Moody Blue Legend 61,387 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Finance and experience. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kai_Johansen 978 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Moneys not the answer, simply because we don't have any. We start by emptying out the dross accumulated under MW tenure and hope Pedro can bring in some decent players. This season was always going to be a big ask, we simply play out the remainder of the season, gain a European place and go again next season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffbear 4,096 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Banshee said: All the staunch proddies on here to start praying. All the taigs to stop abusing Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Finance. Finance Finance. We need to get back to the calibre of player we had before the admin event. However, then we had players who went on to perform in the EPL in Jelavic, Davis, Naismith, Mcgregor, etc The only way to replace players of that calibre is to buy them. Getting lads from the lower english leagues isnt going to beat cellic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluenose1986 703 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 If nothing improves then we can look forward to empty stands again. This is what worries me. In the early 80s we were paying for a stadium rebuild. Once that was paid for we were always likely to come back strong plus the board pulled Souness out the hat. This time if attendances dwindle I think we'll lose future generations. The football landscape is totally different now and I may be overreacting to current circumstances but I genuinely fear we just become another diddy club like the rest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parlaneloyal 353 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Where does the money come from without putting the club at risk again? Someone has to write off about 30 million to get us competitive Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWBear 1,640 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 40 minutes ago, Amato said: is that the "Pedro out" campaign starting then? Predictable as fuck. Not think he should maybe be given time to bring in some players? Never wanted him in the first place. He has no right to be anywhere near rangers. Have absolutely no reason to think he is a long term solution to our problems. No campaign, I just don't think he has achieve even close t enough to have landed such a prestigious job. It It fucking weird and I've not changed my opinion since were first linked with the man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanoli 4,625 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 We're living through history right now. Our club is in the process of decline that ends in utter irrelevancy. It's happened to several massive clubs before, it's happening to us now. Forget 2012 and before, we've made wrong decision after wrong decision at every turn since. Find one objective, non-bias person that can honestly say it's only a matter of time until we're back on top; or that Celtic won't do 10 in a row; or that we're even on the right track towards genuinely threatening them. You can't, because there aren't any. We're well and truly fighting against the tide right now - a couple more wrong moves and we can forget stopping 10 in a row, we'll be fighting to win 55 before they bastards do. Make no mistake about it, the way things are and the way there headed on current projection - they cunts will be an undeniably bigger club than us within 10 years. That's what's at stake - not just a few titles, or hyped up mythical landmarks like domestic trebles and 10 in a row - absolutely fucking everything is on the line in the next 5-10 years, our clubs dominance is very much in jeopardy and we have to find a way to reverse history. As others have said, how do we do it ? Investment. Where from is our number one problem. We're in an utterly desperate position, and most worringly is it seems we're just hoping things will work out for us at this point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 59 minutes ago, Amato said: is that the "Pedro out" campaign starting then? Predictable as fuck. Not think he should maybe be given time to bring in some players? he should and he will, but can someone please tell me what his credentials are for managing us? cheap? available? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger ranger 922 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 13 minutes ago, KWBear said: Never wanted him in the first place. He has no right to be anywhere near rangers. Have absolutely no reason to think he is a long term solution to our problems. No campaign, I just don't think he has achieve even close t enough to have landed such a prestigious job. It It fucking weird and I've not changed my opinion since were first linked with the man. It's another manager brought in to bring on the mythical youth and work with no money, the games up for the foreseeable future unless real money and a decent manager is brought to the club, believe me nothing is going to change, how can it!!. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear from Carnbroe 24 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Vicious circle I know, but nothing is ever going to change until we get some major and real investment into the club. That is our biggest and number 1 priority. Easier said than done, but Robertson and King aren't doing the financial business off the park so they are just as much to blame as those tossers on the pitch today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchieshearercaldow 22,123 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 The only way to stop the rot is for King to go away, sell up to someone with loads of cash. But that's never going to happen anytime soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Sign 5 or 6 of the best bosmans available on the European market. 5 or 6 of the very best highest quality players this club can afford. If the board are not prepared to pay money in fees then let us, the fans pay their wages. And even more important, rip up at east 14 of those useless cunts contracts as well. Any notion of going into next season with a similar team to this season is a white flag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup2 1,535 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, ritchieshearercaldow said: The only way to stop the rot is for King to go away, sell up to someone with loads of cash. But that's never going to happen anytime soon. We need money to buy decent players and to get rid of most of what we have at present. King is never here so he needs to sell to someone who will be there running us and fighting our corner. Its a bad show when we're behind the Sheep but next season will be the test for Pedro. