gmcf 34,138 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Think he'd be a great signing , now let's get someone to partner him at CH . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, theiconicman said: Would be wording if true. Means Alves would be only new CB. That's part of the problem with the Hill scenario, he was the one most would've kept but the only one out of contract. Keep him and the 4 CH are the same as last year. Release and there's space and money to replace. It'd be daft to bring in a 5th in Alves whilst still paying Hill, Kiernan, D Wilson and Bates. Will be happy if Alves comes in and Kiernan goes and is replaced by another no nonsense sort. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valance1690 3,826 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 hour ago, the_r_sole said: Aye, right enough, it's not like we've been crying out for a decent CB since the third division and this cunt alves has won fuck all apart from 7 league titles, 7 domestic cups and been part of the Portugal international side for years... Fuck all to get excited by there, he'll not keep kiernan out the team anyway Ignore the fact the cunt is 35, got a few years left in him at a maximum, will be on a ridiculous wage (for our club) and the team he played for last season had a shocking defensive record... 10 years ago, aye i'd be excited as most people on here, it's a decent signing but nothing more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smell the hotdog 4,015 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 26 minutes ago, theiconicman said: Would be wording if true. Means Alves would be only new CB. Absolute no danger we are only signing one CB. Alves on €1m a year apparently that's roughly 16k a week which Senderos was rumoured to be on. Some swap that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giffnockger 4,840 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Do do do do Bruno Alves Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
there'sonlyoneamoruso 1,724 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 50 minutes ago, Alec87 said: I've said in another post weeks ago we need to be signing players who play for their country. A centre mid & centre forward of the same quality is essential. Then try to get the rest of the shitbags we can't shift to do the basics round these three. Naismith and Lafferty? *Ducks for cover with tin hat on* Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 7 hours ago, Queen's_highway said: The guy won the euros last year. Imagine saying that about kiernan etc good point Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackrfc95 4,255 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 27 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: That's part of the problem with the Hill scenario, he was the one most would've kept but the only one out of contract. Keep him and the 4 CH are the same as last year. Release and there's space and money to replace. It'd be daft to bring in a 5th in Alves whilst still paying Hill, Kiernan, D Wilson and Bates. Will be happy if Alves comes in and Kiernan goes and is replaced by another no nonsense sort. It cost nothing to shift Hill, it may cost us money to get rid of Kiernan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_r_sole 366 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 18 minutes ago, Valance1690 said: Ignore the fact the cunt is 35, got a few years left in him at a maximum, will be on a ridiculous wage (for our club) and the team he played for last season had a shocking defensive record... 10 years ago, aye i'd be excited as most people on here, it's a decent signing but nothing more. a few years of quality is absolutely fine by me at any age, we don't have any quality or experience in there at the moment so the manager is bringing someone he knows can do a job. What wage is he on btw? interested to know what figures you have for that... A "decent" signing is more than we've had for years so I'll take it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 hour ago, the_r_sole said: Tbh i think he's exactly what we need at the moment, he's still playing a lot of games at a higher standard and we need an experienced head in the centre of the back line, hill did well enough and alves has 4 years on him! Would much prefer to get a couple of older heads who know how to win in the side especially if the rest is going to be made up with younger inexperienced players Cribari was signed from Lazio if I remember correctly and he was woeful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: If we got one solid season out him to really strengthen us at the back and significantly improve the points we picked up, which gives Pedro breathing space for a few more transfer windows, I'd be delighted. I will be happy if Bruno does a decent job but I would rather Pedro was replaced by someone who knows what they are doing asap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amato 3,016 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Straight-Edge-Loyal said: I will be happy if Bruno does a decent job but I would rather Pedro was replaced by someone who knows what they are doing asap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 26 minutes ago, jackrfc95 said: It cost nothing to shift Hill, it may cost us money to get rid of Kiernan. Exactly. And probably a good part of the reason he was let go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,247 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 44 minutes ago, Valance1690 said: Ignore the fact the cunt is 35, got a few years left in him at a maximum, will be on a ridiculous wage (for our club) and the team he played for last season had a shocking defensive record... 