Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Frank Harrison said: If people wanted to join they would join wherever they were located. Self fulfilling wanting to improve the atmosphere, something that benefits us all. Nae bother. It's 100% self fulfilling. The question has been raised to benefit their group first and foremost. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monk 3,207 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Can`t help but look at this and think how amazing it would look Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 15 minutes ago, PRW. said: Wit? They're pushing it because the whole reason the Union Bears exist is to make Rangers games a better atmosphere. Safe standing would be a massive step forward. To make them more important gees peace. Yes firstly to allow them to be part of that. If it's an open request then all season ticket holders should be asked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGOH 2,344 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I sit in CF4 and would be more than happy to give up my seat to accommodate safe standing - as long as a get a good seat in return The UB are the ones pushing it and are the most influential in making it happen - only right they get it as a group imo. If the entire CF is turned into Safe Standing - most who would like to be there will be surely? Mr Soprano 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smell the hotdog 4,015 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 How much is this likely to cost? Would we rather it going into the team or safe standing? No point being better atmosphere if we are still miles behind the taigs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,548 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: See to be fair, I kind of understand his point, although put across badly. If there's a safe standing section in the CF, it should be balloted for anyone that has a season book in that area, or at Ibrox in general (depending on timescales). It shouldn't be a case of fill it with UBs initially, and ballot off the rest, for example. It's not a dig / criticism of the UBs and appreciate they are the driving force for it. Season tickets holders have to be treated equally IMO. There isn't enough UB for them to anywhere near fill it. 3 or 4 rows at most. 12 minutes ago, bigsasasfloopyhair said: It's 100% self fulfilling. The question has been raised to benefit their group first and foremost. And you know this how? Mr Soprano 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Heart and Hand 8,949 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 28 minutes ago, PRW. said: Right now in Scotland the permit granted for safe standing doesn't allow for any extra. But it can potentially go up to 1.8. It won't tho In all likelihood the capacity will decrease in in whatever section they put it in Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Heart and Hand 8,949 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Paisleybear1872, denya and NetherburnBear 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 20 minutes ago, Frank Harrison said: There isn't enough UB for them to anywhere near fill it. 3 or 4 rows at most. And you know this how? It's my opinion. You saying you know better like? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,548 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 minute ago, bigsasasfloopyhair said: It's my opinion. You saying you know better like? Well given this would benefit the wider Rangers support more than it would them I'd say I'm correct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebooler 4,509 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 35 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: See to be fair, I kind of understand his point, although put across badly. If there's a safe standing section in the CF, it should be balloted for anyone that has a season book in that area, or at Ibrox in general (depending on timescales). It shouldn't be a case of fill it with UBs initially, and ballot off the rest, for example. It's not a dig / criticism of the UBs and appreciate they are the driving force for it. Season tickets holders have to be treated equally IMO. I made this point earlier - What happens if everybody in CF says "Fuck it. I'll just stay here and stand". Where do UB's go then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Shaw 30,464 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, Frank Harrison said: There isn't enough UB for them to anywhere near fill it. 3 or 4 rows at most. I would like to think that other season ticket holders in BF1 who are not members but have stood beside the UB for years would have the chance to move with the group, I would be gutted if me and my boy were left behind.. Fuck this sitting down at the fibaw with some happy clappy cunt behind giving you a tap on the shoulder every time you stand up. Got my tickets in BF1 because it's the singing section and I could stand for 90 minutes, if the singing section gets moved I expect to get moved with it. Paisleybear1872, The Specky Forum Organiser and PRW. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Just now, Frank Harrison said: Well given this would benefit the wider Rangers support more than it would them I'd say I'm correct. Not at all. I'd bet when negotiations start the UB start getting all arses with demands. That's not in the interest of the wider fan base. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, thebooler said: I made this point earlier - What happens if everybody in CF says "Fuck it. I'll just stay here and stand". Where do UB's go then? Spot on booler and only way around it is to consult all fans. ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,548 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 minute ago, bigsasasfloopyhair said: Not at all. I'd bet when negotiations start the UB start getting all arses with demands. That's not in the interest of the wider fan base. You're making assumptions based on absolutely nothing. I think you are seriously over estimating the importance of the UB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,548 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, thebooler said: I made this point earlier - What happens if everybody in CF says "Fuck it. I'll just stay here and stand". Where do UB's go then? Well in that case they'd have no choice but to not get in, that is very, very unlikely to happen though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Frank Harrison said: You're making assumptions based on absolutely nothing. I think you are seriously over estimating the importance of the UB. No I'm over estimating how important they think they are. Just because you ask for it doesn't mean you are the one to get it because you don't like where you currently are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,548 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, bigsasasfloopyhair said: No I'm over estimating how important they think they are. Just because you ask for it doesn't mean you are the one to get it because you don't like where you currently are. Well they will be in it if it happens so get it up ye. Tiger Shaw and Paisleybear1872 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, Frank Harrison said: Well they will be in it if it happens so get it up ye. Get it up me? Is that your best effort. I couldn't give a fuck if they get to stand on top of the Copland. I just want fairness. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,548 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 minute ago, bigsasasfloopyhair said: Get it up me? Is that your best effort. I couldn't give a fuck if they get to stand on top of the Copland. I just want fairness. It's fair that the one's actively pursuing this are allowed a spot in it if it happens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_4 34,466 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Frank Harrison said: It's fair that the one's actively pursuing this are allowed a spot in it if it happens. What happens if the UBs expand year on year? Does their section in CF expand? Do others get pushed out? You open up a can of worms if UBs get precedence over everyone else in the stand. Bigsasasfloppyhair 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,548 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: What happens if the UBs expand year on year? Does their section in CF expand? Do others get pushed out? You open up a can of worms if UBs get precedence over everyone else in the stand. They probably have about 50 members, the Copland Front holds 3/4k, not something that will be a problem. graeme_4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sket 13,610 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 48 minutes ago, With Heart and Hand said: Whoever is responsible can fire the Whifflet Loyal on there. RFC55, PRW. and bombaybadboy08 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Heart and Hand 8,949 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, graeme_4 said: What happens if the UBs expand year on year? Does their section in CF expand? Do others get pushed out? You open up a can of worms if UBs get precedence over everyone else in the stand. They've been trying to expand for a while I believe I severely doubt anyone who moved into the standing section would later be moved again to accommodate the UBs There are many groups pishing for this, at least 70 RSCs. The Union Bears have taken the initiative to start the campaign so of course their members should be in with a shout I've seen nothing to suggest the UBs want to be "in charge" of the section. Of course it wouldn't be fair if UBs got to pick and choose who gets in but that is not what's happening If this goes thru the Club should make room for every ST holders who signs up for it, doubt that will happen but I also doubt it will just be UBs. If any other group had put the time and effort in then they'd be leading the campaign but the UB have put themselves forward when others didn't I reckon you could have a section with 5000 standing easily but that's unlikely. Some will miss out and some will be lucky Some of the reactions in this thread are similar to the reaction when we get the tims in a final, folk complaining they are hard done by feeling sorry for themselves when nothing's even happening yet graeme_4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsasasfloppyhair 13,310 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 21 minutes ago, Frank Harrison said: It's fair that the one's actively pursuing this are allowed a spot in it if it happens. So if I start the ball rolling to get alcohol sold in stadiums and it gets passed then I get to have first pint every game. Its ma baw mentality. My idea so I'm first in. Look at that list of supporters clubs alone. Has to an open offer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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