Scotland) Act 1995 creates a statutory duty to report any suspicions of child abuse i.e. a duty to do what is reasonable in all the circumstances to safeguard the child's health, development and welfare. Failure to report concerns, turning a blind eye or failing to protect a child may result in legal action. That claims otherwise. You have to ask on what conditions may it not result in legal action. Did all this not happen before that act was introduced? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearethepeople1 3,897 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 There will be scores of young boys who would have fallen pray to torbett at Celtic, I'd imagine many of them will never have spoken of it and won't now. Hopefully a full police investigation gets opened up now and we will see just how rife it was at parkhead Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howsitgoing 4,281 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Just now, ritchieshearercaldow said: Did all this not happen before that act was introduced? Abuse maybe but reporting it to the relevant authorities has still not happened. The 1st court case against that vile cunt was after the act. Looks like he is going back to court, will they finally come clean and report fully what they know. That scum club is what has allowed it to reach the despicable situation that it's in today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carling1873 1,401 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 minute ago, eejay the dj said: It will be like the Spotlight situation in the Boston Globe mate . Probably 100 times worse . It will take more than ,Mark Daily to incriminate this club on his own . All the other scumbag reporters in this Country , haven't touched , nor will probably go near it . Liewell will getting all their p45s arranged in an instant You could be right, however I'm pinning my hopes on the rats leaving the sinking ship (BBC/Political Influence). People will now be distancing themselves from them for now as their influence over these originations and people, they will not what tarred with any cover-ups. SFA are now in a rock and a hard place, stick with the current influence within their ranks or cleanse them from their positions... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Any idea what Liewell was referring to the other day .Heard Jimbeamjunior mentioning something, but he never answered my question go him He said ,Liewell may have upset them Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted April 10, 2017 Author Share Posted April 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: Any idea what Liewell was referring to the other day .Heard Jimbeamjunior mentioning something, but he never answered my question go him He said ,Liewell may have upset them He (Lawwell) said the authorities in Scotland are refusing to help Celtic incase they get accused of bias Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T.G 10,773 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, K.A.I said: He said the authorities in Scotland are refusing to help Celtic incase they get accused of bias How much help does he want man He's got a renovated Parkhead, an ex politician with the proper hindsight on EBTs, a corrupt SFA intent on legalising violence against Rangers and a political party hellbent on dehumanising anything unionist or loyalist in Scotland. Add in a guaranteed 6/7/8 year straight shot to the champions league worth hundreds of millions of pounds....I'm sure he is worried about bias now that we're halfway to knocking them off their perch and the authorities will hopefully be knocking on their door any day now. Fenian bastard Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 I still believe that the beggars knew this programme was going out and possibly even shaped the reporting of it . It may well even have been their way of getting their excuses in early ,if you like Maybe they know the investigation is at high level and they knew they would have to react The final bit about claiming to be separate from the boys club is surely telling Maybe this is how they would get out of any charges brought about, against them ,from the kangaroo court that would be set up to instigate any punishment .If it ever came to that . On the surface .It looks like Daily has targeted Beggars but I'm not so sure ,there is another agenda out there Just don't trust BBC or Daily We know they have previous There was a lot of use of actors in the programme tonight which made me very uneasy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, K.A.I said: He (Lawwell) said the authorities in Scotland are refusing to help Celtic incase they get accused of bias That could have been Liewell bullshit though mate . We know he likes a porky or two Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T.G 10,773 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Just now, eejay the dj said: I still believe that the beggars knew this programme was going out and possibly even shaped the reporting of it . It may well even have been their way of getting their excuses in early ,if you like Maybe they know the investigation is at high level and they knew they would have to react The final bit about claiming to be separate from the boys club is surely telling Maybe this is how they would get out of any charges brought about, against them ,from the kangaroo court that would be set up to instigate any punishment .If it ever came to that . On the surface .It looks like Daily has targeted Beggars but I'm not so sure ,there is another agenda out there Just don't trust BBC or Daily We know they have previous There was a lot of use of actors in the programme tonight which made me very uneasy I think the order came from above. He's reported it through gritted teeth. The evidence has been on the internet for 17 years. It's been in the papers longer. I have no doubts he has tried his absolute hardest to get anything on Rangers and at the end of the day he's ended up with the majority of dirty, deprived individuals at Celtic. It's no surprise to anyone that the majority of abuse comes from a club steeped in Catholicism. It's in their very nature. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,123 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Whether the boys club was or wasn't affiliated to the club is immaterial, they knew abuse was going on, or were informed that it was going on but they chose to cover it up, if the boys club had no affiliation to them then it would have been quite easy to inform the police Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Nosed Babe 20,527 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Sparkle said: So does that mean they can't confirm or deny because there's an ongoing investigation? Bingo. When we reported it there may have been insufficient evidence so it lay on file. That is very common. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 7 hours ago, Carling1873 said: Well there will be no denying BJK anymore, presented Torbett with an award in his second spell: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-39553258 Unbelievable, unforgivable. Fool me once shame on you , fool me TWICE shame on me. Absolutely damning for BJ. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianferguson 2,619 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 1 hour ago, wearethepeople1 said: There will be scores of young boys who would have fallen pray to torbett at Celtic, I'd imagine many of them will never have spoken of it and won't now. Hopefully a full police investigation gets opened up now and we will see just how rife it was at parkhead Torbett interviewed recently and still says he's innocent and the boys all lied. Says he never went near Brazil and still no comment from tims while the victim suffers more abuse . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjim1690 4,534 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 1 hour ago, ritchieshearercaldow said: Whether the boys club was or wasn't affiliated to the club is immaterial, they knew abuse was going on, or were informed that it was going on but they chose to cover it up, if the boys club had no affiliation to them then it would have been quite easy to inform the police If the boys club had no affiliation to them then how come it was stein himself who booted him out of parkhead ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
72barca 1,788 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 2 hours ago, eejay the dj said: I still believe that the beggars knew this programme was going out and possibly even shaped the reporting of it . It may well even have been their way of getting their excuses in early ,if you like Maybe they know the investigation is at high level and they knew they would have to react The final bit about claiming to be separate from the boys club is surely telling Maybe this is how they would get out of any charges brought about, against them ,from the kangaroo court that would be set up to instigate any punishment .If it ever came to that . On the surface .It looks like Daily has targeted Beggars but I'm not so sure ,there is another agenda out there Just don't trust BBC or Daily We know they have previous There was a lot of use of actors in the programme tonight which made me very uneasy If you are watching the left hand you won't see what the right hand is doing. Look beyond the deflecting headlines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgeIsBlue 66,595 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Shut them down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC55 108,729 Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Going back toy days of youth football. There was Celtic boys club (played in official Celtic strips, all the Celtic training gear, bags tracksuits etc.) you then had Celtic west and Celtic north who wore green and white hoops but could not use real Celtic strips or badge etc. They had no affiliation to the Club. you the. had Rangers boys club who like celtic boys club had all the real gear, official club merchandise and strips etc. You then had Rangers south and Rangers north who again wore what looked like Rangers strips but weren't official ones. The most telling part is both Of The clubs were RFCBC and CFCBC. So from 1993/4 onwards from when I played against both sides the structure was. First team Reserves Pro youth Official boys club That Was The order in which you'd progress. Aberdeen, Clyde, thistle etc all had teams in the league. Aberdeen and Dundee utd used to regionalise their sides. So again these two sides were directly linked to the clubs however they were the west lf Scotland branch if you like and not playing out of Dundee and Aberdeen. Only at pro youth level did that happen Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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