sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I'm proud of my upbringing which was a very much a Scottish Protestant one and everything that entailed including supporting Rangers and I loved the common values of my upbringing which I shared with my fellow supporters that made the bond of supporting the same football team even stronger. The one thing recently that saddens me is that I think because of the rise of Scottish nationalism the majority of fans see ourselves only as a British club and neglected the Scottish identity (which was always as strong as the British identity of the club). I'd like to see us claiming the St Andrews flag back from the Nationalists and see it flying proudly alongside the Union flags,the Red Hands and any other flag of any country where supporters come from. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo 32,526 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 53 minutes ago, Prso's headband said: Unfortunately it is a bit of a dying breed. For me though it's a major part of following Rangers. You meet those who have the same political views, who sing the same songs and understand the history of them. These days those songs are also a dying breed due to the social media generation. It's a real shame but one or two guys have said to me they've heard a couple of people around them saying things like aye fuck the queen in a conversation. Until we as a fanbase pull in the same direction nothing from top to bottom will change, were getting further divided as theyears go on Pulling in the same direction doesn't mean being mindless sheep, though. You're never going to get 100s of thousands of people following a football club having the same politics. That would just be weird. Pulling in the same direction means doing your best for the club regardless of politics. My thoughts on the Queen, whatever they may be, have no bearing on my ability to pull in the right direction for the club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumbGER 24,518 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 20 minutes ago, sandyinroyalblue said: I'm proud of my upbringing which was a very much a Scottish Protestant one and everything that entailed including supporting Rangers and I loved the common values of my upbringing which I shared with my fellow supporters that made the bond of supporting the same football team even stronger. The one thing recently that saddens me is that I think because of the rise of Scottish nationalism the majority of fans see ourselves only as a British club and neglected the Scottish identity (which was always as strong as the British identity of the club). I'd like to see us claiming the St Andrews flag back from the Nationalists and see it flying proudly alongside the Union flags,the Red Hands and any other flag of any country where supporters come from. Good post Modern Scottish nationalism has a lot to answer for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TicketyBoo72 8 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I think it's been massively important....feels sometimes that the cultural element is what's united us in these pretty pish times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Artagnan 13,319 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 http://www.therangersstandard.co.uk/index.php/articles/fan-culture/130-where-is-our-protestant-identity http://www.therangersstandard.co.uk/index.php/articles/RFC-politics/149-a-protestant-club-in-21st-century-scotland http://www.therangersstandard.co.uk/index.php/articles/fan-culture/128-who-do-we-think-we-are Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMB 14,167 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Can you believe in the theory of evolution and still be a staunch Rangers man? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyinroyalblue 16,478 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: Can you believe in the theory of evolution and still be a staunch Rangers man? Aye but are you a Protestant atheist or a Catholic atheist? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Specky Forum Organiser 64,510 Posted August 21, 2017 Author Share Posted August 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: Can you believe in the theory of evolution and still be a staunch Rangers man? You can't be murdering orphans like you did and be a staunch Rangers man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Artagnan 13,319 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, THE_MIGHTY_BEARS said: Can you believe in the theory of evolution and still be a staunch Rangers man? Micro or Macro evolution ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverAndEver 71,450 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 29 minutes ago, Frank Harrison said: You can't be murdering orphans like you did and be a staunch Rangers man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
With Heart and Hand 8,949 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I don't believe in indoctrinating children into any religion, or any political or belief system I've always said that as long as she's happy I don't care if my Daughter grows up to be one religion or another, one orientation or another, or supports one political party or another But I've always felt it's my right to raise my Daughter to support the Club I love so in that sense Rangers means more than all that other stuff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEDIGNITY 33,647 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 It's only being a British Scottish Protestant institution that's kept us open! End of! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman36 3,455 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 21 minutes ago, With Heart and Hand said: I don't believe in indoctrinating children into any religion, or any political or belief system I've always said that as long as she's happy I don't care if my Daughter grows up to be one religion or another, one orientation or another, or supports one political party or another But I've always felt it's my right to raise my Daughter to support the Club I love so in that sense Rangers means more than all that other stuff Wonderfully tortured philosophy there. I would say reading these kinds of the threads the psyche of the majority of supporters is that of a confused teenager. I don't mean that in a bad way, it's obvious as an entity we're going through something of a transition. Nothing wrong with that. Just amusing some of the "staunch about being staunch" kind of attitudes folk are proud of on here. Doesn't stand up to even the most basic scrutiny. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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