LaudrupsPatrickBoots 13,510 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ibroxholm said: There were some on here who were at the match who thought Jack was guilty of a head butt. I didnt see anyone say the footage showed this (although some questioned whether it showed the complete incident). My old man used to say that if you went to a pub after the match and got talking to fans who were in different parts of the ground, you often wondered if they had actually been at the same game as you. From the club deck, myself and a good few guys around me seen Jack throwing himself forward head first in the melee. Not the wee coming together of heads shown in the video clips between him and Stokes. None of the videos I've seen since then have shown this happening but we can't all have imagined it. I'd say we can count ourselves lucky the ban has been overturned and I'm certain it's just so they can save themselves the hassle of taking retrospective action against Stokes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanzmeanzheinz 4,312 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 28 minutes ago, Lord Lockin said: Ryan Jack did head butt - Ryan Jack should have been suspended - didn't get suspended to save them throwing the book at Stokes for his part in the melee This, rescind it, but the damage is done. What about any player grabbing someone by the throat? Is that ok now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Just now, Deanzmeanzheinz said: This, rescind it, but the damage is done. What about any player grabbing someone by the throat? Is that ok now? Dependent on Strip, Obviously. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,638 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 26 minutes ago, Don54 said: I think it's this muppet Fuckin sad daze if we are gettin goaded by limp wristed cunts like this, he looks like a bbc employee, bit of the social worker look and his arse is probably like the start of Bonanza ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 12 minutes ago, LaudrupsPatrickBoots said: From the club deck, myself and a good few guys around me seen Jack throwing himself forward head first in the melee. Not the wee coming together of heads shown in the video clips between him and Stokes. None of the videos I've seen since then have shown this happening but we can't all have imagined it. I'd say we can count ourselves lucky the ban has been overturned and I'm certain it's just so they can save themselves the hassle of taking retrospective action against Stokes. You must have Binoculars for Eyes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordersbear 1,105 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 28 minutes ago, Lord Lockin said: Ryan Jack did head butt - Ryan Jack should have been suspended - didn't get suspended to save them throwing the book at Stokes for his part in the melee Last cunt I headbutted had a broken nose and two black eyes . I cut my forehead. They two had an Eskimo kiss. Blown out of all proportion. Booking at most for both. Stokes off for two yellows. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibroxholm 2,275 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 minute ago, LaudrupsPatrickBoots said: From the club deck, myself and a good few guys around me seen Jack throwing himself forward head first in the melee. Not the wee coming together of heads shown in the video clips between him and Stokes. None of the videos I've seen since then have shown this happening but we can't all have imagined it. I'd say we can count ourselves lucky the ban has been overturned and I'm certain it's just so they can save themselves the hassle of taking retrospective action against Stokes. I saw it from the main stand and thought there may have been an element of head movement from Jack, not enough for a red card though. I think the available footage shows that he wasn't guilty of a head butt. I'm absolutely certain if there was a head butt from Jack, the tv companies would have been only keen to highlight it. The fact they haven't, confirms the issue imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushynumber 25,178 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Im old dad always taught me , if your going to nut someone, make it a belter that he doesn't get up from. this shite is kiddy oany pish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smile 26,600 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, Ibroxholm said: I saw it from the main stand and thought there may have been an element of head movement from Jack, not enough for a red card though. I think the available footage shows that he wasn't guilty of a head butt. I'm absolutely certain if there was a head butt from Jack, the tv companies would have been only keen to highlight it. The fact they haven't, confirms the issue imo. I think the Head Movement was to release the grip from the stokes Hand, Probably Stokes pulling him towards him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingtom80 166 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 it was never a red card,you lot must have been on the deck of a boat on the clyde. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellshill_Bear 1,105 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 hour ago, there'sonlyoneamoruso said: Supposedly a journalist among other things. https://mobile.twitter.com/NeilSargent86?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author Daily record, does that surprise anyone? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 3,909 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, bordersbear said: Last cunt I headbutted had a broken nose and two black eyes . I cut my forehead. They two had an Eskimo kiss. Blown out of all proportion. Booking at most for both. Stokes off for two yellows. Doesn't matter how much contact there is a head butts a sending off - oh and a yellow for Stokes he should have been off for his assault on Tav Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 3,909 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 15 minutes ago, Deanzmeanzheinz said: This, rescind it, but the damage is done. What about any player grabbing someone by the throat? Is that ok now? no it's no ok Stokes should have been off for his assault on Tav Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegambler 61 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lord Lockin said: Doesn't matter how much contact there is a head butts a sending off - oh and a yellow for Stokes he should have been off for his assault on Tav You're missing the point, which is that he is a hard bastard. Hard as nails. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 3,909 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, thegambler said: You're missing the point, which is that he is a hard bastard. Hard as nails. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don54 25,517 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 22 minutes ago, BLUEDIGNITY said: Fuckin sad daze if we are gettin goaded by limp wristed cunts like this, he looks like a bbc employee, bit of the social worker look and his arse is probably like the start of Bonanza ! says this about himself, : Journalist, researcher, writer, historian, archivist. I've worked for the BBC and STV, although I represent neither. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordersbear 1,105 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, Lord Lockin said: Doesn't matter how much contact there is a head butts a sending off - oh and a yellow for Stokes he should have been off for his assault on Tav He was only booked for that , wrongly by the way, so he should have had a second. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordersbear 1,105 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 22 minutes ago, thegambler said: You're missing the point, which is that he is a hard bastard. Hard as nails. Is that aimed at me? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordersbear 1,105 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 36 minutes ago, cushynumber said: Im old dad always taught me , if your going to nut someone, make it a belter that he doesn't get up from. this shite is kiddy oany pish. My dad told me get your retaliation in first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,638 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 17 minutes ago, Don54 said: says this about himself, : Journalist, researcher, writer, historian, archivist. I've worked for the BBC and STV, although I represent neither. Probably worked for them in his capacity of rent bhoy ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilberforce1 605 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 47 minutes ago, BLUEDIGNITY said: Fuckin sad daze if we are gettin goaded by limp wristed cunts like this, he looks like a bbc employee, bit of the social worker look and his arse is probably like the start of Bonanza ! 4 4 One for the young uns! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lockin 3,909 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 18 minutes ago, bordersbear said: He was only booked for that , wrongly by the way, so he should have had a second. for fuck sake read my answer Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordersbear 1,105 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Lord Lockin said: for fuck sake read my answer I did and agree he should have been off for tav assault,but he wasn't so he should have gone for a second yellow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxterboy 476 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 On 8/17/2017 at 11:10 AM, Courtyard Bear said: Ive still to see this absolutely refutable video evidence that shows Jack make contact with that cunts head. ffs look at the videos again! You will clearly see evidence that shows Jack making contact with that cunt's head when stokes sticks the head on Jack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theiconicman 2,978 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Heads coming together isn't a red card, plenty of players square up to each other. It's the forward movement while heads are touching that warrants the red card. Plenty of evidence of heads together, but none of Jack pushing forward Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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