Guest Lloyd72 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, bluchoo said: It worked for them...after that incident Dorrans was poor and did nothing the reat if the gane None of them did anything after that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, Lloyd72 said: Fuck up No thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 3 hours ago, K.A.I said: Prepared to lower ourselves to taig standards calling refs cheats just to excuse bad management bad players looking lost. Sad day tbh. So we can't point that a Ref is at best incompetent and at worst allowing his judgement to be clouded because it s us. Because it's taig like. ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 2 hours ago, eejay the dj said: Great post mate .May even pass the safety check for those who don't like it sounding too "taig like " What ever the fuck that is This taig like pish that gets trotted out every time a Ref fucks us and we have the nerve to ask what the fuck is going on. Its fucking laughable from the usual crew on here. Any neutral watching that game yesterday must wonder what the fuck is going on in Scottish Football. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 hour ago, LaudrupsAsicsBoots said: I never said the ref wasn't biased. Well biased is a polite way of saying he's a cheating cunt. ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: So we can't point that a Ref is at best incompetent and at worst allowing his judgement to be clouded because it s us. Because it's taig like. ?? Unbelievable thing to take from what I'm saying. Not once have I said a ref like him yesterday having such a bad game shouldn't be accountable. He should be demoted for a few games. But saying he deliberately set out to get us or he's a cheat against us is taig like. There's no two ways about it. you are another like BlueAvenger who are usually good posters but are blinkered when it comes to giving Pedro any blame or criticism - yous would rather accuse a ref of being a cheat than give an honest assessment on him and the players failings So when we all said we had to win the first 4 games of the season no excuses, we didn't really mean it? I've praised Pedro in recent weeks because it's only fair after good results but I've not seen it be forthcoming the other way when it's merited for a bad result. I'll say again that ref was a prick and a poor poor ref but cheat? No . I'll save that talk for the tarriers (and laugh at them) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, Courtyard Bear said: This taig like pish that gets trotted out every time a Ref fucks us and we have the nerve to ask what the fuck is going on. Its fucking laughable from the usual crew on here. Any neutral watching that game yesterday must wonder what the fuck is going on in Scottish Football. It had to be seen to be believed mate . First 20mins . I could see what was coming . If we had scored a second . It would never of happened . The ref would probably even have given us some decisions . As soon as they scored .The cards started coming out giving them every advantage Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sket 13,610 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Embarrassing thread Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, K.A.I said: Unbelievable thing to take from what I'm saying. Not once have I said a ref like him yesterday having such a bad game shouldn't be accountable. He should be demoted for a few games. But saying he deliberately set out to get us or he's a cheat against us is taig like. There's no two ways about it. you are another like BlueAvenger who are usually good posters but are blinkered when it comes to giving Pedro any blame or criticism - yous would rather accuse a ref of being a cheat than give an honest assessment on him and the players failings So when we all said we had to win the first 4 games of the season no excuses, we didn't really mean it? I've praised Pedro in recent weeks because it's only fair after good results but I've not seen it be forthcoming the other way when it's merited for a bad result. I'll say again that ref was a prick and a poor poor ref but cheat? No . I'll save that talk for the tarriers (and laugh at them) So why would he be demoted if no one from the club raises it with the SFA?? Amd if we do that it's taig like, so I'm not sure where you expect us to go with this. Did Pedro make mistakes after Jack got sent, of course he did. Miller should've been straight off for a midfielder. After halftime I could understand the formation he sent out but again he sent the wrong players out to do it Miller and Windass shouldn't have come back out. So yes we made mistakes but if the biased Ref (biased decisions = cheating) had called the game properly we will ukdnt be having this discussion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sket 13,610 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 So many cunts on here with their head up their arse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, Courtyard Bear said: So why would he be demoted if no one from the club raises it with the SFA?? Amd if we do that it's taig like, so I'm not sure where you expect us to go with this. Did Pedro make mistakes after Jack got sent, of course he did. Miller should've been straight off for a midfielder. After halftime I could understand the formation he sent out but again he sent the wrong players out to do it Miller and Windass shouldn't have come back out. So yes we made mistakes but if the biased Ref (biased decisions = cheating) had called the game properly we will ukdnt be having this discussion. Does a club have to make a complaint before they can consider demoting a referee? Is that how the process works? I don't know that's how I'm asking. Im not comfortable with the club going after referees because he wrongly sent our player off and we got beat. It doesn't sit right with me and is something we've slagged the taigs for for years. if this one ref has a list of things and blatantly bad decisions against us like yesterday then I'd change my mind but not after yesterday alone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Sket said: Embarrassing thread Who gives a fuck what you think Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, Courtyard Bear said: So why would he be demoted if no one from the club raises it with the SFA?? Amd if we do that it's taig like, so I'm not sure where you expect us to go with this. Did Pedro make mistakes after Jack got sent, of course he did. Miller should've been straight off for a midfielder. After halftime I could understand the formation he sent out but again he sent the wrong players out to do it Miller and Windass shouldn't have come back out. So yes we made mistakes but if the biased Ref (biased decisions = cheating) had called the game properly we will ukdnt be having this discussion. I agree, Morelos was a threat so he should have stayed on; so it would have had to be Miller off and Rossiter on surely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sket 13,610 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: Who gives a fuck what you think Put your tampon back in ya fucking blouse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 This twitter captures all the incidents. https://twitter.com/tagsbo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, Turnberry18 said: I