rblair92 28 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Not writing anything off yet. Think we're definitely an improved team on last year and I have no doubt that over the course of a full season we'll put Hibs and teams like them back in their place. But so far this season we haven't handled it well when we've come under pressure. We've started every game well and turned Dunfermline over because they offered absolutely nothing. But that's not going to happen in the league. There will be spells of games when the opposition put us under pressure. We should be able to deal with that and come out on top but we didn't do that today and we struggled against Motherwell. Decisions will go against us again as well but we need to react better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
William McBeath 2,154 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Never wanted Pedro and don't understand his appointment but there is little point in crucifying the guy this early especially after a game the referee ruined. Lets see where we are at in 3 months. Not much else we can do this early in the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW. 5,631 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 If John Beaton wasn't the ref today we win that game, convincingly. For most the first half Hibs were fuckin all over the place, their players were crumbling under the noise of Ibrox. Stokes should of been sent off and the game would of been done. Never been so fuckin ragin at a referee. Embarrassment of a performance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Heart and Hand 8,949 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Negri's lovechild said: Spot on. It was a complete odds changer that sending off. I've no doubts at all we would have won that game had the sending off not happened The sending off doesn't excuse us just giving up then and there which we did. The sending off was a factor but not the cause of our defeat Why do folk think everything has to be black and white? The ref fucked us today but so did our players Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 We look all over the place at times even in the game against Dunfermline we were wide open they just didnt have the players to finish their chances. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW. 5,631 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I'm not worried about our team at all, its much better than last seasons and yet its still very early days for this squad. They are still gelling, building partnerships, settling in but the signs are there that theres a lot of potential in the squad. Choking for this Hearts game where we will pump them if Beaton isn't the ref. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,602 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Bears r us said: You are a great optimist Gaz and that is good, but I started to get concerned today before they made it 1 - 1 we were starting to play poorly before they scored. The referee was a total joke and he did change the game IMO, but I am still worried about a game lost at home so early against these wankers. It has been a bad day football wise for us, time will tell if we can turn it around, again. We hit the post just before they made it 1-1 then Jack got sent off both things gave them the momentum. 10 men for about 60mins of the game I think the team done ok. Put it this way at 3-1 down last years mob would of chucked it that gives me hope going forward Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenerife Bear 1,748 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Kennys effort for the shot which hit the post was pathetic and half hearted. A proper striker would have smashed it in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFM 3,809 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, Terry Hurlock Loyal said: Why not?? He is a total imposter and the sooner he is gone the better. Of course, you probably would be happy to allow him to plumb to new depths this season, what will it take for people to cop on?? Another 5 nil from celtic, or perhaps getting scudded at Ibrox by aberdeen again. Maybe , a KO in the cup by Thistle?? With Pedro, anything is possible. Just blame the woodwork/referee etc. Eh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 20 minutes ago, Gaz52 said: I knew the reaction on here would be this dramatic, there's far too much "I told you so" going on about Pedro, because we lost a game that if we're being honest, dominated until we got wrongly reduced to 10 men. The pendulum swung and the momentum was with opponents after that, plenty of teams would have lost in the same position. I'm not going to make excuses for that second half performance though, that was dreadful, but a sense of injustice and a team consisting of Kenny Miller as centre-mid and a target man winning headers just for no-one to run on to them? What chance did we have really? Dorrans had an off day but we know he's a good player, losing Jack just ruined the entire game plan which was working. Before their equaliser, Miller hits the post, if that goes in then the game is won, the sending off doesn't happen. Yet I'm reading RANGERS fans giving up on the season already and spitting utter shite about the manager and team. I'm not giving up the season yet, there's a team in there, the signs are there to see, we need a couple of quality signings added. The players will learn from today like they learned from Progres, don't write everything off yet. He didn't have an off day. He was having to do literally everything in the middle of the park because after Jack went off he had Kenny Miller in beside him running about like a headless chicken and then Pena who is still trying to find his feet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWAC 2,234 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: Still a defensive mess. Still too weak in midfield. Still starting a 37 yr old because his signings aren't fit/ shite. But aye, width of a post annat. Fullbacks are fucked every time, leave loads of space, don't track back and shite in the tackle, then outnumbered. A couple of clearances today from tav were brutal. Wallace is better than Hodson but we're very weak at fullback all round. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooblue 1,969 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 minute ago, PRW. said: If John Beaton wasn't the ref today we win that game, convincingly. For most the first half Hibs were fuckin all over the place, their players were crumbling under the noise of Ibrox. Stokes should of been sent off and the game would of been done. Never been so fuckin ragin at a referee. Embarrassment of a performance. The problem is that if Beaton hadn't been the ref it would just have been one of the other incompetent amateur numpties. There's not a decent, competent, professional in the refereeing ranks in Scotland. