Mad Joe Once Again

[minstral 5,375]

 Neil and Rhod's Rangers haters tour - from Jhoe the Bhigot:

Jhoe met Neil Doncaster and Rod McKenzie on Monday evening...............

I and Association President John Andrews met with Neil Doncaster and Rod McKenzie on Monday night. The reason for the meeting which incidentally was at the request of Mr Doncaster, was for them to explain their position with regards to the Lord Nimmo Smith (LNS) Inquiry.

From the outset they both made it clear that they thought that the SPL did everything by the book and that they had no further part to play in accordance with the advice they got from a Senior Counsel.

They also stated that they, the SPFL, were happy to have an Independent Review of Scottish Football as stated about three weeks ago after they elected their new Board. The problem with that is, no Independent Review is worth having unless it also agreed by the SFA, and so far Mr Regan and his cronies have not agreed to a Review.

Mr Doncaster made it very clear that the decision taken by LNS cannot be revisited, the decision to fine Sevco £250,000 is final. Mr McKenzie stressed that all the information held by the SPL was put before LNS, which included the proof of about 51 side letters. But what they cannot answer is, did the SFA act honestly with regards to LNS.

Mr Doncaster also agreed with us that the Five Way Agreement (FWA) was a barrier to Title stripping. That is the FWA that no-one outside if the signatories has actually seen. McKenzie and Doncaster actually admitted that in one of the early drafts of the agreement Title Stripping was one of the avenues that could be used as punishment to Sevco, not surprisingly Green, and apparently more so McCoist strongly opposed that route, so that clause was taken out.

That’s akin to a High Court Judge telling a convicted criminal that he could face twenty years in jail and the criminal saying I’m not having that. So the Judge says, well ok what about a fine of £250? That will be fine (excuse the pun) your honour.

You have to wonder, if the FWA was good for Scottish Football as a whole, why has it not been made public? According to McKenzie the five signatories would have to agree to that, and he said that wouldn’t happen, but he never told us just exactly who would be opposed to going public, I think they would all oppose it to protect themselves.

Interestingly the SPFL Board backed the call for an Independent Review as proposed by Peter Lawwell at Celtic Football Club, but not one club came out publically and supported Peter Lawwell before the Board went public, which was about three weeks after Peter’s statement.

McKenzie said that club chairmen were backing Celtic, but not in public. I think that proves the point the Bullying and Intimidation by the Sevco Support is actually working, I also think the comments from Ann Budge and Stewart Milne prove that too.

So where do we go from here? Well we’re not beaten yet. We have to force the SFA to back the Independent Review. The only way that can be done is by supporters putting pressure on their own clubs to call for it.

Doncaster claims that the SPFL do not have the power within their rules to strip titles, but the SFA do have that power. So honest supporters throughout the whole of Scottish Football must stand up to the Bullies and Intimidators and force action from your own club’s. This is not a Celtic v Rangers issue, this is Honest and Integrity v Bullies and Intimidators issue. Football has to win, but it can only win if the honest decent supporters unite to make it happen.

[BenLui 40]

4 minutes ago, minstral said:

This is not a Celtic v Rangers issue, this is Honest and Integrity v Bullies and Intimidators issue

Classic sentence, fell of ma seat in stitches.

J** life`s to short, go and get a job to support you family and don`t let the bullying intimidating Gers ruin whats left of your miserable life, prick.

[BloodRunsBlue 1,303]

Good to know that this sobbing mess "Jhoe" is having his life ruined by a brand new club called Sevco, whe he thinks should be stripped of their history. 

Fenians and irony are like catholics and soap.

[Siam69 26,864]

Get it up yee, you mad oul bastard!

A call to arms, no less

Let them get on with it, we'll laugh at them all the more, nothing's going to come off it, as Milne, Budge and saner mortals know.

Oh and cheers Ally, I have no doubt Green wouldn't have gave a fuck about the titles, as he didn't give a fuck for anything except his pocket.

 

[markem 7,251]

Honest and integrity. 

Fuck sake, that is priceless.  

Where does covering up child abuse fit into those headings Joe ya fucking sanctimonius lying bastard. 

[magic8ball 27,901]

18 minutes ago, markem said:

Honest and integrity. 

Fuck sake, that is priceless.  