10 years ago, aye i'd be excited as most people on here, it's a decent signing but nothing more. Like you've ignored the fact thst his team have finished mid table in their first year back in the top league? How many years is "a few"? How much are we going to pay him? Hes not on great money in Italy and knocked back more money to go there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWTC 2,247 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, Straight-Edge-Loyal said: Cribari was signed from Lazio if I remember correctly and he was woeful. Whats your point? Are you comparing the two because they play in the same position and played in the same league, for a season, years apart? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, Straight-Edge-Loyal said: I will be happy if Bruno does a decent job but I would rather Pedro was replaced by someone who knows what they are doing asap. And what if he's said he'd use the remainder of the season to assess the squads capabilities then bring in a good number of players he knows / can trust to play to his preferred style in the summer? He's doing what he said he would. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valance1690 3,826 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 27 minutes ago, the_r_sole said: a few years of quality is absolutely fine by me at any age, we don't have any quality or experience in there at the moment so the manager is bringing someone he knows can do a job. What wage is he on btw? interested to know what figures you have for that... A "decent" signing is more than we've had for years so I'll take it Seen he was earning around a million euros a year (paper talk) so would be on about 15k a week? Quite a lot of our club just now Aye he's defo an improvement, just not got the excitement for him that most seem to have lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valance1690 3,826 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, WWTC said: Like you've ignored the fact thst his team have finished mid table in their first year back in the top league? How many years is "a few"? How much are we going to pay him? Hes not on great money in Italy and knocked back more money to go there. Not ignoring nothing...not saying this guy is a bad signing btw or a waste of wages....just not as buzzing as the rest seem to be! Guessing he'll be on the higher wages in our squad, similar to what Barton/Senderos were on To answer the other part....a few years, talking maybe 2/3 maximum if he plays well Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_r_sole 366 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, Straight-Edge-Loyal said: Cribari was signed from Lazio if I remember correctly and he was woeful. we've signed plenty of woeful players tbh - he had only played a few games in the seasons before joining us I think maybe in brasil? But he was completely unknown to the manager. Alves has played a good amount of football this season and was part of a euro winning portugal team the summer before - and has worked with the manager before, I would guess/hope that he's been signed because the manager knows what he wants out a cb and alves can provide that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 23 minutes ago, Amato said: That's someone who isn't afraid to replace useless managers and we have one who has numerous problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 19 minutes ago, WWTC said: Whats your point? Are you comparing the two because they play in the same position and played in the same league, for a season, years apart? Yes pretty much that and they arrived with a supposed big reputation and hopes for us. I just want our title back and to build sustainably and working on a better plan for the future. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 21 minutes ago, Sportingintegritymyarse said: And what if he's said he'd use the remainder of the season to assess the squads capabilities then bring in a good number of players he knows / can trust to play to his preferred style in the summer? He's doing what he said he would. Do you trust Pedro to do a good job regardless of who he signs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, Straight-Edge-Loyal said: Do you trust Pedro to do a good job regardless of who he signs? No. Cos if he doesn't sign anyone he's left with a squad of duds he and any other manager would fail with. Do I think he deserves an opportunity to sign players he believes can significantly improve us? Yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight-Edge-Loyal 6,686 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Just now, Sportingintegritymyarse said: No. Cos if he doesn't sign anyone he's left with a squad of duds he and any other manager would fail with. Do I think he deserves an opportunity to sign players he believes can significantly improve us? Yes. I wouldn't have taken him as manager at all we need better in every aspect of our club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeparateEntityMyArse 53,715 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, Straight-Edge-Loyal said: I wouldn't have taken him as manager at all we need better in every aspect of our club. That's fair enough. Don't see anyone really saying he's absolutely the real deal and the ideal manager. But he's here now so the retrospective stuff is futile. Some argue spend 3 million or so to pay him off, bring in someone else none of whom appear phenomenal appointments, and then it'll all be fine. Despite us having no budget to improve the playing squad. I'm saying he's been naive at times and wrong at times but that I reckon a lot of stuff going on in the background is necessary but impacting on players buying into him and to performances. He's alienating and dropping those he wants out for kids, and it seems a far from happy camp as a result. But he's right to do it even if it costs us points now if it gets rid of contracted shite like MOH, Forrester, Halliday, Kiernan. So I'm giving him a break now and backing him getting to bring in his own players. If a few can be as positive as Alves I'll be delighted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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