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,602 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Knew this would of been the reaction tonight so many just waiting for a slip up to put the boot in to the manager Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,790 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 minute ago, KingKirk said: We hit the post just before they made it 1-1 then Jack got sent off both things gave them the momentum. 10 men for about 60mins of the game I think the team done ok. Put it this way at 3-1 down last years mob would of chucked it that gives me hope going forward I seen this a lot last week after Motherwell game, "Warburtons team wouldn't have fought back like that' etc etc. To counter that, Warburtons team never lost at home to Hibs or Aberdeen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negri's lovechild 13,822 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, With Heart and Hand said: The sending off doesn't excuse us just giving up then and there which we did. The sending off was a factor but not the cause of our defeat Why do folk think everything has to be black and white? The ref fucked us today but so did our players Thing for me is that it swings the momentum of the game when poor decisions like that are made. They get a morale boost, realise they can leave that foot in,be more physical. Its a natural reaction for confusion and anger to set in for a period of time after that. If we had made it to half time level then you never know. Some of the players stepped up and some did not. I thought Morelos and Tav tried their best Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geronimoo 1,474 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, With Heart and Hand said: We are a support that goes from one extreme to another. We're either world beaters or we are the worst team on Earth A fair description of us as a team is, imo, Pish. We are shite and need a hell of a lot of work, I personally have never believed Pedro was the man to take us back to the CL etc but at the same time I'm not writing him off, there's a ways to go The start of the game today was very encouraging, but, regardless of the refs shite decision, we gave up and capitulated which isn't encouraging in the slightest There will be plenty of times this season when we are down and need to fight back and we didn't show any signs that we were capable of that today No we are a support who are made up of realist and the other set who think winning pointless friendlies against teams who aren't trying, make up stupid songs, think duds are world beaters and give them names like King Kenny. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JukeBoxJohn 3,060 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Wake the fuck up OP. Our manager is just as incompetent as the referee. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,602 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Just now, STEPPS BOY said: I seen this a lot last week after Motherwell game, "Warburtons team wouldn't have fought back like that' etc etc. To counter that, Warburtons team never lost at home to Hibs or Aberdeen. Hibs correct sheep incorrect his team lost v sheep at Ibrox. A team under him loose that 4/5/6 the day.. We should of got a point today not bad considering we were down to 10 for a hour Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEPPS BOY 73,790 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Just now, KingKirk said: Hibs correct sheep incorrect his team lost v sheep at Ibrox. A team under him loose that 4/5/6 the day.. We should of got a point today not bad considering we were down to 10 for a hour Warburton wasn't manager when we lost to Aberdeen Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan's Lager 30,493 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I've been really critical of Pedro on here and still think he should have been sacked after the Niederkorn game. But I actually think the second half tactics were quite good from him. Theres no point having players charging around getting into 50/50s when you are a man down. You will tire the team out too quickly, create huge gaps, and when enough of our players are already on yellows you're likely to end up with 9. Only problem is sitting back and trying to hit then on the counter bypassing the midfield gets the fans offside quickly in the UK. We played very patiently and created enough chances to get at least a draw. I think the biggest problem was how we reacted after Tav and Stokes were booked. We were all over them and had them on the ropes. But we took the foot off their throats and let them into it. I saw a lot more fight from the team off the ball. I can't imagine the team last year getting involved in two dust ups like today, which for me is a good sign. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtyard Bear 41,357 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Any Bears going tonto after today, is delusional. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrawfordRfc 110 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 It's too early to be despairing quite yet. Lets just back back the manager and back the players we have. Lets just support the team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears r us 30,770 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, KingKirk said: We hit the post just before they made it 1-1 then Jack got sent off both things gave them the momentum. 10 men for about 60mins of the game I think the team done ok. Put it this way at 3-1 down last years mob would of chucked it that gives me hope going forward I must admit I was not sure what happened with the chance that hit the post (SE3 is a little bit away to see things like that sometimes) and I agree if we had scored it would have made a difference, but the way they scored to make it 1-1 was too easy for me and we seemed to be losing the ball and they were coming into the game. I will certainly agree that the sending off was a game changer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKirk 25,602 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, STEPPS BOY said: Warburton wasn't manager when we lost to Aberdeen Warburton team. I don't hold that against the manager. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eejay the dj 31,964 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Seems at least this shower describe him pretty well Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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