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NeoGeo7    2,902
14 minutes ago, K.A.I said:

The thought of Wilson even next to Alves is depressing as fuck.

We can't fall into this trap - we need much better, full stop.

Got to agree I think with 2 seasons under his belt in his second stint and I think he's a squad player at best.

To be honest i thought you were all talking about Aidan Wilson who I do think has potential alongside an Alves type defender :thumbsup:

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JamesRFC__    172
16 minutes ago, K.A.I said:

The thought of Wilson even next to Alves is depressing as fuck.

We can't fall into this trap - we need much better, full stop.

Totally agree. Wilson won't give us that strong spine that a title challenging squad needs. Would be a constant weakness in my opinion. 

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Creampuff    8,023

We've won titles with poorer defenders than Danny Wilson. 

He's not ideal, but if we bring in Alves I would rather see us bring in a quality player in another position than shelling out for another centre half.

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WWTC    795
1 minute ago, Creampuff said:

We've won titles with poorer defenders than Danny Wilson. 

We've even won a title WITH Danny Wilson! 

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NeoGeo7    2,902
2 minutes ago, Creampuff said:

We've won titles with poorer defenders than Danny Wilson. 

He's not ideal, but if we bring in Alves I would rather see us bring in a quality player in another position than shelling out for another centre half.

You do have a valid point, we moaned about defence but scoring goals was probably our biggest issue last year.

I do get the feeling Pedro wants a hard working together unit that is hard to beat first and foremost. Creative players aren't cheap.

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13 minutes ago, NeoGeo7 said:

You do have a valid point, we moaned about defence but scoring goals was probably our biggest issue last year.

I do get the feeling Pedro wants a hard working together unit that is hard to beat first and foremost. Creative players aren't cheap.

It definitely is our biggest issue.

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WWTC    795
42 minutes ago, NeoGeo7 said:

You do have a valid point, we moaned about defence but scoring goals was probably our biggest issue last year.

I do get the feeling Pedro wants a hard working together unit that is hard to beat first and foremost. Creative players aren't cheap.

Our defending has been truely awful just about all season, but often it was from being exposed or out of position. How often did Tav get caught out with cross balls at the start of the season? But our system left our defence horribly exposed, and we had no defensive side to our midfield at all. 

 

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Inigo    11,587

Defo need a minimum of one more quality centre half. No doubt about it.

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NeoGeo7    2,902
15 minutes ago, WWTC said:

Our defending has been truely awful just about all season, but often it was from being exposed or out of position. How often did Tav get caught out with cross balls at the start of the season? But our system left our defence horribly exposed, and we had no defensive side to our midfield at all. 

 

Yup defending starts up the park in open play. Our midfield this year have been powerderpuff, lazy shitebags who never get stuck in, never track back and as you say the whole full backs marauding forward and being caught out positionally (then casually jog back) has been our undoing. That's why wing backs usually get played with a back 3.

Would love Alves and another of that ilk, 2 solid hardworking midfielders, 2 creative midfielders/wingers and a striker that can finish.

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Jimbeamjunior    8,901
15 hours ago, Creampuff said:

We've won titles with poorer defenders than Danny Wilson. 

He's not ideal, but if we bring in Alves I would rather see us bring in a quality player in another position than shelling out for another centre half.

Who was a poorer centre half than wilson? 

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Getstiffed    4,871
11 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

Who was a poorer centre half than wilson? 

Khizanishvili?

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magic8ball    496
14 hours ago, Sasa Papac's War Flashbac. said:

Wilson's been excellent since the snake slithered away up until his injury. He's another good player who's been dragged down by shite alongside him. 

Prepare to be shot down .I tend to agree with you in some aspects though. I think he could come on level or 2 playing beside the right guy.Bruno could be that guy 

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Jimbeamjunior    8,901
48 minutes ago, Getstiffed said:

Khizanishvili?

Not a starting centre half and didnt win a title either im sure

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Getstiffed    4,871
7 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

Not a starting centre half and didnt win a title either im sure

Won it in 2004-05. Made 16 appearances.

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Marky.    2,480
14 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

Not a starting centre half and didnt win a title either im sure

04/05

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Jimbeamjunior    8,901
11 minutes ago, Getstiffed said:

Won it in 2004-05. Made 16 appearances.

 

10 minutes ago, Marky. said:

04/05

Again boumsong, andrews and kyrgiakos (sp) were our starting centre halves

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Getstiffed    4,871
27 minutes ago, ForeverAndEver said:

He not a right back?

Wasn't much of either.

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Getstiffed    4,871
22 minutes ago, Jimbeamjunior said:

 

Again boumsong, andrews and kyrgiakos (sp) were our starting centre halves

Wasn't disagreeing with you, just answering your query about him winning a title.

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Ryju84    1,364
1 hour ago, Scott1872 said:

So Bruno Alves...

Who? 

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PRW.    4,045
1 hour ago, Scott1872 said:

So Bruno Alves...

Wont get in the team ahead of Aidan Wilson

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rfc1990    479

A booking and conceded 6 goals in his last game for Cagliari... 

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