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It was the pre-cursor for the Good Friday agreement. The first step. Without it we wouldn't have terrorists released from jail to walk the streets, while the Security forces are held accountable for the death of every IRA scumbag during the troubles..  

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I was here along with 250,000 others. Maggie wasn't a hero to us then..

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12 hours ago, Blue Blooded said:

She was a psychopath. I'd like to hear you refer to her as such if your father was put on the scrapheap with no job or self esteem or prospects so that the middle and upper class could add to their portfolios via the denationalisation of BP, British Rail, British Gas and numerous others. 
She did not give a single fuck for anyone other than herself and her cronies. She was ruthless, without compassion and is completely misunderstood bu idiots who actually think she put the country back on its feet. Without squandering the enormous revenues from North Sea oil and gas, she could never have got away with her policies. Granted British Rail in particular was a big loss maker, but it could have been turned around without handing billions to that cunt Branson. Same with the rest of the national treasures she sold off to finance her horrendous policies.

 

So because you disagreed with her policies that makes her a psychopath? :lol: this is why I don't like debating left wing nutters

Maybe you should realise you are not the most important person in the world, you're not really important at all you are insignificant, and there are plenty of people across the globe who have remarkably different political views than you do, instead of getting pissed off and calling folk psychopaths why don't you realize it's all part of democracy and do something to change it, like giving reasons why you are on the other side instead of calling folk cunts and psychos, it totally makes your side of the argument irrelevant and insults your own intelligence and everyone elses

This is the difference, between the left and the right in this country, the right lose an election and they get sad, the left lose and election and they get angry

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35 minutes ago, With Heart and Hand said:

So because you disagreed with her policies that makes her a psychopath? :lol: this is why I don't like debating left wing nutters

Maybe you should realise you are not the most important person in the world, you're not really important at all you are insignificant, and there are plenty of people across the globe who have remarkably different political views than you do, instead of getting pissed off and calling folk psychopaths why don't you realize it's all part of democracy and do something to change it, like giving reasons why you are on the other side instead of calling folk cunts and psychos, it totally makes your side of the argument irrelevant and insults your own intelligence and everyone elses

This is the difference, between the left and the right in this country, the right lose an election and they get sad, the left lose and election and they get angry

She was a psychopath because she did not care about the outcome of her policies. She displayed no empathy whatsoever. She was a crackpot. It mattered not a jot how many people's lives she ruined.

This is not a left v right thing for me, this is making sure that bitch is never revered publicly by the people of Britain. I would never myself vote Tory, but I have no such hatred for John Major, or David Cameron. I disagree with their politics, but that is all...she was different. She was a robot.

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1 hour ago, keithgersbear said:

She went to war and actually won a successful war, took on the PIRA and killed many of them, turned the country around. Great PM.

Went to war! lol. She went from being absolutely despised to being a hero for beating off a Latin American junta. The Argies done her the biggest favour possible, giving her the opportunity to 'lead' us in battle, lapped up by the pro Tory rags like the Mail and the Sun.

As for the IRA, well that was standard fare for all PMs from 69 onwards. She did nothing out of the ordinary on that front. 

Was Tony Blair a great PM for leading us into battle? 

The country would have turned around naturally. Monetarist policies were not the only policies capable of bringing inflation under control! That was all she cared about, inflation.

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12 minutes ago, Blue Blooded said:

Went to war! lol. She went from being absolutely despised to being a hero for beating off a Latin American junta. The Argies done her the biggest favour possible, giving her the opportunity to 'lead' us in battle, lapped up by the pro Tory rags like the Mail and the Sun.

As for the IRA, well that was standard fare for all PMs from 69 onwards. She did nothing out of the ordinary on that front. 

Was Tony Blair a great PM for leading us into battle? 

The country would have turned around naturally. Monetarist policies were not the only policies capable of bringing inflation under control! That was all she cared about, inflation.

I agree that the Falklands saved her politically, many at the time thought she allowed the Argies to invade by giving false signals, some might call it a clever manoeuvre. But she did draw the country up by its bootlaces and gave us back respect and prosperity, so in my book she's one of our better PM's.

Blair thought he could do the same in Iraq but it completely backfired on him.

Governments like a war now and then, especially one they can win, it takes folks minds off other things.

 

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1 hour ago, Blue Blooded said:

Went to war! lol. She went from being absolutely despised to being a hero for beating off a Latin American junta. The Argies done her the biggest favour possible, giving her the opportunity to 'lead' us in battle, lapped up by the pro Tory rags like the Mail and the Sun.

As for the IRA, well that was standard fare for all PMs from 69 onwards. She did nothing out of the ordinary on that front. 

Was Tony Blair a great PM for leading us into battle? 

The country would have turned around naturally. Monetarist policies were not the only policies capable of bringing inflation under control! That was all she cared about, inflation.

The country would not have turned around naturally under Labour policies. The country was a basket case. 

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4 hours ago, keithgersbear said:

The country would not have turned around naturally under Labour policies. The country was a basket case. 