agree, Morelos was a threat so he should have stayed on; so it would have had to be Miller off and Rossiter on surely. What would Rossiter have done yesterday? We needed an injection of tempo and someone energetic and fit enough to burst a gut in midfield to try and rally - Rossiter would have been nice and calm and done a Hemdani while Ibrox is screaming at him. Under yesterday's circumstances Miller was still a better option dropping into midfield than Rossiter for what we needed to do and that's saying something Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 13,835 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Does a club have to make a complaint before they can consider demoting a referee? Is that how the process works? I don't know that's how I'm asking. Im not comfortable with the club going after referees because he wrongly sent our player off and we got beat. It doesn't sit right with me and is something we've slagged the taigs for for years. if this one ref has a list of things and blatantly bad decisions against us like yesterday then I'd change my mind but not after yesterday alone. For me, when you see what referee gets the game, you tend to have an idea if we are going to get decisions or not. Beaton is one of those refs. For me, he consistently gives baffling decisions against us,and is very inconsistent. Going back a bit,when you saw the ref was Hugh Dallas or Jim McCluskey, you knew that yep they may get the odd decision wrong,but they were balanced and by and large got the big decisions right. Refs are meant to be reviewed by an independent panel,and I don't see there being anything wrong with the club asking for a review. There is also an argument for Scottish referees to be made full time,as it may pull the standards up,rather than having these guys work part time as they do now. Beaton is either a terrible referee,or really has a bee in his bonnet with us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 13,835 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Turnberry18 said: I agree, Morelos was a threat so he should have stayed on; so it would have had to be Miller off and Rossiter on surely. I think he would have sent Morelos off if he had stayed on. Seemed to be having words after every challenge Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnberry18 3,204 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, K.A.I said: What would Rossiter have done yesterday? We needed an injection of tempo and someone energetic and fit enough to burst a gut in midfield to try and rally - Rossiter would have been nice and calm and done a Hemdani while Ibrox is screaming at him. Under yesterday's circumstances Miller was still a better option dropping into midfield than Rossiter for what we needed to do and that's saying something In terms of midfield Dorrans may have had a better game. I take you point though, because Miller wasn't too bad, but at 1-1 we may have had a better chance with a more solid midfield. I'm willing to speculate that it was the best decision to keep Miller on though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC Eagle 4,888 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, K.A.I said: Does a club have to make a complaint before they can consider demoting a referee? Is that how the process works? I don't know that's how I'm asking. Im not comfortable with the club going after referees because he wrongly sent our player off and we got beat. It doesn't sit right with me and is something we've slagged the taigs for for years. if this one ref has a list of things and blatantly bad decisions against us like yesterday then I'd change my mind but not after yesterday alone. They can demote a ref without a complaint but I doubt the assessor will, even if we do, justifiably, complain. Beaton hasn't just been 'poor' in the oppositions favour in one game. This is by no means the first ocassion when he has favoured Rangers opponents. That nothing will be done about it is symptomatic of the deeper issues with Scottish football. Not a single official or administrator at the SFA or SPFL is 'fit for purpose' including the referees and their assessors. Utter incimpetents and amateurs are running the game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Sket said: Put your tampon back in ya fucking blouse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, K.A.I said: Does a club have to make a complaint before they can consider demoting a referee? Is that how the process works? I don't know that's how I'm asking. Im not comfortable with the club going after referees because he wrongly sent our player off and we got beat. It doesn't sit right with me and is something we've slagged the taigs for for years. if this one ref has a list of things and blatantly bad decisions against us like yesterday then I'd change my mind but not after yesterday alone. Why would the SFA demote him, they probably think he did a great job. So I would think that's the only way to at least get a Ref looked at. I hear a lot on here that he didn't cheat but his decisions were definitely biased. Well if a Ref is making biased decisions then I'm sorry but that's cheating. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, Negri's lovechild said: For me, when you see what referee gets the game, you tend to have an idea if we are going to get decisions or not. Beaton is one of those refs. For me, he consistently gives baffling decisions against us,and is very inconsistent. Going back a bit,when you saw the ref was Hugh Dallas or Jim McCluskey, you knew that yep they may get the odd decision wrong,but they were balanced and by and large got the big decisions right. Refs are meant to be reviewed by an independent panel,and I don't see there being anything wrong with the club asking for a review. There is also an argument for Scottish referees to be made full time,as it may pull the standards up,rather than having these guys work part time as they do now. Beaton is either a terrible referee,or really has a bee in his bonnet with us. Beaton is a terrible referee agreed but I've not found him better or worse than the rest personally. Im not saying you but I think some people see what they want to see like taking yesterday's ridiculous decision from him, then go back and think of other instances and piece it all together and create a bias or cheat narrative instead of being a bit more honest with the real problems closer to home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Turnberry18 said: I agree, Morelos was a threat so he should have stayed on; so it would have had to be Miller off and Rossiter on surely. You would have thought so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.A.I 36,183 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Just now, Courtyard Bear said: Why would the SFA demote him, they probably think he did a great job. So I would think that's the only way to at least get a Ref looked at. I hear a lot on here that he didn't cheat but his decisions were definitely biased. Well if a Ref is making biased decisions then I'm sorry but that's cheating. Biased / cheat is the same thing agreed with that one, to me is a mild form of favouritism and the other is a blatant form but I am still going with the downright incompetent line of thought Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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