Turnberry18 3,204 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, mearns loyal said: Agreed that age is not always a factor but at 23 you're no longer a promising youth... Of course, I agree, and if he didn't develop next season, with or without better players then he should be moved on. I think he has some potential, but we'll need to see a great deal of improvement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxholm 2,276 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, Turnberry18 said: Age is not the only determinate factor as to how good a player will be. Josh played lower league English football, by all accounts he was highly rated there. I am suggesting that he may do better with better players around him. I agree with you.  We have to have a team structure that allows players such as Windass to make the best of their particular skills.  At present, our team is totally unbalanced, quite honestly a shambles.  If we get new solid dependable CBs and centre midfield in, it will go a long way to improving the balance of our team. The other huge thing that very few fans seem to factor in is player confidence.  After the season we have had, the confidence level of all our players including Windass must be at rock bottom.  Get the team winning regularly again, get some confidence back in the team and its often surprising the transformation it makes in players (Alan Hutton comes to mind). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, Ibroxholm said: I agree with you.  We have to have a team structure that allows players such as Windass to make the best of their particular skills.  At present, our team is totally unbalanced, quite honestly a shambles.  If we get new solid dependable CBs and centre midfield in, it will go a long way to improving the balance of our team. The other huge thing that very few fans seem to factor in is player confidence.  After the season we have had, the confidence level of all our players including Windass must be at rock bottom.  Get the team winning regularly again, get some confidence back in the team and its often surprising the transformation it makes in players (Alan Hutton comes to mind). Great post, and a good example of Alan Hutton. The balance of the team is not good, and we don't have many leaders at all either. If a player's head goes down there isn't really anyone there to lift it. It's funny when you hear the 9-In a row team, in interviews etc, and even those with the strongest character say how McCoist and Durrant lifted them off the floor at times. If they needed it, then I imagine a fair few or younger players need it, especially in a season like this. Hopefully we get a few leaders in, with good ability more importantly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Deacon 55,168 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Today he showed he can play but over this season he's not really been consistent Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 His decision making is awful, as is his attitude, if we can make any kind of a profit on him this summer then please get rid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,469 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Best player today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeirFleckNRothen 1,789 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 I think there's a player there, but he's been utterly abysmal. He looked decent today, but over the course of the season, he's offered absolutely nothing. I honestly can't recall a single input since he smoked that Hamilton defender on the opening day, then he fucked it. He won't move on; he's young and has time on his contract. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siddiqi_drinker 14,635 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 29 minutes ago, Dan Deacon said: Today he showed he can play but over this season he's not really been consistent Guy is an enigma, has some natural ability but you just never know if he will show up and he has all the 'fight and desire' of many of his team-mates. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 I'd sell him we need stronger players with a better attitude. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Hurlock Loyal 12,133 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Haven't read this thread at all this week, slaughtered to the point of abuse one game, best player in our squad the next! It's the RM way I suppose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prso's headband 35,428 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Has raw footballing ability, that's it. Doesn't have the footballing brain, attitude, or mentality to succeed as a footballer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Williamson. 82,177 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Top class player. Should build a team around him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theweebluenose 4,332 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 I'd ship him out on loan next season and hopefully we see an improvement, can't risk having him as a starter next season on what I've seen so far. Would do the same with Dodoo as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Does the famous RM Barrie McKay logic not apply to this one? Get a better manager in and surround him with better players and he'll become world class? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 27 minutes ago, theweebluenose said: I'd ship him out on loan next season and hopefully we see an improvement, can't risk having him as a starter next season on what I've seen so far. Would do the same with Dodoo as well. I'd sell Dodoo if we can get anyone to take him. He's never making it here in a million years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Watching the Bradford Millwall play off final yesterday and the lack of quality from both teams in the final third reminded of watching Windass and made me think that League one in England really is about his level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theweebluenose 4,332 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, LaudrupsPatrickBoots said: I'd sell Dodoo if we can get anyone to take him. He's never making it here in a million years. I'm doubtful he will make it also along with Windass but it may be worth seeing how either do with a regular run of games. If they do well enough but are still not deemed good enough on returning it may be easier to shift them. I'm right in saying both have got two years left? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brackley Bluenose 4,479 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 He's like the poster boy for this shit season. I look at his little face and I just think how shit most of our players are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HG5 11,112 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, sandyinroyalblue said: Watching the Bradford Millwall play off final yesterday and the lack of quality from both teams in the final third reminded of watching Windass and made me think that League one in England really is about his level. Interestingly, any clue Bradford had evaporated when Nicky Law went off, I thought. He must've learned something up here! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lloyd72 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 He has some ability, but he's a cunt and a fucking moron. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Enclosure Row N 2,823 Posted May 21, 2017 Author Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, ForeverAndEver said: Best player today. I have to disagree very strongly. Bates saved our bacon a dozen times over again and again from where I was sat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilberforce1 605 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, Lloyd72 said: He has some ability, but he's a cunt and a fucking moron. Are you sure that sentence is not taken from your annual appraisal? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lloyd72 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, wilberforce1 said: Are you sure that sentence is not taken from your annual appraisal? Thought I had heard it somewhere before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoopsLaud 4,186 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Not half the player his auld man was and he was a fat cunt. Says it all. Accrington is Josh's level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackrfc95 4,255 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 If there's one player that sums up the Warburton era it's Josh Windass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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