Thermopylae 15,286 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 If an ex chairman used his political influence to make hmrc jump all over us ensuring we are years behind them for the foreseeable future what else could they be than the establishment club who owe their position in the Scottish game to the help they receive from outside football? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummiesoot 16,002 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Wean touchers club surely, Thermo. And the answer is yes they are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 On 05/07/2017 at 3:09 PM, Thermopylae said: If an ex chairman used his political influence to make hmrc jump all over us ensuring we are years behind them for the foreseeable future what else could they be than the establishment club who owe their position in the Scottish game to the help they receive from outside football? They have just released a statement demanding us to be stripped of titles, time our board grew a set and set the record straight with their track record maybe they should report pedophiles to the police and not let them back in would be a starter. The gloves are off , over to the Rangers board, fight fire with fire and demand to know why the SFA did nothing at the time and are still doing nothing regarding the let a known pedophile back in the club after refusing to alert the police the first time . The board did say they new who our enemy's were and they would fight back at the right time. Well it's all out fucking war with those scummy bastards now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, Copland bear said: They have just released a statement demanding us to be stripped of titles, time our board grew a set and set the record straight with their track record maybe they should report pedophiles to the police and not let them back in would be a starter. The gloves are off , over to the Rangers board, fight fire with fire and demand to know why the SFA did nothing at the time and are still doing nothing regarding the let a known ledophile back in the club after refusing to alert the police the first time . The board did say they new who wee enemy's wee and they would fight back at the right time. Well it's all out fucking war with those scummy bastards now. As you say the phony war is over it's now out in the open and that's a very good thing Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I don't think anyone would have a case against us to have titles stripped, all our then players need to do is say they'd still have joined Rangers even if the EBT wasn't on offer, they were still paid a salary. It's not cheating to win a football game in any way at all. They really are a shameless football club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, Gaz52 said: I don't think anyone would have a case against us to have titles stripped, all our then players need to do is say they'd still have joined Rangers even if the EBT wasn't on offer, they were still paid a salary. It's not cheating to win a football game in any way at all. They really are a shameless football club. It's almost as if they engineered this whole thing isn't it ... strange that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copland bear 7,966 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 7 hours ago, Thermopylae said: As you say the phony war is over it's now out in the open and that's a very good thing As I said fight fire with fire and name and shame them as a club who protected a known sex abuser for 20 odd years and even taking him back, It took Wee McCann to sort it all out and the cunt got convicted , but now we know after he was kicked out he was let back in. Tax cheats? I can live with that. But Protecting child abusers ? No fucking way as that's the lowest if the low in society So time for the dignified silence to stop and watch Celtic retreat if we say this and the SFA step in as it's gonna get ugly. We take 2nd prize now we might as well give up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Just now, Thermopylae said: It's almost as if they engineered this whole thing isn't it ... strange that If we didn't just endure one of the worst nights in our history last night then I'd be laughing at them right now, but the way our luck has went over the past few years, I can honestly see them getting something out of this Thing is, look at the amount of tax evasion involved in football, even their ex players and managers were in tax avoidance schemes. The only thing that's really different is we as a club offered them it as part of their package to sign, so we as a club are liable for punishment, but punishment should be in the form of a hefty fine It would be up to the SFA to take titles from us. They would then need to answer questions about any tim player that was involved in tax avoidance schemes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, Copland bear said: S I said fight fire with fire and name and shame them as a club who protected a known sex abuser for 20 odd years and even taking him back, It took Wee McCann to sort it all out and the cunt got convicted , but now we know after he was kicked out he was let back in. Tac cheats? I can live with that Protecting child abusers ? No fucking way. So time for the dignified silence to stop and watch Celtic retreat if we say this and the SFA step in as it's gonna get ugly. We take 2nd prize now we might as well give up. I'm hoping that finally having a clear common enemy will finally bring all Bears together with the club ... there has been too much infighting because we are so much stronger together as a single force Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Our debt is with the tax authorities though, not Celtic football club, so don't let them be the victims in this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, Gaz52 said: If we didn't just endure one of the worst nights in our history last night then I'd be laughing at them right now, but the way our luck has went over the past few years, I can honestly see them getting something out of this Thing is, look at the amount of tax evasion involved in football, even their ex players and managers were in tax avoidance schemes. The only thing that's really different is we as a club offered them it as part of their package to sign, so we as a club are liable for punishment, but punishment should be in the form of a hefty fine It would be up to the SFA to take titles from us. They would then need to answer questions about