Where does covering up child abuse fit into those headings Joe ya fucking sanctimonius lying bastard. 

unless they admit to themselves it happened they won't accept it happened ,it's just another anti Catholic conspiracy 

[cushynumber 25,178]

 

Much that passes as idealism is disguised hatred....

 

Bertrand Russell
 

[eejay the dj 31,964]

2 hours ago, minstral said:

 Neil and Rhod's Rangers haters tour - from Jhoe the Bhigot:

Jhoe met Neil Doncaster and Rod McKenzie on Monday evening...............

I and Association President John Andrews met with Neil Doncaster and Rod McKenzie on Monday night. The reason for the meeting which incidentally was at the request of Mr Doncaster, was for them to explain their position with regards to the Lord Nimmo Smith (LNS) Inquiry.

From the outset they both made it clear that they thought that the SPL did everything by the book and that they had no further part to play in accordance with the advice they got from a Senior Counsel.

They also stated that they, the SPFL, were happy to have an Independent Review of Scottish Football as stated about three weeks ago after they elected their new Board. The problem with that is, no Independent Review is worth having unless it also agreed by the SFA, and so far Mr Regan and his cronies have not agreed to a Review.

Mr Doncaster made it very clear that the decision taken by LNS cannot be revisited, the decision to fine Sevco £250,000 is final. Mr McKenzie stressed that all the information held by the SPL was put before LNS, which included the proof of about 51 side letters. But what they cannot answer is, did the SFA act honestly with regards to LNS.

Mr Doncaster also agreed with us that the Five Way Agreement (FWA) was a barrier to Title stripping. That is the FWA that no-one outside if the signatories has actually seen. McKenzie and Doncaster actually admitted that in one of the early drafts of the agreement Title Stripping was one of the avenues that could be used as punishment to Sevco, not surprisingly Green, and apparently more so McCoist strongly opposed that route, so that clause was taken out.

That’s akin to a High Court Judge telling a convicted criminal that he could face twenty years in jail and the criminal saying I’m not having that. So the Judge says, well ok what about a fine of £250? That will be fine (excuse the pun) your honour.

You have to wonder, if the FWA was good for Scottish Football as a whole, why has it not been made public? According to McKenzie the five signatories would have to agree to that, and he said that wouldn’t happen, but he never told us just exactly who would be opposed to going public, I think they would all oppose it to protect themselves.

Interestingly the SPFL Board backed the call for an Independent Review as proposed by Peter Lawwell at Celtic Football Club, but not one club came out publically and supported Peter Lawwell before the Board went public, which was about three weeks after Peter’s statement.

McKenzie said that club chairmen were backing Celtic, but not in public. I think that proves the point the Bullying and Intimidation by the Sevco Support is actually working, I also think the comments from Ann Budge and Stewart Milne prove that too.

So where do we go from here? Well we’re not beaten yet. We have to force the SFA to back the Independent Review. The only way that can be done is by supporters putting pressure on their own clubs to call for it.

Doncaster claims that the SPFL do not have the power within their rules to strip titles, but the SFA do have that power. So honest supporters throughout the whole of Scottish Football must stand up to the Bullies and Intimidators and force action from your own club’s. This is not a Celtic v Rangers issue, this is Honest and Integrity v Bullies and Intimidators issue. Football has to win, but it can only win if the honest decent supporters unite to make it happen.

This guy Doncaster is an absolute bastard   In my opinion .I think the Regan is not far behind 

"It's not a Rangers ,Beggars thing " ???

[Blue Nosed Babe 20,549]

If I recall correctly, Lord Nimmo Smith was very critical of Mackenzie.

[tam57 698]

I like the line "football has to win" when they are trying to take our titles that we won playing Football.

[cushynumber 25,178]

27 minutes ago, tam57 said:

I like the line "football has to win" when they are trying to take our titles that we won playing Football.

theres actually so much irony in the entire piece, its difficult to pick out any one that stands out

[LOL153 No Surrender!!! 1,810]

I have said before that I'm glad I joined this forum and have found out so much about these sleekit bigoted taig cunts. I honestly don't know who some of them were or and still don't care.

But what makes me happy that these people are fascinated by us, as in Rangers. It's laughable but a bit demented on there part. Is it because we are still here as a Team a Club and a Support that has not gone away. It's like being stalked after dumping some bird and they just can't get over you. ?

I love it.?

[Gazza2258 478]

"So where do we go from here? Well we’re not beaten yet. We have to force the SFA to back the Independent Review. The only way that can be done is by supporters putting pressure on their own clubs to call for it."

