TMB 14,167 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Aye, it shouldn't have been a sending off. but... We should still be able to muster a lot more than that performance. Each time our defence won the ball back we high punted it up the park and gave possession straight back to Hibs. Is this why Herrera was brought in? Are we going to punt it front to back as a tactic? That's not a Rangers team I want to watch. We're badly lacking quality in the middle of the park. We've gone in to this season with Windass and Miller still running around in there and that's a sacking offence in my opinion. We were powder puff in midfield last season, and we were powder puff again today. We need a big commanding CM who can put his foot on the ball and boss games. We also need a creative wide player who can occupy that left-side and attack with real purpose. Say what you will about Kranjcar but at least he attempts to play football instead of hoofing the ball all over the fucking park and I would say we missed him today. Pedro had to go in to this season and start winning consistently. He's failed to do that. To get outplayed at Ibrox in the manner we did today was totally embarrassing. I think that's up there with the 5-1 gubbing we got from Celtic. We were dominated by a newly promoted team. We actually paid McGregor off a few years back and replaced him with Kiernan. Our club is a complete, and utter, circus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazy74 57 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: Aye, it shouldn't have been a sending off. but... We should still be able to muster a lot more than that performance. Each time our defence won the ball back we high punted it up the park and gave possession straight back to Hibs. Is this why Herrera was brought in? Are we going to punt it front to back as a tactic? That's not a Rangers team I want to watch. We're badly lacking quality in the middle of the park. We've gone in to this season with Windass and Miller still running around in there and that's a sacking offence in my opinion. We were powder puff in midfield last season, and we were powder puff again today. We need a big commanding CM who can put his foot on the ball and boss games. We also need a creative wide player who can occupy that left-side and attack with real purpose. Say what you will about Kranjcar but at least he attempts to play football instead of hoofing the ball all over the fucking park and I would say we missed him today. Pedro had to go in to this season and start winning consistently. He's failed to do that. To get outplayed at Ibrox in the manner we did today was totally embarrassing. I think that's up there with the 5-1 gubbing we got from Celtic. We were dominated by a newly promoted team. We actually paid McGregor off a few years back and replaced him with Kiernan. Our club is a complete, and utter, circus. Yup ..damn straight . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Blue 9,349 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I get what you're saying mate but you can't blame the midfield today when they were being totally bypassed with the shitey second half tactics. You don't know if there were injuries at half time but I'd have kept the same wide men and brought Rossiter (or maybe Niko at a push) to shore up the midfield again and leave Morelos up top and taken Miller off. You then get the wide men to flood forward and Dorrans to push on because Rossiter is playing in Jack's position (who had cruised the first 20mins himself). We looked so disjointed in the second half, I'm afraid 3-2 flattered us as they were rarely troubled. As for McGregor, he is crap and we're well shot of him and Ambrose is just as bad. However, our tactics made them have a comfortable second half. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazy74 57 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Just now, Mazy74 said: Yup ..damn straight . Pedro shoulda been axed at the 1-5 game ...hes a fuckin clown . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMexican 204 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 How many threads do we need Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaysideBear 47 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Disgusting allowing they spoon burners leave Ibrox with 3 points. Fucking feel physically ill. Complete joke of a referee aye, but no fight or bottle. I grew up watching Rangers scoring early, grabbing diddy teams like this by the fucking jugular and not letting go till they were ready to get the bus home to where they belong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Proddy 609 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 League is done None of the other tinpot clubs in the league have any intention of beating Celtic. We've been fucked over by a fenian bastard ref. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alves70 393 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 3-4-2 is daft when your a man and goal down. Should have went with the 4-4-1 keep your two banks of four and played on the counter attack. Herrera up top with 10 men was never going to work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 11 minutes ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: Aye, it shouldn't have been a sending off. but... We should still be able to muster a lot more than that performance. Each time our defence won the ball back we high punted it up the park and gave possession straight back to Hibs. Is this why Herrera was brought in? Are we going to punt it front to back as a tactic? That's not a Rangers team I want to watch. We're badly lacking quality in the middle of the park. We've gone in to this season with Windass and Miller still running around in there and that's a sacking offence in my opinion. We were powder puff in midfield last season, and we were powder puff again today. We need a big commanding CM who can put his foot on the ball and boss games. We also need a creative wide player who can occupy that left-side and attack with real purpose. Say what you will about Kranjcar but at least he attempts to play football instead of hoofing the ball all over the fucking park and I would say we missed him today. Pedro had to go in to this season and start winning consistently. He's failed to do that. To get outplayed at Ibrox in the manner we did today was totally embarrassing. I think that's up