DavieMacRFC 850 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 We seemed to revert back to the 4-3-3 on Sunday and it was disastrous. When Murty was in charge he identified the flaws of that formation and changed it to suit the game against those cunts. Surely Pedro will change it for Saturday to eradicate the time and space we gave them on the ball otherwise they will steamroller all over us once again. We saw enough under Warburton to clearly see that the 4-3-3 formation clearly did not work for us and is not suited to the mediocre team we have, get it sorted Pedro. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Formation means nothing if players aren't motivated enough, are too scared, or not willing or able to do their duty. We could have had 15 players on the field and lost the old firm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoGeo7 10,498 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Pedros post match interview suggested the players didn't play the way they had planned. If that's the case then it's hard to judge the managers tactical approach and we know our squad always seem to have good days and fucking awful days. I don't see Pedro going with the same formation at the weekend. We lost out in midfield and he won't want that to happen again but who does he turn to? Our squad is mince and getting midfield sorted and a striker for me is more important this summer than a new defence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, NeoGeo7 said: Pedros post match interview suggested the players didn't play the way they had planned. If that's the case then it's hard to judge the managers tactical approach and we know our squad always seem to have good days and fucking awful days. I don't see Pedro going with the same formation at the weekend. We lost out in midfield and he won't want that to happen again but who does he turn to? Our squad is mince and getting midfield sorted and a striker for me is more important this summer than a new defence. Some moron, think he's called KAI or something, thinks that's an impossibly and actually in his own words - a conspiracy theory - that the players didn't follow his instructions. My original point being we don't know if they did or didn't, but looking at these players performing in past games it's clear they are a large proportion of the problem, so I agree it's very likely they did not follow Pedro instructions. Be it tactical, philosophically or whatever. Good post Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,428 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Surprised he didn't go 4-2-3-1, it's worked for the majority of his time here. Suppose you can't help it when the players are genuinely scared that the assistant actually has to take him aside and tell him to go easy on them. Hopefully there is a summer exodus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Prso's headband said: Surprised he didn't go 4-2-3-1, it's worked for the majority of his time here. Suppose you can't help it when the players are genuinely scared that the assistant actually has to take him aside and tell him to go easy on them. Hopefully there is a summer exodus. Assistant did what? What's your source mate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyson1872 2,923 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Jack The Flipper said: Assistant did what? What's your source mate? Pedro said himself in an interview, before the pre match talk Helder told him to not be as harsh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,428 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Jack The Flipper said: Assistant did what? What's your source mate? Pedro basically said after the match Baptista told him to go easier on the players in his pre-match talk as they were tense and were close to stage fright. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Thanks lads, missed that. No where near Rangers players are they? What a joke. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,531 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, Skyson1872 said: Pedro said himself in an interview, before the pre match talk Helder told him to not be as harsh. why are his pre-match team talks harsh? why they not about remembering the training and what not... unless it's "right Halliday if in the moment yoo not close to anyone as gonna furking kick your baws ya useless small curnt, stop singing aboot sexing the papal man" "Tav, keep tellin yoo yoo are no a furkin attacker furkin hell leev that to Wagghinghorn, although hes no attaker eirther he has go better tatoo's" "Leee Wallace, thank furk your still injury" "how'd we spell yoor name? R..o...ss....i....t....ee....r? who yoo anyway? come back in ten days" "stopping sniffing ma bum hole Philippe, your not getting the moments on the pich furkin ever again" "Jason ...Mmmmm how you say Frango sem cabeça in eenglish? "Kenny, what I say next?" (not racist btw just trying to get across his accent) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Flipper 5,936 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: why are his pre-match team talks harsh? why they not about remembering the training and what not... unless it's "right Halliday if in the moment yoo not close to anyone as gonna furking kick your baws ya useless small curnt, stop singing aboot sexing the papal man" "Tav, keep tellin yoo yoo are no a furkin attacker furkin hell leev that to Wagghinghorn, although hes no attaker eirther he has go better tatoo's" "Leee Wallace, thank furk your still injury" "how'd we spell yoor name? R..o...ss....i....t....ee....r? who yoo anyway? come back in ten days" "stopping sniffing ma bum hole Philippe, your not getting the moments on the pich furkin ever again" "Jason ...Mmmmm how you say Frango sem cabeça in eenglish? "Kenny, what I say next?" (not racist btw just trying to get across his accent) I heard Pedro keeps calling the players Mi Puta Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlands plater 16,974 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Jock Wallace must be turning in his grave. Imagine one of that namby pamby, lily-livered, yellow-bellied shower going in to face him at half time and saying "but...but...the ugliest one keeps staring at me and growling". Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandhi1872 186 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 It was 4-4-2 on Sunday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bob 1,360 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 56 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: why are his pre-match team talks harsh? why they not about remembering the training and what not... unless it's "right Halliday if in the moment yoo not close to anyone as gonna furking kick your baws ya useless small curnt, stop singing aboot sexing the papal man" "Tav, keep tellin yoo yoo are no a furkin attacker furkin hell leev that to Wagghinghorn, although hes no attaker eirther he has go better tatoo's" "Leee Wallace, thank furk your still injury" "how'd we spell yoor name? R..o...ss....i....t....ee....r? who yoo anyway? come back in ten days" "stopping sniffing ma bum hole Philippe, your not getting the moments on the pich furkin ever again" "Jason ...Mmmmm how you say Frango sem cabeça in eenglish? "Kenny, what I say next?" (not racist btw just trying to get across his accent) Ah fuck The come back in ten days line had me howlin . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bob 1,360 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 47 minutes ago, Gandhi1872 said: It was 4-4-2 on Sunday. Not in the 1st half it wasnt. Was 4-3-3 and the worst performance we have ever had against Bheast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,465 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 4-3-1-2, is what I thought it was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavieMacRFC 850 Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 47 minutes ago, Gandhi1872 said: It was 4-4-2 on Sunday. In theory it was a 4-3-1-2 but they always seem to revert to the 4-3-3 . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandhi1872 186 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Young Bob said: Not in the 1st half it wasnt. Was 4-3-3 and the worst performance we have ever had against Bheast. 1 minute ago, dande101 said: In theory it was a 4-3-1-2 but they always seem to revert to the 4-3-3 . The first half was a 4-4-2. Certainly defensively at the very least. Hyndman was on the right and Miller on the left of a 4. Waghorn and Garner up front. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bob 1,360 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Gandhi1872 said: The first half was a 4-4-2. Certainly defensively at the very least. Hyndman was on the right and Miller on the left of a 4. Waghorn and Garner up front. Disagree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
writingranger 1,413 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Young Bob said: Disagree. agreed. It looked like 8-0-2 to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze 14,531 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 hour ago, writingranger said: agreed. It looked like 8-0-2 to me. 1-6-9-0 to me to you Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bob 1,360 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 hour ago, writingranger said: agreed. It looked like 8-0-2 to me. Going to far there. 4-0-3 and I might have agreed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 4 hours ago, dande101 said: We seemed to revert back to the 4-3-3 on Sunday and it was disastrous. When Murty was in charge he identified the flaws of that formation and changed it to suit the game against those cunts. Surely Pedro will change it for Saturday to eradicate the time and space we gave them on the ball otherwise they will steamroller all over us once again. We saw enough under Warburton to clearly see that the 4-3-3 formation clearly did not work for us and is not suited to the mediocre team we have, get it sorted Pedro. Worry much more about the lack of spirit, lack of passion and total lack of character than I do about the formation. When Pedro came on board he spoke about working in training on pushing the high-line, saying it is part of his philosophy. Where the hell was that 'push' on Sunday? Closest we got to 'push' was 'PISH'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T.G 10,773 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Lack of fight plus a 433 was always going to be a defeat The quicker the players realise they need to go into this game like their lives depend on it, the more successful they will be. Id be happy if I never see a 433 Rangers team ever again. It's become a hoo Doo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 6 hours ago, Jack The Flipper said: Formation means nothing if players aren't motivated enough, are too scared, or not willing or able to do their duty. We could have had 15 players on the field and lost the old firm. ...or if they are not good enough in the first place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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