Yes it would have. Our GDP when she came in was x, and by the year she left in 1990, it had gone up 236%. In the same time period, Italy, who were behind us when she took over, were ahead of us, and had increased their GDP by 299%.  France and Germany both pulled away in terms of GDP, but not in terms of percentages.

Don't tell me her she turned the country around. None of those other countries had monetarist policies, but in her 11 years, they still all out performed us! And she sold off all of the family silver, and the oil and gas, and came out with nothing the others didn't have.

France had a socialist government during this period,  None of those other major countries endured as high unemployment as the UK, so don't tell me tossing millions of people on the dole to reduce inflation, was the only method available, because it is clearly not.

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2 minutes ago, Blue Blooded said:

Yes it would have. Our GDP when she came in was x, and by the year she left in 1990, it had gone up 236%. In the same time period, Italy, who were behind us when she took over, were ahead of us, and had increased their GDP by 299%.  France and Germany both pulled away in terms of GDP, but not in terms of percentages.

Don't tell me her she turned the country around. None of those other countries had monetarist policies, but in her 11 years, they still all out performed us! And she sold off all of the family silver, and the oil and gas, and came out with nothing the others didn't have.

France had a socialist government during this period,  None of those other major countries endured as high unemployment as the UK, so don't tell me tossing millions of people on the dole to reduce inflation, was the only method available, because it is clearly not.

So a racist and a sexist. Fuck sake.

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Just now, Blue Blooded said:

:angrywillie:

What?

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22 hours ago, Blue Blooded said:

Yes it would have. Our GDP when she came in was x, and by the year she left in 1990, it had gone up 236%. In the same time period, Italy, who were behind us when she took over, were ahead of us, and had increased their GDP by 299%.  France and Germany both pulled away in terms of GDP, but not in terms of percentages.

Don't tell me her she turned the country around. None of those other countries had monetarist policies, but in her 11 years, they still all out performed us! And she sold off all of the family silver, and the oil and gas, and came out with nothing the others didn't have.

France had a socialist government during this period,  None of those other major countries endured as high unemployment as the UK, so don't tell me tossing millions of people on the dole to reduce inflation, was the only method available, because it is clearly not.

The Unions had far too much control, consistently bringing the country to a halt, Argentinian aggression, PIRA terrorists, economy in the gutter, you should look at the GDP growth since the war to when she left. You will see a huge rise from the mess she inherited. Manufacturing suffered but the complaints about the closing of the pits is more of an emotional argument as people lost jobs which is bad.

 

But the closing of the pits was inevitable. 

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11 minutes ago, keithgersbear said:

The Unions had far too much control, consistently bringing the country to a halt, Argentinian aggression, PIRA terrorists, economy in the gutter, you should look at the GDP growth since the war to when she left. You will see a huge rise from the mess she inherited. Manufacturing suffered but the complaints about the closing of the pits is more of an emotional argument as people lost jobs which is bad.

 

But the closing of the pits was inevitable. 

She took the tough decisions and deserves the title The Iron Lady.

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On ‎01‎/‎08‎/‎2017 at 2:37 PM, WMT said:

She gets lauded for standing up to the IRA and facing down the hunger strikers. If a British Prime Minister had done anything else at the time, it would've been political suicide (unlike the hunger strikers, which was just suicide!) If anything she was what you Scots call a "shitebag". If half of my cabinet had been blown up in an IRA bomb, I certainly would not be giving any say in part of the UK to a country which harbored the bastards, and refused to extradite them! I would've ordered border incursions to capture them!!

When you have a dispute with your employer, and find out the union is powerless to help you, when your kid goes on a waiting list for an op and you find out it will be months, thank her, the run down of the NHS started then. When you hear of investment bankers being awarded obscene bonuses, when you are paying exorbitant amounts of rent to a private landlord because there are no council houses, blame her, she sold them off.

 She started the "i'm alright, Jack" culture which prevails in Britain today.

 

Bang on mate. All points on the compass point to that bitch. She got personal with the miners, not that they were any angels, but she made all the working class of this country suffer because of them and now there are very very few left.

The country is now divided between a middle class and those below the poverty line. Too many forget from whence they came, sitting in suburbia, or with a bought council hoose kidding on they are living the dream and not two pennies to fucking rub together. Britain is awash with personal debt. In the last ten years I have never witnessed as many wage arrestments on employees and still rising.

She also done the dirty deal with Brussels to close down our shipbuilding and steel industries in return for grants to fill the hole she created by her failed policies.

She was without a conscience and bereft of morality.

You would need to be a fucking moron to believe the Tories are good for you. The only fucking friends they have is big business and no cunt else.

As for the Labour party, not the brightest bunch. They no longer know who or what the fuck they are.

We are a disenfranchised electorate, which is exactly where successive governments want us, both north and south of the border. They have invaded our very fucking living rooms with their nanny state laws and fucking rules. We will be having fucking designated oxygen areas next as they fucking tax it!

Democracy? You would need to be a fucking moron to believe that we truly live in one. That dream died long ago!  

 

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1 hour ago, Band of Brothers said:

She took the tough decisions and deserves the title The Iron Lady.

