SeparateEntityMyArse 53,612 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Willie Henderson says Rangers must spend £50 million on players to catch Celtic. Former Rangers winger Willie Henderson claims £50million is required for new players if the Ibrox club is to compete with Celtic. The Light Blues were dismissed with ease in Sunday's William Hill Scottish Cup semi-final at Hampden Park by the Hoops whose 2-0 win was no reflection of their superiority in a season where they have not lost in five Old Firm meetings. The Parkhead club secured their sixth Ladbrokes Premiership title earlier in the month and are gunning for the treble in their first season with Brendan Rodgers as boss. Read more: John Beaton named as referee for Rangers v Celtic clash at Ibrox Henderson, star of the Ibrox club in the 1960s and early 1970s, was speaking at the national stadium where he was helping launch this year's nominations for the Scottish Football Hall of Fame. The former Scotland player was scathing of Rangers' efforts on Sunday and said: "The fans at least expect an enormous effort from players wearing the blue jersey. "They accept that Celtic are a better team just now but they shouldn't be a better team with effort and that was disappointing for the fans who have put up with a lot for a long time. "If Rangers are going to compete with Celtic, there has to be a huge investment in this club to purchase players who are going to be of a standard who can play for Glasgow Rangers and compete with Celtic. "£50million, solely for players. It might be an idea for another investor, if there is another investor who could be brought into the club who is interested in putting money into football. It is certainly needed. "I am not privy to anything that goes on in the business side of it but if it is going to take someone else to be added to what is already at Rangers, prepared to invest the money in the club, then maybe it is time that the board sit round the table and discuss it with other people. "You are going to have the same situation that you have just now if they don't do that." Henderson believes it is over half a century since there was such a gulf between the two clubs. Ahead of the last league meeting of the season between the clubs at Ibrox on Saturday, he said: "We played Celtic on the Saturday (1963 Scottish Cup final) and drew and on the Wednesday we beat Celtic 3-0 in the replay, in front of a quarter of a million people in total. "At that stage there was a huge gulf between Celtic and Rangers. "We were far in front but then along came the genius Jock Stein (Celtic's European Cup winning manager). The gulf today is the same as before Jock Stein came. "We were always very confident of beating Celtic. Today, I don't think there is a Celtic player who if they are going out and putting a shift in, would fear getting beat by Glasgow Rangers." Henderson believes that any manager, not only the recently appointed Portuguese coach Pedro Caixinha, would struggle with the Ibrox squad of whom he would keep only "three or four" for next season. He said: "There are a lot of players at Ibrox who, for a considerable time, have had a chance to prove themselves to be of that class and I am afraid some of them are not that good. "Kenny Miller has had a really good season. He would be the first to admit that he is getting on but with his experience I would keep him on, "I would keep the goalkeeper (Wes Foderingham), Lee Wallace and the lad (Emerson) Hyndman. "These are good players. But you would certainly need to add to the squad. "It is all very well bringing managers in but as I said earlier, when Jock Stein came in, players like Jimmy Johnstone, Tommy Gemmell and Bobby Murdoch were there. "We don't have players of that calibre just now, for any manager coming in, to be able to improve the team that much." Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpidermansGaffer 2,552 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Well said wee man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullies_bowly_legs 3,779 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Agreed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nik2402 1,318 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 50 million ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al 55 9,241 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Agree regards to effort, 50m is total pish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefootwillie 1,518 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 And who is going to give us the 50 million. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcb 1,167 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 No matter what WH says there is no prospect of anyone putting up this kind of money. The simple fact is there isn't a short-term solution to the position we find ourselves in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEE 4,880 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 £50m will only get us half of Dembele fs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemdale1873 167 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Giving that mob from across town way too much credit. They are the best of a really poor bunch at the minute anytime they step up a level in Europe they struggle big time. A decent manager with about 12-15m would put them to the sword. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,016 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Sorry but what a lot of dross that is Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 He was quite vocal towards King at the start of the season, too. He was totally correct then. I agree with his narrative/tone/gist but not the figure of 50-million. 15-million spent well would get us competing with Celtic again IMO and by spent well I mean players like Davis, Mendes, Cuellar, Naismith, Bougherra, Jelavic, Miller (second time round), Cousin etc. They were all 1-4 million each. I know there's an argument saying you can't get players for those prices anymore but I think you can, if you spend wisely. I appreciate it's easier said than done but that's where a good scouting department comes in which we need to assemble too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smell the hotdog 4,015 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 50 million ?? For as shite as we were on Sunday they won 2-0 would think it was 5 or 6 the way they are going on. We were fuckin awful yet still should have scored a few goals. On another day we get the handball pen and Miller or Waghorn puts their chances away. Investment needed most definitely but 50m? Do us a favour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Fucking brilliant. Spot on. I'm getting he's not a fan of king and co with the 50 mil quip. A true legend.