there with the 5-1 gubbing we got from Celtic. We were dominated by a newly promoted team. We actually paid McGregor off a few years back and replaced him with Kiernan. Our club is a complete, and utter, circus. Agree with lots of what you say . We were down to 10 men however Although his half time substitutions were unbelievable Pena coming on at all was just un fucking believable . I hate to say it . At 3-1 it was going on 5 because of Pedro's rank bad decision making . We have now lost home games in humiliating fashion versus Scum , Sheep and Hivs in consecutive big games You just can not get away from that . No matter how much I like certain things about him at this moment Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 11 minutes ago, Alves70 said: 3-4-2 is daft when your a man and goal down. Should have went with the 4-4-1 keep your two banks of four and played on the counter attack. Herrera up top with 10 men was never going to work. Pedro was Bonkers . Especially as Herrera will never be a player that wins games for us . Never Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal Bear 72 363 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 20 minutes ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: Pedro had to go in to this season and start winning consistently. He's failed to do that. To get outplayed at Ibrox in the manner we did today was totally embarrassing. I think that's up there with the 5-1 gubbing we got from Celtic. We were dominated by a newly promoted team. We actually paid McGregor off a few years back and replaced him with Kiernan. Our club is a complete, and utter, circus. Up there with the 5-1 game? That's nonsense mate. It's nowhere near it. We were beat 3-2 and played most of the game a man down. I'd also say that although they are newly promoted they do have one of the stronger squads in the league and will probably finish in the top 4 or 5 this season. They will also raise their game for us every time we play them so we will always find it more difficult playing them than other teams will. I realise that for us to have a successful season we need to be beating Hibs and Aberdeen but decisions definitely went against us today and it could possibly have turned out differently. So, I think we have to give the manager and team the benefit of the doubt on this occasion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, Iron Proddy said: League is done None of the other tinpot clubs in the league have any intention of beating Celtic. We've been fucked over by a fenian bastard ref. I know you will be shouted down by the usual retards . "That is beggar patter these guys will say" " fuck that " they will say . But you are 100 % correct . He has previous . Never once have we won a game off a controversial decision with him though . Dallas , McCurrie , McDonald were all hunted out of the game . I always said . No they don't have the refs. After the strike . Certain things changed and certain refs were fast tracked . These same refs are getting the big games now . We are not going to win close games with these sort of refs . We are going to have to be much better against the opposition . Or we will have many days like today Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alves70 393 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, eejay the dj said: Bonkers . Especially as he will never be a player that wins games for us . Never Herrera is the type of player who wins the ball in the air for the secondary striker/midfielder to feed off it. Down to ten the gap between midfield and attack was too much for that kind of tactic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Alves70 said: Herrera is the type of player who wins the ball in the air for the secondary striker/midfielder to feed off it. Down to ten the gap between midfield and attack was too much for that kind of tactic. I meant Pedro mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NornIronBear 450 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Miller seems to be undroppable. He misses too many chances and looses the ball to many times to be a starter. He's been a great servant but he's not the answer. We are dragging our heels over Walker and I'm even starting to think get Naishame signed. We can't have another embarrassment like last season where the league is over by November. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven33jackie 1,920 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 41 minutes ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: Aye, it shouldn't have been a sending off. but... We should still be able to muster a lot more than that performance. Each time our defence won the ball back we high punted it up the park and gave possession straight back to Hibs. Is this why Herrera was brought in? Are we going to punt it front to back as a tactic? That's not a Rangers team I want to watch. We're badly lacking quality in the middle of the park. We've gone in to this season with Windass and Miller still running around in there and that's a sacking offence in my opinion. We were powder puff in midfield last season, and we were powder puff again today. We need a big commanding CM who can put his foot on the ball and boss games. We also need a creative wide player who can occupy that left-side and attack with real purpose. Say what you will about Kranjcar but at least he attempts to play football instead of hoofing the ball all over the fucking park and I would say we missed him today. Pedro had to go in to this season and start winning consistently. He's failed to do that. To get outplayed at Ibrox in the manner we did today was totally embarrassing. I think that's up there with the 5-1 gubbing we got from Celtic. We were dominated by a newly promoted team. We actually paid McGregor off a few years back and replaced him with Kiernan. Our club is a complete, and utter, circus. Pena instead of Kranjkar baffles me, keeping Miller on instead of Rossiter in midfield baffles me even more. Last season I was confused by Pedro now I am baffled. I am not sure if this is step forward but the results and performances feel really similar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, steven33jackie said: Pena instead of Kranjkar baffles me, keeping Miller on instead of Rossiter in midfield baffles me even more. Last season I was confused by Pedro now I am baffled. I am not sure if this is step forward