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbm26896 995 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 If we don't get investment soon , we will have a new manager every 18 months Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 55 minutes ago, OhW said: I'd like to get rid of Stewart Robertson. Post of the day. This guy is more responsible for the decision making than King is ... Kings a dick and gets all the flak but this muppet Robertson is as responsible Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennyBlueNose 652 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Young Bob said: Dave digs into his pocket and gives Pedro 15 million. 15 mil won't be enough when you think about wages, fees etc. I think we need 20-25 mil and that's just to close the gap. 2-3 class players making up the bulk of the spend and a few additional to make up the squad. I just can't see it with DK but I hope I'm wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 3 hours ago, tannerall said: This season's done. We might win a few, draw or lose a few of the remainder. Doesn't matter, many of our players now know they are not good enough. I expect every one of those who now know tthey are not good enough to be punted. 5 or 6, maybe even a few more we'll keep. (Fod, Tav, Wallace, McKay, Miller and the few youngsters who have been given a chance, Beerman, Bates. But where do we go from here in the bigger picture ? Less than two months till a new season starts, the board appears directionless, we still have Ashley holding out for all he can get on the cheap from his investnent. There's no way we'll survive a s the major force in Scottish football if the tims are alowed to carry on at will with us floundering without serious investment or innovation. And you can forget Aberdeen, Hibs and Hearts, wee diddy teams in a wee diddy league, which none of them can even dream of winning. So the bigger picture, are we still a recognisable brand with sufficient stature and potential to invest in ? I believe yes, but if no bugger comes along and tries to sort us out we're just gonna be another poor Scottish team without ambition. Cellic outclassed us totally today, that's scary enough, but I guarantee they'll be investing yet more 10s of millions in the close season to keep us in our place and achieve their European group league money earning rank again. How the fuck are we going to stop this rot ? Yes, they might spend money but its no guarantee of success. It's very hard to find diamonds nowadays - every club is looking everywhere. And scottish football is not a huge carrot A scouting network is paramount - maybe even hopjng that Pedro has an ace or two up his sleeve with in depth knowledge of portugal and middle east and JJ in scandanavia. King et al have to show ambition and meaningful investment. They are not that good - if we can (and i stress can ) recruit 5-6 genuine first 11 players over the summer then we can challenge. They are full of confidence at the moment because there isnt a seriois challenge. We must improve and ask their pishy squad some questions Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennyBlueNose 652 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Tenerife Bear said: Sign 5 or 6 of the best bosmans available on the European market. 5 or 6 of the very best highest quality players this club can afford. If the board are not prepared to pay money in fees then let us, the fans pay their wages. And even more important, rip up at east 14 of those useless cunts contracts as well. Any notion of going into next season with a similar team to this season is a white flag. That's what gets me mate, it's the defeatist attitude, you could tell in the first few kicks of the ball how nervous most of those players were, losing was inevitable and we're lucky it wasn't by more. The tims never really left 1st gear and swanned it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, DennyBlueNose said: 15 mil won't be enough when you think about wages, fees etc. I think we need 20-25 mil and that's just to close the gap. 2-3 class players making up the bulk of the spend and a few additional to make up the squad. I just can't see it with DK but I hope I'm wrong. Shouldn't 40 thousand season ticket holders revenue not cover the wages? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Post of the day. This guy is more responsible for the decision making than King is ... Kings a dick and gets all the flak but this muppet Robertson is as responsible Wonder how much Robertson and that prick Mini are taking out the club? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR1979 1,964 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 2 hours ago, Banshee said: All the staunch proddies on here to start praying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Just now, siddiqi_drinker said: Wonder how much Robertson and that prick Mini are taking out the club? Robertsons wage was revealed a few months ago I'm sure it came in at around 300k with bonus - per annum Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennyBlueNose 652 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 minute ago, K.A.I said: Shouldn't 40 thousand season ticket holders revenue not cover the wages? Aye it should but with little revenue streams elsewhere it's not all going to be spent on wages. We need European football to bring on the quality we need and as it stands I can't see us making it past the 2nd round of qualifying and that's being optimistic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec87 331 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 We have to start signing players that have played international level. I'm no fan of international football but the measure of any player is if he's in or around his national team. Obviously we have to ignore the top 5 or 6 countries in Europe but I'm sick of signing unproven "potential". How many in our current team are near their countries squads ? Lets look at the Scandinavian squads, Eastern European, USA. A lot of these players will be within our wage structure. I would actually make that a criteria on all summer signings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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