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,348 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, lazza1873 said: 50 million ?? For as shite as we were on Sunday they won 2-0 would think it was 5 or 6 the way they are going on. We were fuckin awful yet still should have scored a few goals. On another day we get the handball pen and Miller or Waghorn puts their chances away. Investment needed most definitely but 50m? Do us a favour. Take Waghorn out the second part. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T.G 10,773 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Doesn't take £50m. It takes 5/6 proven quality players whose price we don't know yet We need leaders, experience and above all a mentality who knows 2nd isn't good enough. We will get there but it's going to be the long game. The scum will not get any better. There is only one direction for them and that is down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,612 Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said: Fucking brilliant. Spot on. I'm getting he's not a fan of king and co with the 50 mil quip. A true legend.. ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATP-FOREVER 5,231 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 At least £100m - then we could safely compete with Middlesbrough, (that's if we were to play them). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Avenger 22,567 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, jcb said: No matter what WH says there is no prospect of anyone putting up this kind of money. The simple fact is there isn't a short-term solution to the position we find ourselves in. There could be if we didn't have the current crop potless lying bastards, living off our fucking money. So what's the the long term solution? Keeping these potless cunts at the top table? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T.G 10,773 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, ForeverAndEver said: 1, they were average as fuck. 2, Take Waghorn out the second part. Against our shite they look like world beaters, among the rest of Scotland they look invincible. Put them against a team well drilled and well organised with a few decent players and they fail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,315 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Nonsense. £50 million You're talking £20million maximum solely on players to guarantee the title. The media and others are giving them far too much credit, they have 4 players who are good quality, Sinclair, Dembele, Armstrong and Sviatchenko. We need 4 players to match or be better than that and yes that does cost money but lets face it, if your going to spend £4million on one player and bring him to Scottish football, obviously he's going to rip it apart and the other 3 have been half decent buys or punts that have worked. The rest of their squad is poor, average at best. Fod, Wilson Wallace Revamped midfield, keep Windass Dodoo Keep Beerman and Bates. You're talking 4 quality players who would be drastically missed if they were suspended etc and a couple of others to bulk out the squad who could come in and do a job in the cups etc. Were not £50 million far away, I don't believe were £20 million far away either but if you wanted to make sure the league was won that's the figure you're looking at. I believe £10million would have us challenging all the way for the league. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Doesn't matter who says how much money we need it's not going to change the fact that King has none. He needs chased and hopefully the protest that's supposedly happening this week will be the start of that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 I think £20M spent would do it easily and I base that on some facts not a figure plucked out the air as follows: Celtics first team squad who played against Barca recently: CELTIC : Dorus de Vries (Nottingham Forest, £100,000), Mikael Lustig (Rosenborg, pre-contract), Kolo Toure (Liverpool, free), Erik Sviatchenko (FC Midtjylland, £1.5m), Kieran Tierney, (Home grown, free), Scott Brown (Hibs, £4.4m), (Callum McGregor (Home grown, free), Nir Bitton (FC Ashdod, £700,000), James Forrest (Home grown, free), (Patrick Roberts (Manchester City, loan), Tom Rogic (Central Coast Mariners, £500,000), (Stuart Armstrong (Dundee Utd, £1.75m), Scott Sinclair (Aston Villa, £4m), Moussa Dembele (Fulham, £500,000). UNUSED SUBS: Craig Gordon (Free), Emilio Izaguirre (Motagua, £650,000), Nadir Ciftci (Dundee Utd, £1.5m), Cristian Gamboa (WBA, £1m). TOTAL: £16.6m. and thats an entire squad Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
five stars 1,633 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 If mccoist was still manager then yeah it would take 50 million. With a good manager and 10 million wisely spent we will be able to compete. With an exceptional manager 5 million would do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,612 Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 I don't reckon a great manager would need 50m. But if you look at it a different way and sold both first team squads (which they'll have CL money to improve), then we're probably ball park around that figure. They also have a settled squad with depth which we don't. He's telling the Board mighty improvement and investment us needed and get gets my thanks for puting his neck on the line to do so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcb 1,167 Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Blue Avenger said: There could be if we didn't have the current crop potless lying bastards, living off our fucking money. So what's the the long term solution? Keeping these potless cunts at the top table? Of course things would change if we had a Owner/board with the financial clout to rebuild the club. The simple fact however is we don't and there is no sign of anyone battering down the doors to do so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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