but the results and performances feel really similar. We have Kenny Miller running around in midfield like a headless chicken. We need an actual footballer in there that knows the role and can pass it around. Jack can be that man but after the sending off we should've brought in another CM, not put Kenny in there. Windass and Miller are good athletes with plenty of running in them but they haven't got enough ability on the ball to occupy our midfield. Pedro's signed two good CBs and I do think Dorrans and Jack will give us a tougher midfield. However, without more attacking quality in the wider areas and up front we'll struggle and just start punting it long like we did today. If we don't sign more attacking quality before the window closes we're fucked. Hibs seem to have better players than us midfield to front and that's ridiculous. They've turned their squad round in one summer and now look like they can compete for second. They were passing it around in the middle and pressing us high up the pitch no problem at all. Other teams are progressing while we remain either stagnant or move backwards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven33jackie 1,920 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 36 minutes ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: We have Kenny Miller running around in midfield like a headless chicken. We need an actual footballer in there that knows the role and can pass it around. Jack can be that man but after the sending off we should've brought in another CM, not put Kenny in there. Windass and Miller are good athletes with plenty of running in them but they haven't got enough ability on the ball to occupy our midfield. Pedro's signed two good CBs and I do think Dorrans and Jack will give us a tougher midfield. However, without more attacking quality in the wider areas and up front we'll struggle and just start punting it long like we did today. If we don't sign more attacking quality before the window closes we're fucked. Hibs seem to have better players than us midfield to front and that's ridiculous. They've turned their squad round in one summer and now look like they can compete for second. They were passing it around in the middle and pressing us high up the pitch no problem at all. Other teams are progressing while we remain either stagnant or move backwards. That's the point I am making, Pedro continuously picks players and formations that you cannot see any logic too. He played Rossiter beside Dorrans midweek so for me it would seem logical to then go one up top and keep your midfield four in place. But he waits and we lose a goal before halftime which means you are coming out to chase the game. To then further compound a poor decision he brings on Pena, who apparently is on a separate fitness regime in order to bring him up to the same level of fitness as the rest of the squad. He then leaves Kranjkar and Rossiter on the bench who both have had full pre season training !! as I said baffled... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
standup 829 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Amazing how we can recruit duff managers so consistantly. As if its deliberate. And how we consistantly take any pressure away from the bheast and replace with a right good laugh. As if its deliberate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Heart and Hand 8,949 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Yup. The sending off was a blow but we should be better than that and it's not an excuse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulboy 2,518 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 They were not bossing the game before Jack got sent off they were just starting to get a foothold in it. After the red card it was a different story but how many folk are seeing it as they were dominant team the whole game is beyond belief must have been watching a different game to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boaby Bear 411 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 hour ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: We have Kenny Miller running around in midfield like a headless chicken. We need an actual footballer in there that knows the role and can pass it around. Jack can be that man but after the sending off we should've brought in another CM, not put Kenny in there. Windass and Miller are good athletes with plenty of running in them but they haven't got enough ability on the ball to occupy our midfield. Pedro's signed two good CBs and I do think Dorrans and Jack will give us a tougher midfield. However, without more attacking quality in the wider areas and up front we'll struggle and just start punting it long like we did today. If we don't sign more attacking quality before the window closes we're fucked. Hibs seem to have better players than us midfield to front and that's ridiculous. They've turned their squad round in one summer and now look like they can compete for second. They were passing it around in the middle and pressing us high up the pitch no problem at all. Other teams are progressing while we remain either stagnant or move backwards. They signed a manager who knows the scottish game inside out, thats why McInnes should have been our manager no two ways about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 A player who can link midfield and attack is needed badly. A Naismith type player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz52 11,837 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, soulboy said: They were not bossing the game before Jack got sent off they were just starting to get a foothold in it. After the red card it was a different story but how many folk are seeing it as they were dominant team the whole game is beyond belief must have been watching a different game to me. The same people seem to be saying Herrera didn't win a single aerial battle when in reality he won most but didn't have anyone running in behind playing off him. Some people just don't understand the game Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philiprfc 1,799 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Gaz52 said: A player who can link midfield and attack is needed badly. A Naismith type player. Windass has been that player recently but he was absent today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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