any tim player that was involved in tax avoidance schemes Unfortunately the best chance we would have had of getting to the bottom of why hmrc chose us was to win the case but now that's gone Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, Gaz52 said: Our debt is with the tax authorities though, not Celtic football club, so don't let them be the victims in this. ... and how did their chairman know we were on the road to ruin 2 years before anyone else? It definitely seems that the lines between politics and football were blurred to an unacceptable extent Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Just now, Thermopylae said: Unfortunately the best chance we would have had of getting to the bottom of why hmrc chose us was to win the case but now that's gone If the club at the time thought they were doing something illegal then I highly doubt they'd have left a paper trail. There needs to be common sense when thinking about punishment, the club were naive and thought they were offering employees something lawful The fact the tims think there's a chance of getting defaulted titles out of this says all you need to know about their club Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, Gaz52 said: If the club at the time thought they were doing something illegal then I highly doubt they'd have left a paper trail. There needs to be common sense when thinking about punishment, the club were naive and thought they were offering employees something lawful The fact the tims think there's a chance of getting defaulted titles out of this says all you need to know about their club I think any reasonable person would think we have been punished more than enough Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Just now, Thermopylae said: I think any reasonable person would think we have been punished more than enough Exactly Thermo. But they can't get enough of kicking us when we're down. They'll pursue this until they get every ounce of blood out of us. We need to fight fire with fire like yourself and Copland Bear have said. If we take this lying down again then who knows what kind of outcome we'll be looking at. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Just seen the SFA issued a statement saying no further action to be taken against Rangers as it lies with HMRC, it doesn't breach sporting regulations - which is exactly what I said about 10 mins ago. I worked with HMRC doing debt management for years, businesses are beyond stupid, you need to give a certain amount of leeway to naivety and stupidity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thermopylae 15,286 Posted July 5, 2017 Author Share Posted July 5, 2017 11 minutes ago, Gaz52 said: Exactly Thermo. But they can't get enough of kicking us when we're down. They'll pursue this until they get every ounce of blood out of us. We need to fight fire with fire like yourself and Copland Bear have said. If we take this lying down again then who knows what kind of outcome we'll be looking at. Yes the whole mr nice guy bit has to top right now ... the board have to finally realise that our enemies won't stop kicking until we are stone dead indeed the more injured we get the more frenzied their attacks become Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band of Brothers 10,303 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 26 minutes ago, Copland bear said: They have just released a statement demanding us to be stripped of titles, time our board grew a set and set the record straight with their track record maybe they should report pedophiles to the police and not let them back in would be a starter. The gloves are off , over to the Rangers board, fight fire with fire and demand to know why the SFA did nothing at the time and are still doing nothing regarding the let a known ledophile back in the club after refusing to alert the police the first time . The board did say they new who wee enemy's wee and they would fight back at the right time. Well it's all out fucking war with those scummy bastards now. They are shameless scumbag bastards and a fucking embarrassment to have in our City. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountaineer 452 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Band of Brothers said: They are shameless scumbag bastards and a fucking embarrassment to have in our City. maybe if they want transparency then let's start with the paedo's that went unpunished in that shitehole of a club ,ffs the official photographer had thousands of pics of kids in various stages of indecency stored in a locker at the paedodome .shameless shower of bastards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Hurlock Loyal 12,133 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Of course they are, take a fckn look at the current establishment we have had overseeing this in the past decade. I'm not one for jumping on the paranoid Protestant bandwagon, but things are looking bleak for the club at the moment. I said at the time that this whole shambles will take about a decade to sort out, and sadly it's looking like I was right - perhaps even longer. If they decide to strip titles then as a club we should apply to exit Scotland and try our luck in England - if that is not feasible then we should simply refuse to compete in Scotland until we are offered a place. I'm that sick of this shit , that I would be done with football at the point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wullies_bowly_legs 3,779 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 The " at this time " will be them leaving an out in case the frenzy gets too much for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlands plater 16,958 Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 If the "establishment" is those who call the shots and set the agenda, politically and otherwise, they have been the establishment club for years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
72barca 1,788 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 What is it you are worried about? Since 2012 when they took their opportunistic chance to atttempt to kill us they have done F**k all. Liewell knows King can not be messed with in a court of law. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40delboy40 248 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Like to think that we're the rat catchers and when we do catch em drown them in a bucket of push. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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