She took the fucking pish!

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Just now, Blue Avenger said:

She took the fucking pish!

She took no prisoners and had a backbone whats the drama?

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44 minutes ago, Blue Avenger said:

Bang on mate. All points on the compass point to that bitch. She got personal with the miners, not that they were any angels, but she made all the working class of this country suffer because of them and now there are very very few left.

The country is now divided between a middle class and those below the poverty line. Too many forget from whence they came, sitting in suburbia, or with a bought council hoose kidding on they are living the dream and not two pennies to fucking rub together. Britain is awash with personal debt. In the last ten years I have never witnessed as many wage arrestments on employees and still rising.

She also done the dirty deal with Brussels to close down our shipbuilding and steel industries in return for grants to fill the hole she created by her failed policies.

She was without a conscience and bereft of morality.

You would need to be a fucking moron to believe the Tories are good for you. The only fucking friends they have is big business and no cunt else.

As for the Labour party, not the brightest bunch. They no longer know who or what the fuck they are.

We are a disenfranchised electorate, which is exactly where successive governments want us, both north and south of the border. They have invaded our very fucking living rooms with their nanny state laws and fucking rules. We will be having fucking designated oxygen areas next as they fucking tax it!

Democracy? You would need to be a fucking moron to believe that we truly live in one. That dream died long ago!  

 

Precisely. She changed the face of this country for the worse, where greed is now king and fuck you if you fall by the wayside. Someone called her a psychopath earlier. As, by definition, a psychopath is someone unable to show empathy, I think she fitted the bill.

Ps. I forgot she also took the free milk from primary school kids, the only source of calcium etc some of them ever got.

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15 hours ago, Blue Avenger said:

She also done the dirty deal with Brussels to close down our shipbuilding and steel industries in return for grants to fill the hole she created by her failed policies.

Yet Labour had over 10 years in power and changed absolutely nothing that Thatcher done with manufacturing or the economy or the coal mines. The fundamental things she changed, they kept. Go figure. 

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On 01/08/2017 at 2:02 PM, Blue Blooded said:

She was a psychopath because she did not care about the outcome of her policies. She displayed no empathy whatsoever. She was a crackpot. It mattered not a jot how many people's lives she ruined.

This is not a left v right thing for me, this is making sure that bitch is never revered publicly by the people of Britain. I would never myself vote Tory, but I have no such hatred for John Major, or David Cameron. I disagree with their politics, but that is all...she was different. She was a robot.

Everything that's wrong with some people in this country. It reeks of cutting your nose off to spite your face. 'I would never vote Tory even if they were clearly the best party with the best policies only because their Tory'

its the same nonsense the SNP come out with, so singular and dogmatic in their approach that they do more harm than good. 

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The free milk went to 5p a carton in fairness, still heavily subsidised.

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I was a child when she left 10 Downing St so my opinion of her is just based on what I've read or documentaries I've watched

From what I can gather the Unions were practically holding the country to ransom, almost attempting to take control undemocratically  And instead of capitulating Thatcher stood up to them.

She stood up for Brits in the Falklands, it's pathetic how some so called Loyalists and Brits act like this is any different to issues closer to home like in Ulster. They are and were Brits who wished to remain British 

She stood up to the IRA and the hungerstrikers. Just because previous PMs had done the same doesn't take away from that unless your just trying to paint her in a bad light imo 

I don't much of an opinion on her, I was indifferent when she died but I was a bit disturbed by the reaction from some people, celebrating the death of an old lady who had a family. Lacking class to say the least.

I do think it's ridiculous that folk continue to blame her for current problems, It's the same as the SNP who after a decade in power still bang on about Westminster causing all our problems.

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If she's a psycho what is Blair? Fucked up whole Middle East,let every thief and rapist into the country,let eu walk all over us and let his wife make millions from human rights Pish. Maggie was a saint compared to that cunt and today would eat republican scum like corbyn and krankie for breakfast. The ordinary British worker only prospers under a Tory government,fuck all these spongers who have never worked a day in their lives yet feel they are owed a living,parasites all.

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On 8/2/2017 at 7:15 PM, keithgersbear said:

The Unions had far too much control, consistently bringing the country to a halt, Argentinian aggression, PIRA terrorists, economy in the gutter, you should look at the GDP growth since the war to when she left. You will see a huge rise from the mess she inherited. Manufacturing suffered but the complaints about the closing of the pits is more of an emotional argument as people lost jobs which is bad.

 

But the closing of the pits was inevitable. 

I will let it go mate. I disagree, but fair enough.

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10 hours ago, cp9 said:

Everything that's wrong with some people in this country. It reeks of cutting your nose off to spite your face. 'I would never vote Tory even if they were clearly the best party with the best policies only because their Tory'

its the same nonsense the SNP come out with, so singular and dogmatic in their approach that they do more harm than good. 

You couldn't be more wrong. It has nothing to do with cutting off my nose to spite my face, I fundamentally disagree with their  policies. I am not an out and out socialist, but yes, I am left of centre.
I could never vote for such selfish policies. I support people who support people.  

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