The independent review mentioned a few weeks ago was not a review to punish on hindsight, but a review to ensure similar scenarios don't happen in future, and tighten up various rules that the authorities rely on at the moment.  So, what he wants in his last paragraph, is fuck all to do with his penultimate paragraph.

[cushynumber 25,178]

6 minutes ago, Gazza2258 said:

"So where do we go from here? Well we’re not beaten yet. We have to force the SFA to back the Independent Review. The only way that can be done is by supporters putting pressure on their own clubs to call for it."

The independent review mentioned a few weeks ago was not a review to punish on hindsight, but a review to ensure similar scenarios don't happen in future, and tighten up various rules that the authorities rely on at the moment.  So, what he wants in his last paragraph, is fuck all to do with his penultimate paragraph.

correct. Its an independent review into their internal process - not the actual decision

[Gazza2258 478]

2 minutes ago, cushynumber said:

correct. Its an independent review into their internal process - not the actual decision

I get a little bit of a warm feeling, thinking that 'he' thinks a review will sort it all out 

[William McBeath 2,154]

6 hours ago, cushynumber said:

 

Much that passes as idealism is disguised hatred....

 

Bertrand Russell
 

and a love of power'. 

No doubt these cunts want to rule everything. Russell's cooperation won't be saving the day here either because these fucks have went to far over the years. 

Got to laugh at this bit 

That’s akin to a High Court Judge telling a convicted criminal that he could face twenty years in jail and the criminal saying I’m not having that. So the Judge says, well ok what about a fine of £250? That will be fine (excuse the pun) your honour.

The really do try hard to believe a crime has been committed. Demented fools would have to jail their own owner if that was the case. No doubt this shite will hit the papers while Panama Desmond doesn't.

Who the fuck is Joe by the way and where is this from, anybody? Take it he's another Phil type. Why is the SPFL even speaking to such idiots? The SPFL is showing itself to be little more than a contraption for the furtherance of this deluded shite from the Fenians.

[blueballss 2,969]

Mad twat

 I think that proves the point the Bullying and Intimidation by the Sevco Support is actually working, ???????????

Sunday, 21 November 2010

 

Fixtures in Scotland face possible postponement next weekend after Category One referees voted to strike.

Scottish match officials are upset with the avalanche of flak that has come their way this season.

BBC Scotland has learned that officials are concerned that their integrity is constantly being questioned by some clubs and individuals.

And there are increasing fears among referees over personal safety as a result of public criticism.

The decision to take strike action was reached at a referees' union meeting held on Sunday afternoon, with unanimous backing.

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There are six Scottish Premier League games scheduled for next weekend. There is also a full card in the Scottish Football League.

The ALBA Challenge Cup final between Queen of the South and Ross County at McDiarmid Park is under threat, as are any Scottish Cup replays.

"Referees are at the end of their tether, and it's not just how it's impacting on them but it's the impact it's all having on their families and business lives," former referee Kenny Clark told BBC Scotland.

"Businesses in which referees are employed are being targeted by fans sending hate emails to employers saying things like, 'why are you employing this guy?'"

Celtic have voiced concerns about refereeing standards this season and last and BBC Scotland has also learned that the Glasgow club would welcome the strike.

It is understood Celtic hope that it could lead to a wider independent investigation and want Uefa to intervene in what they think is a refereeing crisis.

On Thursday, Celtic chairman John Reid called for the resignation of referee Dougie McDonald, saying "his position is completely untenable" after he was warned by the Scottish Football Association for lying about his reasons for overturning a penalty award.

In the wake of McDonald's admission of deception, SFA chief executive Stewart Regan has promised an overhaul of how referees are disciplined.

Celtic manager Neil Lennon was critical of the McDonald episode and has since questioned refereeing decisions after defeats to Rangers and Hearts.

And Celtic striker Gary Hooper caused a storm when he said the thought referees "want" to give decisions against his team because they are one of the world's big clubs.

Politicians have also been getting in on the act, with SNP sport spokesman Pete Wishart calling for referees to be forced to declare which team they support.

Clark is in no doubt that it is the pressure from Celtic that has led to the strike action.

"John Reid put the tin lid on it in terms of the meeting today," he added. "His comments have toppled the table over.

"I think what the referees are trying to do is put down a marker and saying to clubs, 'we can't continue like this or we'll end up with no referees!'

"It's only a matter of time before a referee or a member of his family is physically attacked because of how it's being whipped up. Clubs are effectively encouraging it up by what they're doing."

[blueballss 2,969]

Just now, blueballss said:

Mad twat

 I think that proves the point the Bullying and Intimidation by the Sevco Support is actually working, ???????????

Sunday, 21 November 2010

 

Fixtures in Scotland face possible postponement next weekend after Category One referees voted to strike.

Scottish match officials are upset with the avalanche of flak that has come their way this season.

BBC Scotland has learned that officials are concerned that their integrity is constantly being questioned by some clubs and individuals.

And there are increasing fears among referees over personal safety as a result of public criticism.

The decision to take strike action was reached at a referees' union meeting held on Sunday afternoon, with unanimous backing.

MY SPORT: DEBATE

Give your reaction to this story

There are six Scottish Premier League games scheduled for next weekend. There is also a full card in the Scottish Football League.

The ALBA Challenge Cup final between Queen of the South and Ross County at McDiarmid Park is under threat, as are any Scottish Cup replays.

"Referees are at the end of their tether, and it's not just how it's impacting on them but it's the impact it's all having on their families and business lives," former referee Kenny Clark told BBC Scotland.

"Businesses in which referees are employed are being targeted by fans sending hate emails to employers saying things like, 'why are you employing this guy?'"

Celtic have voiced concerns about refereeing standards this season and last and BBC Scotland has also learned that the Glasgow club would welcome the strike.

It is understood Celtic hope that it could lead to a wider independent investigation and want Uefa to intervene in what they think is a refereeing crisis.

On Thursday, Celtic chairman John Reid called for the resignation of referee Dougie McDonald, saying "his position is completely untenable" after he was warned by the Scottish Football Association for lying about his reasons for overturning a penalty award.

In the wake of McDonald's admission of deception, SFA chief executive Stewart Regan has promised an overhaul of how referees are disciplined.

Celtic manager Neil Lennon was critical of the McDonald episode and has since questioned refereeing decisions after defeats to Rangers and Hearts.

And Celtic striker Gary Hooper caused a storm when he said the thought referees "want" to give decisions against his team because they are one of the world's big clubs.

Politicians have also been getting in on the act, with SNP sport spokesman Pete Wishart calling for referees to be forced to declare which team they support.

Clark is in no doubt that it is the pressure from Celtic that has led to the strike action.

"John Reid put the tin lid on it in terms of the meeting today," he added. "His comments have toppled the table over.

"I think what the referees are trying to do is put down a marker and saying to clubs, 'we can't continue like this or we'll end up with no referees!'

"It's only a matter of time before a referee or a member of his family is physically attacked because of how it's being whipped up. Clubs are effectively encouraging it up by what they're doing."

feckin deluded

[Dickie1963 2,352]

It seems to me that the SPFL are coaching a man with a caution for a Sectarian offence how to strip titles. 

I am not convinced this isn't a wind up. 

[Theulstervolunteer 1,859]

Hope the fenian cunt eventually has a mental brake down then  dies of aids tbh... that is all.

[Dickie1963 2,352]

How could SFA strip titles won under  SPL 

[Amac9 2,060]

Thought this was a Joe Garner thread.

[Thewhitesettler 2,711]

You'd think with your team strolling through Scottish football just now, that the taigs would be happy? But NO!!

They won't be happy until they get awarded titles stripped from Rangers. Is that what they really want? They couldn't do it on the pitch, so they want to do it any other way they can.

If the roles were reversed here, I would NEVER accept winning titles in that way. 

They hate us more than they love their own club. There's nothing you can do with people like that, without the use of a gun. I'd be embarrassed if our support acted in that manner. I wonder how they'll take us winning title 55? They'll probably claim that it's either our 1st title, or that it's our 48th, because they've decided not to count the titles they believe we should be stripped of...??

[coopsleftboot 5,512]

21 hours ago, minstral said:

I and Association President John Andrews met with Neil Doncaster and Rod McKenzie on Monday night. The reason for the meeting which incidentally was at the request of Mr Doncaster, was for them to explain their position with regards to the Lord Nimmo Smith (LNS) Inquiry.

I assume this invitation extended to the mhad one has also been extended to our fans group?  Surely?  Or do you have to be a serial whinger to get such an audience?

[mrmojorisin 13,608]

Jhoes ragin